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Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov http://www.236.com/news/2009/01/22/...ca_mo_11166.php

that's funny.

It's a shame so many americans actually connect with the man. I find it slightly ironic (or maybe not) that the two biggest names in conservative talk radio are college drop-outs (i.e., Limbaugh and Hannity). I don't know what happened to Coulter, unlike those two, she was actually educated at very good schools (i.e., cornell and michigan law).

I may be wrong here, and someone correct me if I am, but if Obama's policies fail, we all lose. There is far too much money and time invested into these policies and into these programs.

There is no such thing as Obama's economic policies failing, yet miraculously companies throughout the nation experience unprecedented growth and our economy experiences a sudden boom. There is no such thing as the "nationalization of the mortgage industry" being a catastrophe, but yet foreclosures are at an all time low.

I wouldn't hope for failure on an enemy, let alone our own President.

If Obama fails to enact his policies, America wins. If he succeeds enacting them, he wins..but America loses. The goose that laid the golden egg will have it's tubes tied permanently.

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Originally posted by jerZ07002 if you actually read any of those quotes you see that the man is highly moronic. Calling the new deal the raw deal is ridiculous. Some of our most important legislation in the past 100 years came from the new deal: unemployment benefits, social security, FDIC, SEC, etc.... If those are bad policies, then i'm entirely in favor of enacting more bad policies. Rush is just stupid. I don't through stupid around frequently anymore, but the man is stupid.

true or false: you claimed that Rush didn't say he hopes Obama's policies fail, and I provided multiple direct quotes that he did say it. End of story.

The rest is just your opinion. And Social Security was never meant to balloon into the massive burden it has, but that's just another in a long line of unintended consequences of liberal policies... which are always defended by saying "we had the peoples' best interests at heart." If the New Deal was such a good idea, why are the same proportion of people on welfare and other government handouts today than back then? Why is the poverty rate pretty much where it's always been? It just goes back to the concept that giving people shit for free, especially those who already don't pay taxes and/or wait around for the government to do things for them, isn't the answer.

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Originally posted by jerZ07002 It's a shame so many americans actually connect with the man. I find it slightly ironic (or maybe not) that the two biggest names in conservative talk radio are college drop-outs (i.e., Limbaugh and Hannity). I don't know what happened to Coulter, unlike those two, she was actually educated at very good schools (i.e., cornell and michigan law).

That's a pretty elitist thing to say. I guess dropouts like Bill Gates, Oracle's Larry Ellison, Michael Dell, Steve Jobs, William Boeing, Walter Cronkite, David Geffen, Ralph Lauren, Edgar Allen Poe, and Stephen Speilberg are all stupid too, just like Rush.

And, Hannity dropped out of NYU for financial reasons.

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Jon Stewart does it again...

this is not his first song and dance playing the race card and thats EXACTLY what he is doing....but this time its bigger. He obviously has issues with men of color.

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� "Sorry to say this, I don't think he's been that good from the get-go. I think what we've had here is a little social concern in the NFL. The media has been very desirous that a black quarterback do well. There is a little hope invested in McNabb, and he got a lot of credit for the performance of this team that he didn't deserve. [57]" � On October 1, 2003, Limbaugh resigned from ESPN with the statement:� "My comments this past Sunday were directed at the media and were not racially motivated. I offered an opinion. This opinion has caused discomfort to the crew, which I regret. I love Sunday NFL Countdown and do not want to be a distraction to the great work done by all who work on it. Therefore, I have decided to resign. I appreciate the opportunity to be a part of the show and wish all the best to those who make it happen.[58]"

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Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov My point is only that he is not motivated out of any altruistic sentiments for country or countrymen - he wants to make a dime, and, as you've pointed out quite well, the easiest way to do that is to appeal to people's most base desires. The seed of hate may be planted in everyone, but people like him have made a career in carefully cultivating and directing that hate to serve solely personal aims. I think he is a very dangerous person.

