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Originally posted by dannib I really dont understand why you would want to get a good hardware compressor for a synthesizer. If you are going to be recording acoustic instruments, drumes etc then yes. Why would he need a compressor for the moog voyager or LP? If you want to get the very best sound out of your voyager (assuming you buy one). Learn the instrument inside out, get a good quality pre-amp/DI and a high quality A/D converter. Why would you want to design the transients of the synth with a compressor? That is what its envelopes are for. If you are needing to compress synths on a regular basis then you need to learn alot more about sound design/synthesis imo. Try taking a feed of either the voyager headphone output or right main out (if using in mono) then feeding it back into the external input of the synth. Turn on the external input switch and drive the level to taste! This was a trick used extensively on the original minimoogs back in the 70s. Depending on how high you set the external input level, you can get some huge distorted/screaming leads and basses etc. If you have a voyager, try routing a sound into a distortion pedal or similar, pre-filter. (you can do this on the voyager). Then route back into the synth and use its filters, post distortion. This sounds awesome too.

He posted a youtube of a John Dahlback electro remix and some of those sounds would be best achieved with a good hardware compressor carving and compressing things up tightly into their place. Besides why wouldn't he want to use a good analogue compressor to improve the punch of basslines he'll be making with the Voyager? A software compressor would be a heavy bottleneck on the Voyager. ADSR tweaking on sounds has a different purpose than what a good compressor can do to a sound to carve the timing and space it occupies to perfection. The difference between a good bassline and an amazing bassline could be less than 3 millisecs, and that sort of resolution is best achieved with a good quality analogue compressor. Its a no brainer alongside either of those Moog synths. And he already has a good converter, I think he has something Apogee, he might need to add some channels though.

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Originally posted by dj bamshad if i want to do something like that, i dont want to half ass it and buy another one 6 months down the road, so could you give me like a few options to good ones that would go with a lp or voyager?

DBX 160 is actually good for bassline and percussion. So that will do you good. A step up would be a Distressor. You can't go wrong with either, id start with the DBX 160, itll let you do great things to your basslines that come from your Voyager and to your drums, and wont hurt your pocket too much, especially if you find one used. Software fans might disagree, but your favorite software compressor will diminish the quality the Voyager can bring to your sound compared to what a good analogue compressor will add to the Voyager's abilities.

Just get Arturia Minimoog V for $249.
It's supposed to be a VERY good emulation. It does sound great too.

Or, you could always buy a poor-man's Moog: Studio Electronics SE-1(X). It's supposedly a better replica of the original MiniMoog than the Voyager is. Just another option to consider.

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Originally posted by cryophonik It's supposedly a better replica of the original MiniMoog than the Voyager is. Just another option to consider.

The Voyager is a Minimoog.

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Originally posted by Subtle The Voyager is a Minimoog.

Read my comment again: I said the original (i.e., Model-D) Minimoog introduced nearly 40 years ago. The Voyager is not the same thing as the Model-D.

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Originally posted by cryophonik Read my comment again: I said the original (i.e., Model-D) Minimoog introduced nearly 40 years ago. The Voyager is not the same thing as the Model-D.

Ok i thought they were the same except for digital controls.

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Originally posted by dannib It is a pretty standard stab that sound. It sounds as if it is a three note chord. Remember the Phatty only has two oscillators, while the voyager has three and a noise generator as well. With the voyager you would just tune ocsillator 2 & 3 differently to osc 1 to create the chord, then just use the envelopes to create the pluckiness.

so your saying i can get the same sound with the lp? its a big sound for me btw

because i can always get white noise and throw it on top im good at that

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Originally posted by Subtle Ok i thought they were the same except for digital controls.

No, they actually sound quite different. The original is a lot.. grungier and the voyager is a lot ... juicer. Sorry for the horrible adjectives. There's a video on youtube if you care to look it up. Just search 'moog voyager'

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No, they actually sound quite different. The original is a lot.. grungier and the voyager is a lot ... juicer. Sorry for the horrible adjectives. There's a video on youtube if you care to look it up. Just search 'moog voyager'

this is true. The Voyager sounds slightly darker/warmer. The model D sounds dirty/raw aggressive. The Voyager has many many more features than the model D and way more modulation options. Using the Voyager feedback trick i described earlier, you can get the voyager sounding very similar though.

They are both awesome beasts in their own right.

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