Iran launches its first space sattelite!

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Posted by jerZ07002 on Feb-09-2009 03:39:

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Originally posted by sean5
"In Iran, we don't have homosexuals like in your country." - meaning they don't have flaming ******s running around bringing down the quality of life.

getting a dick in your ass is not a lifestyle or a way of identifying yourself. no you don't suddenly have style and stop talking like a 10 year old girl.

hopefully he does do away with these ******s, but hopefully he doesn't pollute space. an incinerator would be fine or subjecting to them to high levels of radioactive material.

wow - was that serious or poorly tasting jest?

Posted by sean5 on Feb-09-2009 03:51:

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Originally posted by jerZ07002
wow - was that serious or poorly tasting jest?

"whoa like people still think like that in this day and age?? i thought they just accepted what the jews told em now since like the holocaust and stuffz."

Posted by Krypton on Feb-09-2009 04:11:

WTF are you talking about? Homosexuals and space rockets should not belong in the same paragraph you idiot.

Posted by sean5 on Feb-09-2009 04:13:

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Originally posted by Krypton
WTF are you talking about? Homosexuals and space rockets should not belong in the same paragraph you idiot.

i wasn't the first person to bring it up "idiot". some nice returns on those portfolios btw 'genius' lulz

Posted by Krypton on Feb-09-2009 04:56:

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Originally posted by sean5
i wasn't the first person to bring it up "idiot". some nice returns on those portfolios btw 'genius' lulz

LOL...I'm beating the market by almost 30% points. Let's see you fail at trying......join the club, or kindly STFU...

Here you go...

http://marketocracy.com/cgi-bin/WebObjects/Portfolio.woa/ps/FundPublicPage/source=PkFcGlJaEjEgOmCmMaKiAbDc

Posted by Lemonad on Feb-10-2009 06:30:

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Originally posted by jerZ07002
It is highly irresponsible for a country like Iran, which is a middle of the pack country in every respect (education, income, healthcare, etc...) to blow money on space exploration. There is simply no reason, other than military and ego of rulers, for them to reinvent the wheel.

I could easily say the same about US sending a man to the moon, it was only to show off against the Russians.. what else did it prove?

They should be spending the money on Health Care.

Posted by Krypton on Feb-10-2009 06:57:

Posted by jerZ07002 on Feb-10-2009 07:11:

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Originally posted by Lemonad
I could easily say the same about US sending a man to the moon, it was only to show off against the Russians.. what else did it prove?

They should be spending the money on Health Care.

you could say whatever you want, that doesn't mean it will be correct. While I agree that missions to the moon were probably unproductive, american space exploration has produced some amazing new techologies. Imagine the world without weather satellites, GPS, or communications satellites. Additionally, space exploration has improved solar-power generation, cryogenic technologies, and has caused general advances in physics and other hard sciences. Certainly some of the money could have been better spent on health care or education, however, the benefits of american space exploration are glaringly obvious. There is nothing the Iranians will do anytime soon that will add to human welfare (with respect to space exploration). Furthermore, the US hasn't been a middle of the pack country (like the current iran) during the past 60 years. The US (and other countries) had the resources and minds to accomplish things, by exploring space, that are far greater than a few extra dollars thrown at health care. Iran simply doesn't have the same resources or minds. As a result, those resources would be far better allocated closer to earth's crust.

Posted by Lemonad on Feb-10-2009 09:49:

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Originally posted by jerZ07002
Iran simply doesn't have the same resources or minds. As a result, those resources would be far better allocated closer to earth's crust.

Oh the minds are there and definitely smarter than the Americans.

One example is for the Mars exploration mission which the Americans failed twice to only bring an Iranian on the third time to get it right his first try.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firouz_Naderi

If America was under the same sanctions Iran is, i doubt they would even be capable to do the same thing adding to the whole "Americans are lazy until they are motivated"

Sure the Iranians are behind but good on them trying to learn the whole thing out rather than 3rd party resources which will do them no good in the long run.

Posted by Lemonad on Feb-10-2009 09:50:

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Originally posted by Krypton
No you can't.

i just did.

Posted by Q5echo on Feb-10-2009 12:43:

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Originally posted by Lemonad
what else did it prove?

...that we, mankind, could put a man on the moon. things were different back then. the desire to do it was universal. the idea had no political boundries.

evryone knew it could be done but Americans did it because we were the only country in the world that had the knowledge, resources and a snowball's chance to do it.

remember, the Russians beat us to the punch by putting a man in orbit first. why did they do it?

Posted by Q5echo on Feb-10-2009 14:07:

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Originally posted by Lemonad
Oh the minds are there and definitely smarter than the Americans.

