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Posted by Zild on Dec-17-2008 03:19:

This thread makes me want to go clean my springer m1911a1.


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Dec-17-2008 03:28:

quote:
Originally posted by Krypton
So the state cannot use abuse its power because the people are armed and therefore, have power themselves to counter tyranny.


yeah man, your gangbangers selling dope on street corners are preserving your liberties as the founding fathers intended.

its not your constitution, congress, the president or the supreme court. its randoms in walmart buying their guns that protect you all from the activities of the state. lol.


Posted by Krypton on Dec-17-2008 03:36:

quote:
Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
yeah man, your gangbangers selling dope on street corners are preserving your liberties as the founding fathers intended.

its not your constitution, congress, the president or the supreme court. its randoms in walmart buying their guns that protect you all from the activities of the state. lol.


The gang bangers are going to be armed one way or the other. Do you actually trust a government with a monopoly on power? Because I sure don't. Every government which has ever existed has had some degree of corruption. In case Bush decided to waive Habeus Corpus, he'd have a nice surprise waiting for him.


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Dec-17-2008 03:44:

quote:
Originally posted by Krypton
The gang bangers are going to be armed one way or the other. Do you actually trust a government with a monopoly on power? Because I sure don't. Every government which has ever existed has had some degree of corruption. In case Bush decided to waive Habeus Corpus, he'd have a nice surprise waiting for him.


take another hit from the crack pipe, son.


Posted by Lira on Dec-17-2008 03:53:

quote:
Originally posted by Krypton
I don't trust the state to have a monopoly on power. That's what this country was founded on. Power is shared by the people and the state. So the state cannot use abuse its power because the people are armed and therefore, have power themselves to counter tyranny.

Maybe it's because I'm a foreigner, but this sounds completely absurd


Posted by Krypton on Dec-17-2008 03:54:

quote:
Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
take another hit from the crack pipe, son.


pass it b1tch


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Dec-17-2008 03:54:

quote:
Originally posted by Lira
Maybe it's because I'm a foreigner, but this sounds completely absurd


it is, and only americans don't realise it.


Posted by Krypton on Dec-17-2008 03:56:

quote:
Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
it is, and only americans don't realise it.


That's why we're awesomer than joo


Posted by UWM on Dec-17-2008 04:09:

quote:
Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
it is, and only americans don't realise it.


Hooray, generalisations!


See what I did there? I deonstrated my worldliness by using the proper English spelling. Some of us actually aren't retarded cavemen. Yahtzee!


Posted by denys envy on Dec-17-2008 04:11:

wait wait. the real story here is that this is the first thread in a long time that slylee has posted in without the mention of her boyfriend. that deserves some plaudit i think.


Posted by Project-K on Dec-17-2008 04:13:

Give it time, we're still on page 1.


Posted by l�cid on Dec-17-2008 04:14:

quote:
Originally posted by UWM
deonstrated... proper English spelling

inb4theedit.


Posted by Zild on Dec-17-2008 04:14:

quote:
Originally posted by denys envy
wait wait. the real story here is that this is the first thread in a long time that slylee has posted in without the mention of her boyfriend. that deserves some plaudit i think.


mother******! now she is going to start saying my man before every sentence again...


Posted by Renzo on Dec-17-2008 04:14:

Not cool, lucid. You're supposed to be Bobby's friend. Bitch.


Posted by Project-K on Dec-17-2008 04:15:

No no, that's how the english spell demonstrated.


Posted by denys envy on Dec-17-2008 04:15:

quote:
Originally posted by Zild
mother******! now she is going to start saying my man before every sentence again...


fuck you're right. i should've just kept quiet.


Posted by denys envy on Dec-17-2008 04:16:

quote:
Originally posted by Renzo
Not cool, lucid. You're supposed to be Bobby's friend. Bitch.


can robots be friends?


Posted by Lira on Dec-17-2008 04:17:

quote:
Originally posted by UWM
Hooray, generalisations!


See what I did there? I deonstrated my worldliness by using the proper English spelling. Some of us actually aren't retarded cavemen. Yahtzee!



Both at the intended and the unintended spellings


Posted by Halcyon+On+On on Dec-17-2008 04:17:

quote:
Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
but how does this tie-in with your general argument concerning advanced weapons? i would suggest that such issues have been a staple of armed conflict since the beginning of time, how does a gun in this instance, change the nature of warfare as to be notable? (asides from where you identified that now it is possible for children to go to war.)

do these new arms make armies behave any differently? i wouldn't have thought so.

the other point to note is that soldiers dont tend to kill people during peace time. ie how many civilians in the US have been shot and killed by your army? clearly a civilian's capacity to use weapons in their neighbourhood is qualitatively different from a soldier in occupied territory.


Did you ever happen to read Remarque's All Quiet On The Western Front? Do you remember the part where they are sitting in the trenches at night, shooting at the dim flickering of cigarettes in the distance as though it were some sort of game?

They were shooting at lights because it was easier than shooting at people - because it was far easier to kill in this way since there was practically no humanity involved.

"Peace time" is the declaration of nations and documents, not battlefields.


Posted by Frenchie on Dec-17-2008 04:17:

robots are a crack heads best friend.


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Dec-17-2008 04:18:

quote:
Originally posted by UWM
Hooray, generalisations!


See what I did there? I deonstrated my worldliness by using the proper English spelling. Some of us actually aren't retarded cavemen. Yahtzee!


that's not a generalisation. most of the people that think that a 'well-regulated militia' (lol) has some role against tyranny, are *shock horror* citizens of the united states of america.

now, i obviously didn't mean that this is what all americans thought, or even most. just that those that DO subscribe to this kind of nonsense, tend to be NRA members with confederate flags in their front yard and barely enough teeth together to form a smile.

now, that's a generalisation.


Posted by Fpcookie on Dec-17-2008 04:18:

quote:
Originally posted by Krypton
I don't trust the state to have a monopoly on power. That's what this country was founded on. Power is shared by the people and the state. So the state cannot use abuse its power because the people are armed and therefore, have power themselves to counter tyranny.


fuck, you are so stupid.


Posted by denys envy on Dec-17-2008 04:18:

quote:
Originally posted by Frenchie
robots are a crack heads best friend.


word is bond.


Posted by Alex on Dec-17-2008 04:18:

I always liked the other statement.

Guns don't kill people, people kill guns.


Posted by l�cid on Dec-17-2008 04:19:

quote:
Originally posted by Frenchie
robots are a crack heads best friend.

this.


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