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Re: Gender and the House Music Scene

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Originally posted by jchung52 Now, keeping ALL of that in mind (did you learn something new?) I would like to recount some of my experiences. In the past year and a half that I have been in the house music scene, I have attended many great events and met so many incredible, wonderful people (and listened to some great music while I was at it!) In the house music scene, the MUSIC is all that it�s about.lol, yeah right And the place I felt it most at�� was Comfort Zone. Who would believe me if I told them I felt in my element and completely comfortable at Comfort Zone! The atmosphere� is unparalleled to any other music/social event I have ever attended."

When people at these parties eat skittles tasting each color of the rainbow and snort their cat's medication ofcourse everyone will be much more friendly lol

and Comfort Zone??? Come on! Half of the crowd at Comfort Zone don't even realize they are at Comfort Zone, while the other half is sketching out...

Shes in the middle

Shes gorgeous and intelligent.. and far from a dyke

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Originally posted by infinity HiGH Comfort Zone? What the fuck?? To sum up: "The more high people are, the less attitude they have." Doesn't take a feminist to figure that one out.

Actually it takes two feminists to figure it out. One to bitch about why a man figured this out sooner and the other to prepare dinner.

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Originally posted by ChemEnhanced Actually it takes two feminists to figure it out. One to bitch about why a man figured this out sooner and the other to prepare dinner.

pwn3d

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Originally posted by barbina Shes in the middle Shes gorgeous and intelligent.. and far from a dyke

give her time...she'll want to experiment sooner or later

lol i asked for her permission before posting this. it was a post to show someones appreciation of the scene who took the the time to express it. i knew this would bring up some argument/bashing. im not taking sides, i just wanted to see how many of you would respond which has been quite clear so far

when someone keeps saying "house music scene" only obviously doesnt really know much of the electronic scene and therefore IS a n00b and naive to the whole thing...

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Originally posted by jchung52 lol i asked for her permission before posting this. it was a post to show someones appreciation of the scene who took the the time to express it. i knew this would bring up some argument/bashing. im not taking sides, i just wanted to see how many of you would respond which has been quite clear so far

LOL dude it's TOTA did you expect anything different?

I guess Chinamon's threads this week have been lacking so we gotta take it out on something(one) else.

Cept for those popcorn pics. LOL that's just classic.

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Originally posted by jchung52 lol i asked for her permission before posting this. it was a post to show someones appreciation of the scene who took the the time to express it. i knew this would bring up some argument/bashing. im not taking sides, i just wanted to see how many of you would respond which has been quite clear so far

Good enough then
I love that she posted it.. shes just showing her love for the scene and how much better it really is than the top40 scene. Nothing wrong with a little appreciation.

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Originally posted by barbina Good enough then I love that she posted it.. shes just showing her love for the scene and how much better it really is than the top40 scene. Nothing wrong with a little appreciation.

Barb she is clearly bashing the Top 40 scene and men in the Top 40 scene...

and also all that crap about feminism...

Chinamon used to play with Pink Barbie Dolls when he was a kid all the time, now he just sucks on hookah hoses. He grew up fine and straight?

This scene is very accepting. The variety of people I have in my life from the scene is amusing, and I love it.

She is definitely right about the vibe of the party, I am forever sad that I can no longer enjoy a rock concert. I mean really why does no one dance. Boooorrrrrrring! I'll listen at home, but won't pay for one now. Parties do not compare.

I thought this read was going to accent the reasons that dj's are predominantly male. meh.

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Originally posted by MissK I thought this read was going to accent the reasons that dj's are predominantly male. meh.

i thought so too...but its not like women are frowned upon as djs...in fact women are held high on a pedestal as djs....question is, in terms of skill which matters the most in the EDM community, where do they compare?

shit male djs dont get far either so its all fair

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Originally posted by �Zm�zis Barb she is clearly bashing the Top 40 scene and men in the Top 40 scene...

Uh.. I know. I'm agreeing with her on everything she said about it. I meant shes showing appreciation for the EDM scene. Wake up ozzy

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Originally posted by El K Dee shit male djs dont get far either so its all fair

I dunno dude. Looking at the DJ Mag poll says otherwise

(as for why there aren't many female DJ's I think it's because most women just don't get THAT into the music and everything behind it.)