One example is for the Mars exploration mission which the Americans failed twice to only bring an Iranian on the third time to get it right his first try.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firouz_Naderi

according to that link he's been working for NASA for the last 30 years since 1979 (how ironic is that?) and got his phd at USC. What r u trying to imply again? Whatever it is try and be a little more concise if you're going to be dishonest about it without looking like a complete moron

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If America was under the same sanctions Iran is, i doubt they would even be capable to do the same thing adding to the whole "Americans are lazy until they are motivated"

No, silly. If anything, you've made it obvious that, in fact, it's Iran's political system is the reason Iran is where they are today and has failed with respect to this by noting Mr. Naderi and not just the entire reason for the sanctions in the first place

Posted by jerZ07002 on Feb-10-2009 15:22:

quote:
Originally posted by Lemonad
Oh the minds are there and definitely smarter than the Americans.

One example is for the Mars exploration mission which the Americans failed twice to only bring an Iranian on the third time to get it right his first try.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firouz_Naderi

If America was under the same sanctions Iran is, i doubt they would even be capable to do the same thing adding to the whole "Americans are lazy until they are motivated"

Sure the Iranians are behind but good on them trying to learn the whole thing out rather than 3rd party resources which will do them no good in the long run.

perhaps you need a lesson in american history. Quickly, america was once populated by indigenous people. Then, Europeans came and colonized the land. Since that time, people from all over the world have populated the country. Many great american achievements were accomplished by immigrants. Americans, however, unlike much of the world, consider immigrants to be americans much like those born here.

As Q correctly pointed out, he is american educated. That hardly shows iranian intellectual superiority (not unlike many other top foreign scientists who were educated at Princeton, MIT, Stanford, etc...). I bet he even speaks english without an accent.

Weak try buddy!

Yikes!!! grammatical errors all over the place.

Posted by Krypton on Feb-10-2009 17:13:

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Originally posted by Lemonad
i just did.

I think I misunderstood your statement. Never mind what I said.

Anyways, the USA kind of had to do the space program. The thought of the USSR weaponizing space kind of obliged the USA to do so.

Posted by Q5echo on Feb-11-2009 11:37:

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Originally posted by jerZ07002

I bet he even speaks english without an accent.

almost. Dr. Fihrouz Naderi is one damn fine American in my book.

Posted by LazFX on Feb-11-2009 16:33:

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Originally posted by Q5echo
almost. Dr. Fihrouz Naderi is one damn fine American in my book.

who would of thunk that Lemonad's total FAIL would of been so enlightening....

great video very interesting..

A+++ Would watch again

Posted by jerZ07002 on Feb-11-2009 17:58:

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Originally posted by LazFX
who would of thunk that Lemonad's total FAIL would of been so enlightening....

great video very interesting..

A+++ Would watch again

30 years in LA and a dodgers fan....sounds like an american to me. As much BS as you hear on TV about the US being anti-immigration recently, that's total BS! we warmly welcome anyone who actually wants to become an american.

Posted by LazFX on Feb-11-2009 18:15:

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Originally posted by jerZ07002
we warmly welcome anyone who actually wants to become an american.

That has not always been the case in our history. But I feel ya

Posted by Jake Benson on Feb-12-2009 01:33:

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Originally posted by Krypton
Don't you know Iran is supposed to be a third world piece of shit country!? Of course the Zionist American empire will not like.

Yes we should teach American to throw Hijabs on women, beat them if they marry outside their sect, hang gays (or just slice them in half), and push Jews out of the country. That will make it less Zionist and more like glorious nation Iran.

Posted by Krypton on Feb-12-2009 05:17:

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Originally posted by Jake Benson
Yes we should teach American to throw Hijabs on women, beat them if they marry outside their sect, hang gays (or just slice them in half), and push Jews out of the country. That will make it less Zionist and more like glorious nation Iran.

Relevance and coherency would help here...WTF is your point?

Posted by Lemonad on Feb-14-2009 10:04:

Reason why i posted that link was to counter that comment about Iranian minds. I bet the 2 previous attempts that worked on the project were full blooded Americans and still failed. This guy having been born in Iran still set him apart from the others cause he was "Iranian". I bet all the people that worked on the project were taught in America but still didn't reach his caliber.

Not really a fail but an "enlightment" that not all Iranians are evil that i bet Q5echo thinks. I can ignorantly say all Israelis are evil but that's not true. People who are involved in Iranian politics or Israeli politics or American politics should don't be compared to the general public, but that's just common sense right?

Hell even Ebay was made by an Iranian aswell, talk about Iranian minds. But don't worry, he is half french. Thought i'd mention that for people who are ignorant towards hearing about smart Iranians or popular Iranians.

The comments here are just pure hate towards Iran as a whole. See this whole thing as progress that not alot of other countries can achieve when put under severe sanctions for 30 years. It's remarkable actually.

Let this battle of the races be between the Iranian and American governments and not between the public of the two countries.

Maybe we should all take a lesson from that video; "we are all united in our humanity"

Posted by Krypton on Feb-14-2009 19:08:

Iran is more western than most you think...

