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Posted by nchs09 on Feb-10-2009 02:47:

lol


Posted by Sweet Death on Feb-10-2009 03:37:

quote:
Originally posted by Lunar Phase 7
That video was tame as shit.

Yeah racism sucks, but man you couldn't have got a shitty video if you tried.


Everybody knows that a skinhead neo nazi is a racist, that's not a surprise to anybody. People like that cannot be made to change.

The point of this video is to show that there are millions of so called normal people who harbor racist views and especially when drunk can come out with sickening abuse like this.

We tried to erase the hate in '08
Now it is time to draw a line in '09!


Posted by phyrrus on Feb-10-2009 03:41:

quote:
Originally posted by Sweet Death
We tried to erase the hate in '08
Now it is time to draw a line in '09!


can't we do a line instead of drawing one? surely drugs never made people "harbor racist views."


Posted by Frenchie on Feb-10-2009 03:44:

Why?


Posted by Domesticated on Feb-10-2009 03:47:

I don't get what it is you awful people all have against negroes. I love black people, I think everyone should own one.


Posted by Frenchie on Feb-10-2009 03:48:

Kneegrows stole my kike.


Posted by Jake Benson on Feb-10-2009 04:56:

quote:
Originally posted by Frenchie
Kneegrows

hahahahahahahah


Posted by Nrg2Nfinit on Feb-10-2009 04:59:

lamborgini coon tash



hahahahhaha


Posted by idoru on Feb-10-2009 07:13:

quote:
Originally posted by Sweet Death
Everybody knows that a skinhead neo nazi is a racist, that's not a surprise to anybody. People like that cannot be made to change.


Yeah, okay. Nobody is ever capable of changing their views once they're past a certain point.

quote:
The point of this video is to show that there are millions of so called normal people who harbor racist views and especially when drunk can come out with sickening abuse like this.


Everybody has racist thoughts. Shut the fuck up if you try telling me that you haven't had even the slightest racial thought cross your mind over the last couple of months. You're lying to me and to yourself in a paltry attempt at saving face. Just because we all have them doesn't necessarily make us racists. I may think of a joke, but that's all it is; a joke. I don't support the ideas nor stereotypes behind it.

quote:
We tried to erase the hate in '08


And in '07
And in '06
And in '05
And in '04
And in '03
And in '02
And in '01
And in '00
And in '99
And in '98
And in '97
And in '96
And in '95
And in '94
etc.
etc.
etc.

quote:
Now it is time to draw a line in '09!


Nice job with the rhymes, Dre. Any actual advice or ideas for actions that we should take? Or are you just going to sit there and spout off positive slogans?

Also...



























































Niggers


Posted by haqq on Feb-10-2009 09:16:

Why do Jewish people get mad when you call them a Jew or for that matter anyone a Jew...?

Like the other day I was like Josh you Jew give me my change, he got mad.

Stupid kike.


Posted by Lunar Phase 7 on Feb-10-2009 12:18:

quote:
Originally posted by Sweet Death
Everybody knows that a skinhead neo nazi is a racist, that's not a surprise to anybody. People like that cannot be made to change.

The point of this video is to show that there are millions of so called normal people who harbor racist views and especially when drunk can come out with sickening abuse like this.

We tried to erase the hate in '08
Now it is time to draw a line in '09!


They are simple minded retards, I expect dumb fuck beer boys and their trashy slut women to act like this, it's a generation thing mate, a lot of the 30-40 yr olds were growing up on the tail of the black/white split, etc. I am fortunate my mother always taught me to respect other races. My father however was mildly racist, not that he was around for long.

And EVERYONE is predudice to some extend, drunk or not.

Shit will always be like this. I wonder when it will be a hate crime to pick on fat ****s or the poor.


Posted by Orbital32 on Feb-10-2009 13:49:

quote:
Originally posted by idoru
Niggers.



Posted by Lira on Feb-10-2009 14:08:

quote:
Originally posted by idoru
Everybody has racist thoughts.

How so, Jake?


Posted by chach on Feb-10-2009 14:15:

no


Posted by coroknight on Feb-10-2009 14:18:

At least you guys can joke about it. I know a bunch of people (usually older) who will act offended at the joking around then go right ahead and talk about how the black people in their english class can't speak correctly.

It's the subtle racists that are the worst.


Posted by Lira on Feb-10-2009 14:29:

quote:
Originally posted by coroknight
At least you guys can joke about it. I know a bunch of people (usually older) who will act offended at the joking around then go right ahead and talk about how the black people in their english class can't speak correctly.

It's the subtle racists that are the worst.

Linguistic prejudice != Racism

Even though Ebonics is a quite peculiar movement...


Posted by coroknight on Feb-10-2009 14:32:

quote:
Originally posted by coroknight
black people [...] can't speak correctly.