The enormous cynic in me wants to argue that altruism is a ruse, that it isn't genuine or it isn't understood. Everyone wants to make a dime for themselves, the current state of things has just ever-increasingly indicated that it is far more prudent to do so by rallying people behind your cause, whatever it may be.

Even people who believe in the good of a nation, in its people, in its goals and organizations, its ability to change the world we live in - even those people have their camp, their pole to huddle around, simply waiting to dismantle the opposition in the name of "what's best". But all the best intentions ever boil down to are self-interest and its subsequent feast upon lesser ideals.

That said, I completely agree - he is a dangerous man, one whose influence reaches the far-right and uninspired minds of taxpayers living in a sheen of equal voting power. But this direction - this "hatred" - would its absence save people? Would it save mankind? I think that humans have demonstrated well enough that hate is unnecessary to bloodlust - no matter how you manipulate it, it shall not ever be quelled nor quenched.

But that doesn't mean we can't play the game where we pretend to be free of it just long enough to destroy those credited with its perpetuation.

one hell of a guy

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In these excerpts from one of his early interviews, Rush reveals how the talk radio sausage is made. Like any form of entertainment, the primary goal is to capture the attention of the audience and compel them to keep listening. Rush is remarkably candid in describing his attitude toward his performance and the importance of caller screening.

Rush is about as anti-american as they come.

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Originally posted by Clovis Rush is about as anti-american as they come.

Nonsense. He'd be far more interesting if he were.

I can't remember ever seeing Bush personally attack Olbermann or Chris Matthews, no matter how viscious the attacks got. One doesn't make points at all about bipartisanship by explicitly attacking another partisan voice, no matter how much one disagrees with it. By naming Rush and attempting to sideline him, Obama lifted Rush's profile and practically anointed him his opposition. It demonstrates that Obama still has no sense of his office, nor of "post-partisanship", regardless of his endlessly empty rhetoric on the subject.

Obama gave Rush an opportunity to reply on a much larger stage than usual, and make his actions against him look petty compared to big picture, as seen in a piece of that reply that I posed the other day:

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To make the argument about me instead of his plan makes sense from his perspective. Obama's plan would buy votes for the Democrat Party, in the same way FDR's New Deal established majority power for 50 years of Democrat rule, and it would also simultaneously seriously damage any hope of future tax cuts. It would allow a majority of American voters to guarantee no taxes for themselves going forward. It would burden the private sector and put the public sector in permanent and firm control of the economy. Put simply, I believe his stimulus is aimed at re-establishing "eternal" power for the Democrat Party rather than stimulating the economy because anyone with a brain knows this is NOT how you stimulate the economy. If I can be made to serve as a distraction, then there is that much less time debating the merits of this TRILLION dollar debacle.

Thanks to Obama, Rush just doubled his effectiveness. Anytime a man in a position of great power attacks someone with significantly less power, it lessens the greater man and raises up his opponent. If Obama's worried about any political pundit so much that he has to attack him personally, it shows weakness, which is exactly what he can't afford.


"Rush Limbaugh First Target of Obama's "NEW" Politics"

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Barack Obama, Democratic leaders and the media have made clear their rejection of George W. Bush's "old" politics. You see, President Bush did not launch assaults on private citizens, nor did he ever label anyone as "unpatriotic" for disagreeing with him. Thus, Obama and his friends are now effecting the change they promised. Welcome to their "new" politics. It began in December. When economically versed Republican senators had the courage to halt a multi-billion dollar giveaway to auto manufacturers and the United Auto Workers, it became clear how Democratic leaders intended to exercise their majority power. At the first sign of resistance, the same people who only months ago hailed the infinite virtues of dissent swiftly implemented its demonization. Democratic Governor Jennifer Granholm called the Republican dissenters� behavior "un-American." Democratic Congressman John Dingell, who has received close to a million dollars from the auto industry and has extensive family and financial ties to General Motors, declared that the Republican senators had "unpatriotically" opposed the bill. And that was before the elected Democratic Congress and president were even inaugurated. From what we have seen since they did take office, Obama and top Democrats have left no doubt that their message of unity is literal � unity, around leftist ideals of course, is going to be achieved either through voluntariness or through coercion. And what better way is there to purge opposition than by eliminating Rush Limbaugh from the picture? Some background is necessary. About 16 months ago, Limbaugh criticized anti-war propagandists who invented stories about having served in Iraq, appropriately labeling them "phony soldiers." Top Democrats at the time alleged that Limbaugh had called real troops "phony soldiers," faked extreme anger, and 41 senators, including Obama, signed a letter labeling Limbaugh's words as "unpatriotic." Four months ago, Obama launched campaign ads falsely asserting that Rush Limbaugh had spoken of Mexicans in a degrading manner. Yet to left-wing cohorts, Rush Limbaugh does not only hate the troops and Mexicans. Apparently, he also hates America.

