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Posted by FunkyCrew on Jan-09-2009 22:31:

quote:
Originally posted by VERTiG0
Damn, beaten



Posted by smuncky on Jan-10-2009 03:36:

quote:
Originally posted by Abercrombie
nothing to see... sux posting private sites no one can see or enter.

I still use pirate bay alot, so if anyone can suggest to me or INVITE me to a site that easily sorts, provides, list top 100s like
PB, I'll appreciate it. gotta have movies, wii, psp, and other stuff. ktxkbye



aJ, SEND ME YOUR EMAIL AND I'LL GIV EU AND INVITE TO TORRENTLEECH.


Posted by devnull on Jan-10-2009 04:53:

quote:
Originally posted by BrownBrown
Forget torrents,rapidshare, etc.
By far your best source for latest releases are the binary Usenet newsgroups.


n00bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb
usenet lol


Posted by devnull on Jan-10-2009 04:59:

quote:
Originally posted by Nick Cenik
The best solution, hands-down, is to buy a Rapidshare premium account and go nuts. Yes, you have to pay for the account but EVERY (and I mean every) scene release--movies, apps, TV, games, etc.-- is ALWAYS posted on rapidshare as soon as the release hits the web. Rapidshare has amazing download speeds: I often get more than 1mb/sec. Furthermore, with a premium account you accumulate rapid points over time which can be used to extend your account for free.

$55.00 cdn for 6 months of premium access is easily worth the money.

Torrents are unreliable: download speeds vary incredibly and fake torrents are widespread. Additionally, using torrents can result in your ISP hassling you about your internet activities.

I definitely recommend Rapidshare--it's #1.

rapidshare, mega, and torrents is crap. kills the scene cuz of shitheads leakin stuff.....grrr


Posted by geroin on Jan-10-2009 05:04:

quote:
Originally posted by devnull
rapidshare, mega, and torrents is crap. kills the scene cuz of shitheads leakin stuff.....grrr


meh i used to be in the scene, waste of time lol
you become king of teh interewbz if you courier shit faster than others.


Posted by Porky on Jan-10-2009 05:29:

if u use public torrent sites like piratebay

PLEASE PLEASE

use Peer Guardian. it blocks 99% malicious IPs (government, RIAA etch)

http://phoenixlabs.org/pg2/

it's like wearing a condom, except you're online.. downloading the m0v135


Posted by DaRoZa on Jan-10-2009 06:25:

quote:
Originally posted by Porky

it's like wearing a condom, except you're online.. downloading the m0v135


but what if it wilts my download speeds...


Posted by VERTiG0 on Jan-10-2009 08:09:

Heh, scrub nublets use torrents


Posted by 8Wonders on Jan-10-2009 08:16:

It's good to know that most TOTA's are fitly pirate whores


Posted by rabbitjoker on Jan-10-2009 09:29:

Buy what you use. Period.


Posted by DigiNut on Jan-10-2009 14:20:

quote:
Originally posted by Porky
use Peer Guardian. it blocks 99% malicious IPs (government, RIAA etch)

That might help keep you away from the honeypots, but your ISP (or their ISP or any other ISP in between) can still inspect your traffic. The only way to avoid that is to use a protocol that's encrypted from end to end.

Also, I can only speculate, but it's logical to assume that ISPs don't care about RS or similar sites as much as torrents because they don't do anywhere near as much damage as torrents. Tracker traffic saturates the upstream part of your bandwidth, which not only is a lot more expensive for your ISP but also hurts your download speeds considerably just by itself.

I'm sure they could throttle that traffic if they wanted to - hell, forget the port, just throttle traffic coming from rapidshare.com - but it's not that important to them because they charge overages anyway, and RS *does* have legitimate uses (it's used all the time to post live sets and other legit material of that nature).


Posted by Porky on Jan-10-2009 15:46:

quote:
Originally posted by DaRoZa
but what if it wilts my download speeds...


doesn't affect my speeds


Posted by Porky on Jan-10-2009 15:52:

quote:
Originally posted by DigiNut
That might help keep you away from the honeypots,
.


The honeypots are the ones doing all the legal action, not the ISPs themselves right?