^^^^no...just the 'house music scene' (which ironically is focused more on techno and tech house...lol)

EDIT: i was pointing to barbina's post...not infinititly low's

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Originally posted by El K Dee ^^^^no...just the 'house music scene' (which ironically is focused more on techno and tech house...lol) EDIT: i was pointing to barbina's post...not infinititly low's

Males are more predominant as DJ's than females because males have a tendency to be obsessive.
I've discussed this with some male DJ friends and they will admit that it is a huge factor they will sit for days and mix and practice and get new tracks and produce new tracks. I mean DAYS. They obsess. They can't stop. They won't stop.

The best are obsessive. trust.

The love for the music is just the beginning.

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Originally posted by infinity HiGH I dunno dude. Looking at the DJ Mag poll says otherwise (as for why there aren't many female DJ's I think it's because most women just don't get THAT into the music and everything behind it.)

over 3/4 of the women go "i dont care i just wanna dance"..msot dont know shit about the dj or even what tracks are produced and really dont care...those that have the knowledge have other things they're more passionate about

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Originally posted by infinity HiGH I dunno dude. Looking at the DJ Mag poll says otherwise (as for why there aren't many female DJ's I think it's because most women just don't get THAT into the music and everything behind it.)

There are some really talented female DJs but I can't think of many female Trance DJs that I would want to see and if you look at DJ Mag its mostly trance.

I think female and male DJs are on a level playing field when it comes to opportunities of making it internationally.

I think female DJs have one big selling feature...sex appeal. Unfortunately, I think some miss use that feature by parading around topless....but if used properly, it can really grow their fanbase.

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Originally posted by barbina Uh.. I know. I'm agreeing with her on everything she said about it. I meant shes showing appreciation for the EDM scene. Wake up ozzy

Yeah that's cool I understand that too. However, the whole first section and the points she uses to back-up her feminist views on how men & women are segregated in society is just bull.

Sure, I think that much more needs to be done in other parts of the world where woman barely have any rights. But the constructs she uses is what seperates us!

For F*** sakes, men have a penis for a reason and women have a vagina for a reason. We're different.

Men and Woman are different as simple as that...

I'm not saying that Women and Men should be treated different in terms of social equality but the difference is there for every other aspect.

and not only that but all aspects of reality are socially constructed... not just the constructs she describes.

All the power to social equality but not to the stupid social constructs she is talking about.

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Originally posted by MissK Males are more predominant as DJ's than females because males have a tendency to be obsessive. I've discussed this with some male DJ friends and they will admit that it is a huge factor they will sit for days and mix and practice and get new tracks and produce new tracks. I mean DAYS. They obsess. They can't stop. They won't stop. The best are obsessive. trust. The love for the music is just the beginning.

You're exactly right. That's what I meant when I said "get THAT into the music and everything behind it." Everything behind it meaning the technology and how it works, who's who in the industry, etc etc etc.

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Originally posted by ChemEnhanced There are some really talented female DJs but I can't think of many female Trance DJs that I would want to see and if you look at DJ Mag its mostly trance. I think female and male DJs are on a level playing field when it comes to opportunities of making it internationally. I think female DJs have one big selling feature...sex appeal. Unfortunately, I think some miss use that feature by parading around topless....but if used properly, it can really grow their fanbase.

Lottie is a great (or was, I dunno what she's doin now) female house DJ from England. Really good taste in music.

Somebody probably mentioned this, but that first post sounds a lot like e-babble. God it's annoying when you bump into people that think they're smarter on drugs. Go away, I just want to dance.

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Originally posted by MissK Males are more predominant as DJ's than females because males have a tendency to be obsessive. I've discussed this with some male DJ friends and they will admit that it is a huge factor they will sit for days and mix and practice and get new tracks and produce new tracks. I mean DAYS. They obsess. They can't stop. They won't stop. The best are obsessive. trust. The love for the music is just the beginning.

*puts on his 1st year gender studies hat*

obsessiveness is just a gender construct that's been forced onto the male 'gender trait' since birth and is a result of social conditioning from a young age. If females were given dumpster-trucks instead of ballerina tootoo's at a young age, they'd be behind the decks and not in go-go cages.

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Originally posted by Skipper She comes across as someone who just got their first lightshow or backrub. Give her time!

Yeah i was just thinking the same thing, the comments seem like she is new (partied less then 3 years) and is still on the honeymoon stage of partying. I was the same way 8 years ago. I wish i could see the scene in that light again and forget the things i have seen.

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