Posted by Q5echo on Feb-14-2009 21:17:

Posted by jerZ07002 on Feb-14-2009 21:20:

quote:
Originally posted by Lemonad
Reason why i posted that link was to counter that comment about Iranian minds. I bet the 2 previous attempts that worked on the project were full blooded Americans and still failed. This guy having been born in Iran still set him apart from the others cause he was "Iranian". I bet all the people that worked on the project were taught in America but still didn't reach his caliber.

I never said that Iranians were stupid. I simply said that the country doesn't have the minds for this. I just read that the country loses about 150,000 of its collegiate level population every year. How the hell can Iran accomplish anything significant (and beneficial) when its brightest people are leaving at that pace? I went to a top tier US university with a substantial international student body, so I understand the intellectual capacity of people from around the world. In addition, I work at an international consulting firm with very bright people from just about every country. However, certain countries (apparently Iran being the tops of this list) have a difficult time retaining their talent because of the political environment.

In any event, this scientist was taught in america as well! Let's just assume you have a point (which i'm not conceding), what does that prove? One person born in Iran, who has lived in the US for the past 30 years and was educated in the US, means that Iran has more intellectual resources than the US or that it's population is generally smarter than americans? That's simply stupid because this man is likely more of an outlier, and your assertion is simply not verifiable.

A quick wikipedia search (because i'm not too interested in doing real research on this issue) shows that the US has about 15 million students enrolled at college at any given time. Furthermore, the US has the top universities in the world (recognized by every reputable person - i.e., harvard, princeton, stanford, columbia, MIT) On the other hand, Iran has a population of about 60 million people, and about 1 million people in university. I don't doubt those 1 million students are bright, however, when matched by the sheer number of students produced in the US, they are simply outmatched. Additionally, in certain cases, US students benefit from having some of the brightest research minds from around the world teaching them (at the top schools). As a result, the chances that the US will produce more brilliant students (on a whole number scale) is much greater than the chances for Iran.

As the saying goes, the proof is in the pudding. Take a look at how many nobel prize winners in economics, physics, and medicine come from the US. Then take a look at how many come from Iran. Also, you should try and create a list of recent significant contributions to technology, medicine, etc.... made by Iranians. I'm sure that list is much shorter than a similar list of american contributions. Admittedly, some of this may be a result of the stifling political environment in Iran, however, that doesn't diminish my point because the political environment is a factor in all of this.

As for Pierre Omidyar, the french born iranian, he moved to the US at the age of six, and is entirely a product of american education. Your examples suck because they don't prove anything. These men are americans, who were born somewhere else (like tens of millions of other americans). How do they contribute to Iranian resources?

Posted by Lemonad on Feb-15-2009 06:24:

I get what your trying to say but i don't think you understand what the sanctions put on Iran have done to it.

Let me tell you something about what is happening.

My uncle 6 years ago finished his PHD in Physics in the field of conductivity so he is teach about Super conductivity and Semi conductors and all that kind of stuff. He studied at Sydney University then went back to Iran to teach as a professor. First thing he told me was that the books dated at least 30 years and they weren't fully up to date with most stuff.

Pre 1979, before the revolution, no sanctions are on Iran and the education level is up to date. Now with sanctions and 30 years later, Iran is trying to fetch up to date work from other places like my Uncle for example.

You can't possibly say that anyone that gets taught in America has better potential. If Iran didn't have sanctions and had the level of education that was in America, it could probably be building stuff on the moon by now.

The comment about Nobel Peace prizes, again read above comment and you will see that you are wrong with comparing them like that.

Your comparing Oranges to Apples here. Let's compare Iran to another country with sanctions and let's see the progress difference, oh yes Iran is far better.

If i was a film maker in Australia, i would want to go to Hollywood because it has 'potential', not because it's a good place to be or it has better education. When America falls from it's superpower status then falls upon China or whoever, then people will go there when there is more opportunities. If Iran wasn't under the same sanctions, then people wouldn't leave Iran at all. Other countries have better income so it draws these people. Many professors that learn in western countries go back to Iran cause it isn't as 'fake' as western nations.

Let me say that i believe the Revolution was the best thing that happened to Iran. It removed foreign influence and made Iran think for itself. Can't say much about Israel for that matter even the Arab countries love being spoon fed.

Despite all the sanctions and hardships ranging from financial to education, you can't possibly say this is a good work that only a few countries can do.

Iran Khodro is the 16th biggest automobile manufacturer in the world. Yes the cars are ugly, but they are getting there with little help that America tries to remove from them. This attack of the nations is against the Iranian people, not the government.

Iran has cloned a sheep after a 30 attempts compared to the British attempt of 277 failures. The sheep Royana is still alive after 15 months and still thriving. limited education but still able to do this, unique i say.

So regardless of what you think of their progress, sit back and think about the impact of what the sanctions have done and turned them into a pariah thanks to USA.

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