Rest of article here---> http://www.northstarwriters.com/pi150.htm

... not that you guys will actually be open to reading viewpoints opposite of The One

And yet Rush's circle of supporters is getting smaller by the day:

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Bill Bennett disagreed with fellow conservative talking head Rush Limbaugh, who said that he wants President Obama "to fail." On CNN's "State of the Union," Bennett said, "The locution 'I want him to fail' is not what you say the first week the man's been inaugurated ... the rhetoric could be improved."

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Colin Powell: I think the party has to stop shouting at the world and at the country. I think that the party has to take a hard look at itself, and I've talked to a number of leaders in recent weeks and they understand that." "Can we continue to listen to Rush Limbaugh? Is this really the kind of party that we want to be when these kinds of spokespersons seem to appeal to our lesser instincts rather than our better instincts?"

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Radio talking head Rush Limbaugh said he hopes President Obama fails. Limbaugh would have you believe he is a bedrock defender of this country, that he loves it more than the rest of us, more than anything. That's a lie. Limbaugh just told us so, emphatically. It's not the country they love. It's the attention. The ideology, their perversion of conservatism, is but a means toward that end.

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/ht...ina25pitts.html

I don't know why the17sss keeps making this out to be about Obama - it's not. It's about how unpatriotic a person has to be to actually hope that the country gets run into the ground to serve his own side's political agenda. Or, more accurately, to serve his own personal aspirations of fame and notoriety.

Honestly, are any of you surprised Rush said this? This is Rush Limbaugh for crying out loud. I would have been really shocked if he wished Obama well.

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Originally posted by verndogs Honestly, are any of you surprised Rush said this? This is Rush Limbaugh for crying out loud. I would have been really shocked if he wished Obama well.

I think the difference in this case is that instead of merely picking apart Obama's actions, or trying to forecast "doom and gloom" because of what Obama is or may be doing, he overtly states that he wants him to fail, regardless of what it is he's going to do. Instead of being the "staunch conservative" that Rush is and faulting Obama on his non-"staunch conservative" ways, he's said that he wants Obama to fail, regardless of what it is he might do.

I guess it would be like if you knew someone that had a drug problem and instead of saying something like "I hope he gets in trouble because of drugs so it'll teach him a lesson," you say "I hope he fails at life and dies."

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Originally posted by The17sss That's a pretty elitist thing to say. I guess dropouts like Bill Gates, Oracle's Larry Ellison, Michael Dell, Steve Jobs, William Boeing, Walter Cronkite, David Geffen, Ralph Lauren, Edgar Allen Poe, and Stephen Speilberg are all stupid too, just like Rush. And, Hannity dropped out of NYU for financial reasons.

limbaugh dropped out of east missouri state or some shit like that.

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Originally posted by NeoPhono I think the difference in this case is that instead of merely picking apart Obama's actions, or trying to forecast "doom and gloom" because of what Obama is or may be doing, he overtly states that he wants him to fail, regardless of what it is he's going to do. Instead of being the "staunch conservative" that Rush is and faulting Obama on his non-"staunch conservative" ways, he's said that he wants Obama to fail, regardless of what it is he might do. I guess it would be like if you knew someone that had a drug problem and instead of saying something like "I hope he gets in trouble because of drugs so it'll teach him a lesson," you say "I hope he fails at life and dies."

