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Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov They wouldn't.

But that doesn't stop from many believing that they are active on US soil. Why?

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Originally posted by guerra-monstru But that doesn't stop from many believing that they are active on US soil. Why?

Some people watch too many movies I guess - and others just read bad sources.

I'm as big a critic of this current administration as you're likely to find, but it's important to be realistic with accusations - otherwise credibility is ruined.

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Originally posted by guerra-monstru But that doesn't stop from many believing that they are active on US soil. Why?

Why do you assume only the CIA would assassinate this target?

It could be any organization or a non-organization linked or unlinked with the white house.

Why are you nitpicking this point?

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Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov Some people watch too many movies I guess - and others just read bad sources. I'm as big a critic of this current administration as you're likely to find, but it's important to be realistic with accusations - otherwise credibility is ruined.

Credibility is almost always an illusion.

Go with your gut.

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Originally posted by DJ Shibby Credibility is almost always an illusion. Go with your gut.

Yeah, worked for Bush.

i want to know why the republicans have such a hold over what the CIA does or does not do? like, how does it work exactly? a GOP kingpin gets on the phone and calls the head of the CIA black ops commander and asks him to do a favour for an old friend?

it boggles my mind which ideas you people entertain with absolutely nothing approaching evidence to get you started.

and lol @ northwoods. nothing like an operation that wasn't carried out as evidence for other attacks. ahhh, the gotta love the logic of woo.

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Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov Yeah, worked for Bush.

Going with your gut won't help if it's full of shit.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN i want to know why the republicans have such a hold over what the CIA does or does not do? like, how does it work exactly? a GOP kingpin gets on the phone and calls the head of the CIA black ops commander and asks him to do a favour for an old friend? it boggles my mind which ideas you people entertain with absolutely nothing approaching evidence to get you started. and lol @ northwoods. nothing like an operation that wasn't carried out as evidence for other attacks. ahhh, the gotta love the logic of woo.

I think mentioning the CIA was a mistake and more of a blanket idea than a physical fact.

Most of the governmental groups who perform assassinations are most likely extremely rogue and solitary, to minimize their link. Sleeper cells, etc.

I was mainly trying to point out that SOMEONE very well may have assassinated this guy conveniently. I don't pretend to know who, but I will be wary of the record.

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Originally posted by DJ Shibby Going with your gut won't help if it's full of shit.

LOL, indeed .

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Originally posted by DJ Shibby I think mentioning the CIA was a mistake and more of a blanket idea than a physical fact. Most of the governmental groups who perform assassinations are most likely extremely rogue and solitary, to minimize their link. Sleeper cells, etc. I was mainly trying to point out that SOMEONE very well may have assassinated this guy conveniently. I don't pretend to know who, but I will be wary of the record.

yes, i find that much more plausible. but again, im still wondering why it must be "the government", rather than individuals currently unknown? like, why would an intelligence agency give two shits about a GOP IT guy that may or may not have rigged vote machines? where's my incentive to go along with something like an assassination?

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN yes, i find that much more plausible. but again, im still wondering why it must be "the government", rather than individuals currently unknown? like, why would an intelligence agency give two shits about a GOP IT guy that may or may not have rigged vote machines? where's my incentive to go along with something like an assassination?

The incentive for me was just the context of the situation.

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Originally posted by DJ Shibby I think mentioning the CIA was a mistake and more of a blanket idea than a physical fact. Most of the governmental groups who perform assassinations are most likely extremely rogue and solitary, to minimize their link. Sleeper cells, etc. I was mainly trying to point out that SOMEONE very well may have assassinated this guy conveniently. I don't pretend to know who, but I will be wary of the record.

oh comeone do you even believe all what you type? What does the US government have? Assassins working by themselves and that no one really knows of their existence/identities but like three senior generals of homeland security?

He did it :

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Originally posted by guerra-monstru oh comeone do you even believe all what you type? What does the US government have? Assassins working by themselves and that no one really knows of their existence/identities but like three senior generals of homeland security?

What exactly is it you think I believe?

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Originally posted by DJ Shibby What exactly is it you think I believe?

One can never be sure since you don't ever say anything substantive.

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Originally posted by DJ Shibby What exactly is it you think I believe?

obviously that the US government is one bad mofo. That their assassins are all illumanti using black magic. Isn't that what you believe?

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Originally posted by guerra-monstru obviously that the US government is one bad mofo. That their assassins are all illumanti using black magic. Isn't that what you believe?

Interesting...

You should re-evaluate how you process perceptive information. I'm keeping pretty open-minded about all this, I reported the article, and gave my leanings (which is an opinion...).

Apparently you're entitled to come up with completely bonkers shit like what you just typed here, so I'm not sure what to say to you about serious issues.

peace

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Originally posted by DJ Shibby Interesting... You should re-evaluate how you process perceptive information. I'm keeping pretty open-minded about all this, I reported the article, and gave my leanings (which is an opinion...). Apparently you're entitled to come up with completely bonkers shit like what you just typed here, so I'm not sure what to say to you about serious issues. peace

i dont see how postulating unproven and thoroughly unsupported hypotheses counts as having an "open mind".

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN i dont see how postulating unproven and thoroughly unsupported hypotheses counts as having an "open mind".

"Condemnation w/o investigation is the height of all ignorance"

- Einstein


The CIA's Family Jewels

Agency Violated Charter for 25 Years,
Wiretapped Journalists and Dissidents

http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB222/index.htm

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Originally posted by guerra-monstru But that doesn't stop from many believing that they are active on US soil. Why?

The Church Committee hearings plus 693 pages of records released under the FOIA which prove otherwise? Maybe?

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Originally posted by gallantrybot "Condemnation w/o investigation is the height of all ignorance" - Einstein

"people that create alt accounts after they've been banned are tossers"

-me.

So now wiretapping = murder of former officials.

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Originally posted by gallantrybot i believe everything i read on the internet, as long as it conforms to my idiotic understanding of the world.

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Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov So now wiretapping = murder of former officials.

Do you mean like Vince Foster, whose death was ruled a suicide even though, among other major discrepancies, it was someone else's fingerprints which were found on the gun?

Doesn't the name Fred Hampton ring any bells? The FBI's COINTELPRO was much more than wiretapping as it also took the form of physical violence against political dissidents. That was something the late environmentalist Judi Bari learned the hard way.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN i dont see how postulating unproven and thoroughly unsupported hypotheses counts as having an "open mind".

Meh, I'm probably done with this forum... there's not much left to stick around for.

Maybe I'll pop in from time to time, but I won't be posting any more articles or opinions on articles.

Peace out.

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