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Originally posted by kliq exactly... trance being the most melodic, is the easiest to crossover to the majority of the public and EDM noob community, but most of them wont get the whole long breakdown, where they just end up standing around wondering what to do... takes a really charismatic DJ to encourage the whole 'hands in the air' and then 'clapping' towards the buildup to get the crowd going...

no it doesn't - it takes:

1. high ticket prices to force people to have a good time and convince people of talent
2. lasers
3. lots of sound (youll see a lot of these people commenting on the BASS MAN FEEL THE BASS MAN and then theyll crank up their car stereos and turn on their neon licenseplate holder)
4. skimpy slutty bimbos, as objects of sexual desire for the mostly male crowd
5. emotional insecurity and teen angst
6. alcohol




with house music, we don't really need a crowd to have a party, just a funky beat and you to get it started. it wont take a lot of thought for you to do it, you just feel the groove, and baby, then you move it.

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Originally posted by nefardec 1. high ticket prices to force people to have a good time and convince people of talent 2. lasers 3. lots of sound (youll see a lot of these people commenting on the BASS MAN FEEL THE BASS MAN and then theyll crank up their car stereos and turn on their neon licenseplate holder) 4. skimpy slutty bimbos, as objects of sexual desire for the mostly male crowd 5. emotional insecurity and teen angst 6. alcohol

Fuck. Why did this have to happen to trance?

Also, I think house music is actually more accessible than most trance because of its rhythmic emphasis. Even if people don't "get" the thrill of synth noises or breakdowns, pretty much everybody can enjoy a nice beat. My gf basically never listens to dance music on her own, but she told me she enjoys house more than trance because it feels more "lively" in terms of rhythm.

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Originally posted by nefardec no it doesn't - it takes: 1. high ticket prices to force people to have a good time and convince people of talent 2. lasers 3. lots of sound (youll see a lot of these people commenting on the BASS MAN FEEL THE BASS MAN and then theyll crank up their car stereos and turn on their neon licenseplate holder) 4. skimpy slutty bimbos, as objects of sexual desire for the mostly male crowd 5. emotional insecurity and teen angst 6. alcohol with house music, we don't really need a crowd to have a party, just a funky beat and you to get it started. it wont take a lot of thought for you to do it, you just feel the groove, and baby, then you move it.

You forgot drugs man...


Do you actually know how many people dance(d) on (acid) house and trance (and more)? Or that it even is possible someone likes both (and even more)?

WE = "Only House Lovers"?

I used to go out on Friday to a club which then played House/Techno and on Saturday to a club which played Techno/Trance in a smaller area (1000 people) and guess what, many party people visited and danced at both clubs.

And the point you are trying to make is...

both forms are very accessable. I play a range of genre's, but mostly both of these. The problem I find is that no one likes the Trance very much. Most get into the dirty beats. Sucks when I want to play progressive, but the people don't want to be bored during peak time.

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Originally posted by woscar And the point you are trying to make is...

that people also can have a good party with trance without point 1-5.
I can't remember party's in similar area's where better or much different with house than with trance. In my early years of going out, trance wasn't played a lot, just house and techno. That changed over the years though.

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Originally posted by apple country both forms are very accessable. I play a range of genre's, but mostly both of these. The problem I find is that no one likes the Trance very much. Most get into the dirty beats. Sucks when I want to play progressive, but the people don't want to be bored during peak time.

Do you think this is the same all over the world?

I guess this was the same over here in the 90s when trance wasn't really popular, but I can't compare it to other countries.

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Originally posted by Trance-MB WE = "Only House Lovers"? I used to go out on Friday to a club which then played House/Techno and on Saturday to a club which played Techno/Trance in a smaller area (1000 people) and guess what, many party people visited and danced at both clubs.

the last part was the lyrics from a classic house track called 'big fun' by inner city aka kevin saunderson


just thought id be cheeky

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Originally posted by nefardec the last part was the lyrics from a classic house track called 'big fun' by inner city aka kevin saunderson just thought id be cheeky

I was 15 when I danced on Big Fun, I even have it on cd. First year I went out to a disco. Also remember Theme from S' - Express S on the same cd




Found some hands too. Maxi Jazz @Pinkpop 2002, I specially went for Faithless and it was great, hands in the air...:

i think the groove/rythm/dirty sounding beats etc that most of you are referring to in house music, is the emphasis of a heavy pronounced bassline in these tracks, which is another thing that trance lacks...

Martin Roth for eg brought the monster bassline in most of his 'nu-style' mixes in 08, and these tracks blew the roof off in clubs here... havent seen such pronounced basslines in trance for a while...

If you ask me , the difference between Electro House And Trance is pretty straightforward.

Electro house makes you want to dance , kinda like hip hop and all those dance music.

Trance gives you LOTS of energy , like that alphazone song . You just want to scream xD.

Anyone agree with me?