A naive user is practically guaranteed
to be monitored: we observe that 100% of our peers run into blocklisted
users. In fact, 12% to 17% of all distinct IPs contacted by a peer are blocklisted
ranges. Interestingly, a little caution can have a significant effect: the top five
most prevalent blocklisted IPs contribute to nearly 94% of all blocklisted entities
we ran into. This information can help users to reduce their chances of being
monitored to just about 1%



source


Posted by Nicolas Oliver on Jan-10-2009 16:14:

quote:
Originally posted by devnull
rapidshare, mega, and torrents is crap. kills the scene cuz of shitheads leakin stuff.....grrr



Posted by Nicolas Oliver on Jan-10-2009 16:18:

quote:
Originally posted by DigiNut
Also, I can only speculate, but it's logical to assume that ISPs don't care about RS or similar sites as much as torrents because they don't do anywhere near as much damage as torrents. Tracker traffic saturates the upstream part of your bandwidth, which not only is a lot more expensive for your ISP but also hurts your download speeds considerably just by itself.


My experience suggests that ISPs care more about torrents b/c, unlike w/ file sharing websites, the use of torrents involves the spreading of files since when one downloads via torrents one also uploads to others (the basic way torrents operate). When I used to rely on torrents I would turn off all uploading and set the uploading speed to 0kb/s but I got a letter from my ISP on behalf of Paramount bitching at me for illegally uploading a movie to others.


Posted by geroin on Jan-10-2009 16:30:

quote:
Originally posted by Nick Cenik



epic


Posted by Porky on Jan-11-2009 06:12:

quote:
Originally posted by Nick Cenik
I got a letter from my ISP on behalf of Paramount bitching at me for illegally uploading a movie to others.


peer guardian prevents this.


Posted by Nicolas Oliver on Jan-11-2009 14:31:

quote:
Originally posted by Porky
peer guardian prevents this.


I was using PG when it happened.


Posted by Abercrombie on Jan-11-2009 15:17:

Thanks for the invite Alex!


Would you believe it I didn't know about PG until this thread? Finally installed, better than nothing


Posted by Abercrombie on Jan-11-2009 15:29:

Below is a letter from my ISP to me I got 2 years ago. I dug it up from a previous P2P thread here;
http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...threadid=382307


quote:

Subject: Notice ID: 182-2906647 ESA Foreign Notice
From: [email protected][/email]
Date: Sat, January 20, 2007 4:56 am
To: [email protected]
Priority: Normal


Aurora Cable Internet has received notification of copyright
infringement originating from your computer's IP address, it is our
responsibility to forward this complaint to you. Attached is a copy of
the complaint that has been received.

Please note that receipt or distribution of copyrighted material is a
violation of Aurora Cable Internet's Acceptable Use Policy and the
Xtreme Cable Modem Agreement policy which was signed by you at the time
of the installation. These policies are available for viewing at:
http://aci.on.ca/internet/policies.htm

Regards,

Aurora Cable Internet Technical Support


quote:

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA1

Entertainment Software Association
575 7th Street, NW, Suite 300
Washington, DC 20004 USA

Attention: Intellectual Property Enforcement
Telephone: 202-223-2400
E-mail: [email][email protected]

20 Jan 2007 08:13:40 GMT


ISP: Aurora Cable Internet
ESA Reference Number: 182-290xxxx

Dear Aurora Cable Internet:

The Entertainment Software Association (ESA) is a U.S. trade association that
represents the intellectual property interests of numerous companies that publish
interactive games for video game consoles, personal computers, handheld devices and
the Internet in the United States and in other countries (collectively referred to
as ESA members). ESA is authorized to act on behalf of ESA members whose copyright
and other intellectual property rights it believes to be infringed as described
herein.

ESA is providing this letter of notification to make Aurora Cable Internet aware of
material on its network or system that infringes the exclusive copyright rights of
and is unlawful towards one or more ESA members.

Through the Berne Convention and other international treaties covering intellectual
property rights, ESA believes that its members' rights in such entertainment
software products are entitled to the full protection of the intellectual property
law as well as other relevant laws of your country.

Based on the information at its disposal, ESA has a good faith belief that the IP
address below infringes the rights of one or more ESA members by offering for sale
or download unauthorized copies of game products protected by copyright, or offering
for sale or download material that is the subject of infringing activities. The
copyrighted works that have been infringed include but are not limited to:

Title: Superman Returns
Infringement Source: BitTorrent
Infringement Timestamp: 20 Jan 2007 07:45:57 GMT
Infringement Last Documented: 20 Jan 2007 07:45:57 GMT
Infringer Username:
Infringing Filename: Superman Returns xbox
Infringing Filesize: 931809344
Infringer IP Address: 69.17.185.xxx
Infringer DNS Name: xtreme-26-158.dyn.aci.on.ca
Infringing URL: http://pn5.epac.to:8258/announce



The unauthorized copies of such game product(s) or the material that is the subject
of infringing activities appears on or is made available through the above-listed IP
address. Those items are listed and/or identified thereon by their titles or
variations thereof, game-related listings/references/descriptions, or depictions of
game-related artwork. Such copies, titles, game-related
listings/references/descriptions, depictions, and material that is the subject of
infringing activities, are hereinafter referred to as "Infringing Material."