I know what you're saying, but Rush stooping to new lows is what I expect from him.

Limbaugh loves this country so much he dodged vietnam because of a "consistent boi on his backside"

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Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On Nonsense. He'd be far more interesting if he were.

How is it nonsense. My reasoning is that he absolutely despises anyone who doesn't agree with him or doesn't fit his mold of what 'America' should be, I would say that he only likes and agrees with about 5-10% of Americans. He hates blacks, the disabled, anyone with a criminal record, anyone who uses drugs, liberals, hippies, foreigners, immigrants etc...the list goes on...

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Originally posted by verndogs I know what you're saying, but Rush stooping to new lows is what I expect from him.

I actually was a bit surprised to hear him stoop to this. It's kind of the ultimate low, beyond which there's not much more room to dig yourself. In my opinion, it also makes him much less entertaining and here's why;

I kind of see Rush, as well as other ultra far-leaning politico's on either end of the spectrum, as very similar to "fire and brimstone" evangelists. They all make their money by scaring people into believing that why they say is right, and if you don't believe it, you're screwed. They're here to sell you their inside knowledge on how things "really are," and unless you keep coming back, you're going to pay for it someday. To do this, they take information that is supposedly out there in plain sight, be it the bible or the actions of politicians, and interpret it in "clever" ways in order for it to work to their advantage. People become "hooked" by these interpretations and even those who disagree can at least be amused by how they see things.

The problem with this by Rush though, is that there is no "clever" interpretation of information, there is no reason to keep coming back. He simply states that he wants Obama to fail and there is no compelling reason as to why or any reason to hear more. It's as if a preacher were to say, "you're going to hell because I say so and there's nothing you can do about it." At that point what reason do you have to listen any more? There's no new insight to be had or entertainment to be found.

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Originally posted by Clovis How is it nonsense. My reasoning is that he absolutely despises anyone who doesn't agree with him or doesn't fit his mold of what 'America' should be, I would say that he only likes and agrees with about 5-10% of Americans. He hates blacks, the disabled, anyone with a criminal record, anyone who uses drugs, liberals, hippies, foreigners, immigrants etc...the list goes on...

It's the truth! Rush Limbaugh is a c*nt!

MLK was a republican though. And as one pundit so succinctly stated, the Democrat Party is as it always has been, the party of the four S's: slavery, secession, segregation and now socialism.

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Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov I don't know why the17sss keeps making this out to be about Obama - it's not. It's about how unpatriotic a person has to be to actually hope that the country gets run into the ground to serve his own side's political agenda. Or, more accurately, to serve his own personal aspirations of fame and notoriety.

You're missing the point man... you aren't understanding what he is saying. Like Sunsnail, you are automatically assuming Obama's policies are going to work and aren't questioning them, almost like a good intention equates with a guaranteed positive outcome.

Rush does not believe that growing government, raising taxes and entitlements, excessive spending and the implementation of these rediculous "stimulus" packages will work or will make the country better... as Obama has laid things out. In saying he wants those policies to fail, he believes that would be GOOD for the country. He's not saying he hopes it runs into the ground at all; that would be tantamount to him believing in the validity of Obama's policies and just hoping they don't work out so HE fails, which is incorrect.

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Originally posted by The17sss Rush does not believe that growing government, raising taxes and entitlements, excessive spending and the implementation of these rediculous "stimulus" packages will work or will make the country better... as Obama has laid things out. In saying he wants those policies to fail, he believes that would be GOOD for the country. He's not saying he hopes it runs into the ground at all; that would be tantamount to him believing in the validity of Obama's policies and just hoping they don't work out so HE fails, which is incorrect.

Then he should have had the same thing to say when Bush pushed the first half of the bailout.

I just really don't understand how you can take a complete hypocrite like Rush seriously.

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