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Originally posted by Trance-MB Do you think this is the same all over the world? I guess this was the same over here in the 90s when trance wasn't really popular, but I can't compare it to other countries.

not at all. Everything is different in the US vs the world. People have a really negative attitude over EDM here. It sucks.

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Originally posted by noicuc If you ask me , the difference between Electro House And Trance is pretty straightforward. Electro house makes you want to dance , kinda like hip hop and all those dance music. Trance gives you LOTS of energy , like that alphazone song . You just want to scream xD. Anyone agree with me?

Not really. Electro house only makes me want to dance if I'm really really really really REALLY fuckin' sloshed.

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Originally posted by Sykonee Not really. Electro house only makes me want to dance if I'm really really really really REALLY fuckin' sloshed.

+1 on this one

I spin mostly various formats of trance myself but on the dancefloor I can easily enjoy myself to Techno, Minimal, House, etc. But not Electrohouse. The farty bassline and the occasional synth stabs just kill my enjoyment.

In many cases it just sounds silly to me, the same way Hardstyle tend to sound silly in the "harder" spectrum of things. So personally I find it telling that I've come across a lot of hardstyle people who enjoy electrohouse and vice versa

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Originally posted by noicuc If you ask me , the difference between Electro House And Trance is pretty straightforward. Electro house makes you want to dance , kinda like hip hop and all those dance music.

I think trance should make you want to dance, too. It's certainly possible to make trance music with a good sense of rhythm. Like this:

Marmion - "Schoneberg": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SpJZNaFx8Og&fmt=18

chooooon^^^^^!

one thing i cant stand with modern trance is how "epic" some of the phrase changes are becoming. In a set of these it just gets ridiculous. I love this tracks more minimalist quality.

Alot of modern trance is still great to listen away from a club environment, its just not really dance music anymore...cant party to much of it.

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Originally posted by Johan (DJ Irish) In many cases it just sounds silly to me, the same way Hardstyle tend to sound silly in the "harder" spectrum of things. So personally I find it telling that I've come across a lot of hardstyle people who enjoy electrohouse and vice versa

A lot of 'fart' house IS hardstyle, just at 130bpm. Tell me Pears isn't.

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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles I think trance should make you want to dance, too. It's certainly possible to make trance music with a good sense of rhythm. Like this: Marmion - "Schoneberg": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SpJZNaFx8Og&fmt=18

I guess these two versions don't make you want to dance, or do they?

Personally I prefer these two versions to dance on.
Marmion remix maybe is better for dance, but I like the Man With No Name version most, although I can understand when people think this one has too many layers.

Marmion - Schoneberg (Marmion remix)

Marmion - Sch�neberg (Man With No Name Remix)

i am wondering if clubs are getting bigger crowds because of electro house as opposed to 3-5 years ago when trance might have ruled the same clubs!!!

From where I am in the early ninetees the clubs that i went to played the RAVE stuff like James brown is dead and in the ninetees one would often wait 1-3 hours to get in the club waiting in the cue.
There were always cues no matter what time.

These days its pretty much straight in after the metal detector testof course hey hey

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Originally posted by Sykonee A lot of 'fart' house IS hardstyle, just at 130bpm. Tell me Pears isn't.

Doesn't sound like hardstyle to me.



Quite a lot of goa trance uses rythmnic ideas between different parts of the bass/melody/hi hats when I think about it, as does that marmion track, probably why mwnn remixed it.

Really wish I could find Eye trippin-Force of nature on youtube. Perfect example of awesome rythmn.

A modern psy example of use of a reasonable amount of rythmn(has high quality link btw):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9UqRYIFjr0

or if you can't be bothered:

All EDM in the end is about getting fucked up...

90% of people in a club don't even know what the fuck is going on, what they are listening to, or who the DJ is.

The perceptions of people on this forum are those of a small percentage of the over all listenership of dance music.

Its main point is to get people in the door and buying drinks.

Thats why all-ages massives in the states are 50$ a pop, kids cant drink and drugs don't (well most of the time) make the promoter a profit.

So Trance or Electro-House, to you and me it might be something different, but to the fucked up kid or the drunk mid 20 something jock-douche hitting on the chicks shaking their rump it doesn't matter a bit.

You can thank Martin Roth, Above and Beyond, Deadmau5, Super 8 & Tab, and Armin Van Buuren's Rush Hour / This World is Watching Me for getting me in to electronic music.

Do I even need to tell you what its like to have that kind of ego trip on a song? This World is Watching Me....................

What 20 something year old in America doesn't want to hear that shit?

Boy, aren't we all thanking them.

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Originally posted by factory81 You can thank Martin Roth, Above and Beyond, Deadmau5, Super 8 & Tab, and Armin Van Buuren's Rush Hour / This World is Watching Me for getting me in to electronic music. Do I even need to tell you what its like to have that kind of ego trip on a song? This World is Watching Me.................... What 20 something year old in America doesn't want to hear that shit?

The scene just wouldn't have been the same without you in it...

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