Look me in the eye and tell me that isn't racist.


Posted by Sweet Death on Feb-10-2009 14:33:

quote:
Originally posted by idoru
Everybody has racist thoughts. Shut the fuck up if you try telling me that you haven't had even the slightest racial thought cross your mind over the last couple of months. You're lying to me and to yourself in a paltry attempt at saving face. Just because we all have them doesn't necessarily make us racists. I may think of a joke, but that's all it is; a joke. I don't support the ideas nor stereotypes behind it.


What? you think everyone has racist thoughts and occasionally expresses it with drunken abuse in the street? Perhaps you've just revealed something about yourself there.


Posted by Moral Hazard on Feb-10-2009 14:38:


Posted by chach on Feb-10-2009 14:40:

quote:
Originally posted by Moral Hazard


Posted by Lira on Feb-10-2009 14:53:

quote:
Originally posted by coroknight
Look me in the eye and tell me that isn't racist.

You need to post a pic, first.

But, in any case, you're oversimplifying the issue. There's a complex background to those claims, and you even put it in the proper context in your first post.

The claim is that "black people in their english class can't speak correctly", and that says a lot more than you imagine it does. For some unknown reason, we all learn how to speak very early in life, but it's as if none of us spoke 'right' until we're properly taught in school (and people buy it, wth?!). Black Vernacular English, which is the language these folks learnt at home differs significantly more than the language you (I assume) learnt at home for historical reasons.

I bet that, if a white child adopted by speakers of Black Vernacular English went to school, and spoke "Ebonics" in the classroom, your friends would criticise him just as much.


Posted by coroknight on Feb-10-2009 15:09:

quote:
Originally posted by Lira
You need to post a pic, first.

But, in any case, you're oversimplifying the issue. There's a complex background to those claims, and you even put it in the proper context in your first post.

The claim is that "black people in their english class can't speak correctly", and that says a lot more than you imagine it does. For some unknown reason, we all learn how to speak very early in life, but it's as if none of us spoke 'right' until we're properly taught in school (and people buy it, wth?!). Black Vernacular English, which is the language these folks learnt at home differs significantly more than the language you (I assume) learnt at home for historical reasons.

I bet that, if a white child adopted by speakers of Black Vernacular English went to school, and spoke "Ebonics" in the classroom, your friends would criticise him just as much.


This issue needs to be simplified. In the case of racism the backround of a particular person does not matter. This is a case of racial prejudice which is also a form or racism.

Although the quote specifically talks about english class that does not make the comment not racist because it singles out a group of people based on their race.

Look deeper into my original comment. I've laughed at chappelle's show like a lot of people did. However, we have all heard those side comments that imply racism. That is what I meant by subtle racism.


Posted by Lira on Feb-10-2009 16:49:

quote:
Originally posted by coroknight
This issue needs to be simplified. In the case of racism the backround of a particular person does not matter. This is a case of racial prejudice which is also a form or racism.

Wait, just so I can be sure we're talking about the same thing, what's the difference between racial prejudice and racism? I see no difference here
quote:
Originally posted by coroknight
Although the quote specifically talks about english class that does not make the comment not racist because it singles out a group of people based on their race.

Are you telling me that they'd make no fun whatsoever of rednecks whose English is far from being the one taught at school?
quote:
Originally posted by coroknight
Look deeper into my original comment. I've laughed at chappelle's show like a lot of people did. However, we have all heard those side comments that imply racism. That is what I meant by subtle racism.

I understood what you meant. I just pointed out that, although there's a correlation in that particular case between a group of people and a dialect, so to speak, the issue here is not the fact that they're "black", but how they speak English.


Posted by Moral Hazard on Feb-10-2009 17:01:

quote:
Originally posted by Lira
Wait, just so I can be sure we're talking about the same thing, what's the difference between racial prejudice and racism? I see no difference here


I would suggest to you that racial prejudice are simple pre-conceived notions about a person's character/personality based on racial stereotypes whereas racism is discriminatory action taken for or against a person based exclusively on their race. The former being a rather benign and natural method of managing expectations in the absence of other evidence while the latter is an active process of determining how one will act toward another ignoring all factors other then their race.


Posted by Lira on Feb-10-2009 17:13:

quote:
Originally posted by Moral Hazard
I would suggest to you that racial prejudice are simple pre-conceived notions about a person's character/personality based on racial stereotypes whereas racism is discriminatory action taken for or against a person based exclusively on their race.

Oh, I could work with a distinction like that

I'm puzzled by the fact that (s)he said racial prejudice is (also) a kind of racism, so that would make racism 'the belief that races exists' (or something of that sort) and racial prejudice would be 'acting according to the belief that races exist'. But, isn't this way of thinking somewhat circular? And, what would the other forms of racism be?


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