Accordingly, ESA hereby requests Aurora Cable Internet to immediately do the following:

1. Notify the account holder of the Infringing Material.
2. Remove, or disable access to, the Infringing Material detailed above.
3. Take appropriate action against the account holder under your Abuse Policy/Terms
of Service Agreement, including termination of a repeat offender.

Please inform us whether you will remove or disable access to the Infringing
Material as requested. Aurora Cable Internet or the account holder may contact ESA
at the above-listed contact details, with email preferred. Please include the
above-noted Reference Number in the subject line of all email correspondence.

Thank you for your cooperation and prompt response in this matter.

Sincerely,

Intellectual Property Enforcement
Entertainment Software Association


Posted by DigiNut on Jan-11-2009 17:20:

quote:
Originally posted by Porky
peer guardian prevents this.

Peer Guardian is a black list, and black lists as a whole cannot scale to the size of a P2P network. It's generally accepted among security experts that the concept is a dead end; with rare exceptions, firewalls, ACLs, CAS rules, trusts, and secure protocols are always implemented as white lists.

It is like blocking specific words in the subject or message body to prevent spam; at the beginning, when the instigators were incredibly na�ve and there wasn't a great deal of spam or e-mail period, this approach did work. Once the spammers caught on, though, blacklisting became completely impractical and even the largest distributed blacklists like ORBS quickly became obsolete.

The same is true for Peer Guardian. The tool was effective when the honeypots were essentially a cowboy project, a couple of low-tech jerks working from one of the MPAA offices, but now they're aware of PG's existence and it really isn't that hard for them to register some randomly-assigned Comcast IP and do their dirty work from there. They don't need to rotate these very often - just long enough such that they've changed by the time the community figures it out.

It is possible that PG will prevent you from hitting a honeypot in some cases, just like filtering "Viagra" in your e-mail subject line might eliminate some spam, but it is never going to prevent it completely.


Posted by dEsidEL on Jan-12-2009 01:02:

quote:
Originally posted by Orko
That's basically what I am doing (acanac's work around). They probably cannot see what you are downloading, and if they do try and break it, they are running a huge risk of getting sued. All they do is if they see a large amount of encrypted data, they limit the port automatically, even if they don't know what is being transmitted.

I cannot believe the thread was renamed! Nobody ever takes my suggestions!

For speeds, RS and sites like that are the best bet, because ISP's just cannot limit speeds for HTTP traffic on port 80. They just fuck with every other port known to man.




i think that's the problem I'm having right now with Rogers because when I connect for work, all my packets are obviously encrypted, but I think Rogers is throttling indiscriminately. i also use Skype a lot as well..


Posted by Orko on Jan-12-2009 16:20:

quote:
Originally posted by dEsidEL


i think that's the problem I'm having right now with Rogers because when I connect for work, all my packets are obviously encrypted, but I think Rogers is throttling indiscriminately. i also use Skype a lot as well..


Sounds about right. I had the same thing when I was employed and working from home with Bell. It got really annoying. I even noticed they were fuckin with my FTP transfers. So I called to question them about this, the level 1 person said no of course. I asked to speak to somebody higher up, and they confirmed, so I canceled my account on the spot. I was legitimately using my FTP for school and work, and they tried to get me to upgrade to the business account, which of course I refused to do.


Posted by exstasie on Jan-12-2009 16:26:

Best solution?


Just connect to your neighbours un-encrypted network.

no hassle's at all.

Also, odds are that if they haven't encrypted their network, they haven't changed the default router passwords either. Very easy to hack in their and customize the settings to 'enhance' your wireless experience


Posted by Abercrombie on Jan-12-2009 17:36:

quote:
Originally posted by exstasie
Best solution?


Just connect to your neighbours un-encrypted network.

no hassle's at all.

Also, odds are that if they haven't encrypted their network, they haven't changed the default router passwords either. Very easy to hack in their and customize the settings to 'enhance' your wireless experience


I wish I could from my house, but I've never been to a friend's condo that I didn't pick up on someone else's open wifi


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