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Posted by Aortik on Feb-16-2009 15:02:

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Originally posted by Arbiter
no acts of hatred, discrimination, intimidation and coercion are likely to result from the defamation of religions no one surviving believes in...


Arbiter's Final Solution?


Posted by Aortik on Feb-16-2009 15:14:

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Originally posted by haqq
So let me get this straight... Its okay for ADL to exist, but when Islam has something like this, its bad? The Jewish influence on United States is vast, why till this day the American citizens haven't figured that out yet is beyond me. People are so mixed up in this "Muslims trying to take over the world" bullshit, that they haven't realized that Judaism is in the process or has already succeeded into doing just that. Stop wandering along with the mass-media outlets. Dig deeper and get the true stories.

And if you don't believe what I mean by the Jewish takeover, here is a starting list to set you on the right path. Now I wonder why Israel has so much support...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...can_politicians
re: "Most jews to ever enter congress"




What would [is?] so bad about a Jewish dominion? They'd turn the world into some pluralist, economic powerhouse, oh nooooo.


Posted by Arbiter on Feb-16-2009 17:39:

quote:
Originally posted by Aortik
Arbiter's Final Solution?


Hey, I'm just following the UN's lead here...


Posted by Krypton on Feb-16-2009 18:07:

Israel basically has a seat on the Security Council. It can do anything it wants. I think the UN should fix the Security Council 'no veto' clause to provide for a way to override a veto. But it should only be for the case in which there is just one veto out of the 5 permanent members.


Posted by Lebezniatnikov on Feb-16-2009 19:02:

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Originally posted by Krypton
Israel basically has a seat on the Security Council. It can do anything it wants. I think the UN should fix the Security Council 'no veto' clause to provide for a way to override a veto. But it should only be for the case in which there is just one veto out of the 5 permanent members.



I don't think there's any disagreement about the need to reform the voting structure of the Security Council, though I'd only point out that Israel is by no means the only (or best) example of a country having a de facto veto. Look how helpless the SC has been in addressing human rights issues in Burma or Sudan.

This is an excellent summary of issues related to reform (including enlargement and democratization of the Council) and is a definite must-read for anyone interested in debating the efficacy and relevance of the Security Council or the United Nations.

http://www.globalpolicy.org/securit.../0713theses.htm


Posted by atbell on Feb-16-2009 20:20:

Re: United Nations passes a gag order on insulting religions (aka free speech killer)

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Originally posted by Magnetonium


A new chapter in the rise of fundamentalism is here. The decline of our culture and society as we know it has began. Religion, in particularly Islam, has scored a huge victory here. Makes me wonder why BBC News all of a sudden has stopped posting about women's rights in Muslim countries ...

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news...-speech-killer/



fixed.

Our culture has been declining for a while now.

Check out Tainter's 'The collapse of complex societies'. So far the best part of it has been the description of the Roman decline.

Mysticisim is usually cited as a sign post for decline / comming declin. I don't see why the religions of today won't be the mysticisim of the future.

I don't agree with a ban but I do think it's a good idea to be civil and to avoid provocation for provocations sake.


Posted by atbell on Feb-16-2009 20:29:

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Originally posted by BARS-N-STARS
The UN is the biggest joke. If the UN could/would do their job the United States would feel the need to police the world. America could save billions a year doing thier f@cking job!


The UN does it's job, it established international consensus.

The enforcement of consensus is not a priority because it is recognized as a task that is massive and that is in violation of national soverignty.

It's no surprise that a flag wavin unilateralist doesn't understand that though.


Posted by atbell on Feb-16-2009 20:38:

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Originally posted by DJ Damerchi


EDIT: as shown in recent events in Kyrgigistan sp?, Russia is making efforts to stand up to Nato, it will be interesting to see if there is a shift of balance in the policing aspect over the coming decades.


These events were not against NATO but against the US.

Central Asia is the first area where the US presence is being removed. Expect more in the comming years.


Posted by Halcyon+On+On on Feb-16-2009 23:17:

Re: Re: United Nations passes a gag order on insulting religions (aka free speech killer)

quote:
Originally posted by atbell
Our culture has been declining for a while now.


Culture is always touted as being in decline, you'd swear that one day it will simply disappear.

quote:
Mysticisim is usually cited as a sign post for decline / comming declin. I don't see why the religions of today won't be the mysticisim of the future.

I don't agree with a ban but I do think it's a good idea to be civil and to avoid provocation for provocations sake.


Don't you see something as drastic as a gag order a step towards mysticism? Maybe even a gigantic leap? This is agenda-based censorship. Not merely a deference for the sake of peace and order (yeah right), but a supposedly enforceable edict on saying things. I agree that it should not be in a nation's stated interest to combat religions with military force, but suddenly insult is outlawed?

As a Pastafarian, it is well within my religious right - no, duty - to slight people of other older, more established religions. The UN is suppressing my particular right to practice my religion, thus insulting me!


Posted by haqq on Feb-17-2009 01:36:

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Originally posted by Aortik


What would [is?] so bad about a Jewish dominion? They'd turn the world into some pluralist, economic powerhouse, oh nooooo.


Maybe their following their on schedule as opposed as the greater good for United States. And maybe I am one of those conspiracy freaks! But I wouldn't be surprised if the attacks by the 9/11 were a mastermind of the Jewish community.

Wait... stop... Before your brainwashed-brain goes all out.

Think of what happened after 9/11 it was a decline of a religion, people, and region that did not have the greatest ties with the Jewish population. Not lets look back since when the Estev�nico of Azamor entered within the 1500's to the great country of United States was their any issues with Muslims/Arabs/"Terrorist" in the US? Never! The Muslims and Americans co-existed peacefully with no labels being thrown around and no media to propagate the masses.

Now it has changed drastically. The Media is what people follow - no one has the IQ of a squirrel to maybe think "hey maybe we should read a book and do our own non-poisoned research" and to add-on who is the media controlled by? And I'm talking about, TimeWarner, Disney, Viacom, NBC, Fox and more... you guessed it, its not Gentiles.

As I end my post I can only say, FREE YOUR MIND. Not through trance like some fanatics on this board say. But by knowledge, as the great Malcolm X said... "knowledge is power."


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Feb-17-2009 01:42:

quote:
Originally posted by haqq
Maybe their following their on schedule as opposed as the greater good for United States. And maybe I am one of those conspiracy freaks! But I wouldn't be surprised if the attacks by the 9/11 were a mastermind of the Jewish community.

Wait... stop... Before your brainwashed-brain goes all out.

Think of what happened after 9/11 it was a decline of a religion, people, and region that did not have the greatest ties with the Jewish population. Not lets look back since when the Estev�nico of Azamor entered within the 1500's to the great country of United States was their any issues with Muslims/Arabs/"Terrorist" in the US? Never! The Muslims and Americans co-existed peacefully with no labels being thrown around and no media to propagate the masses.

Now it has changed drastically. The Media is what people follow - no one has the IQ of a squirrel to maybe think "hey maybe we should read a book and do our own non-poisoned research" and to add-on who is the media controlled by? And I'm talking about, TimeWarner, Disney, Viacom, NBC, Fox and more... you guessed it, its not Gentiles.

As I end my post I can only say, FREE YOUR MIND. Not through trance like some fanatics on this board say. But by knowledge, as the great Malcolm X said... "knowledge is power."


if knowledge really is power then it looks like youre fucking defenceless.

yeah, 911 was a jewish conspiracy. fuckhead.


Posted by haqq on Feb-17-2009 02:00:

Let me ask you this when was the last time when United States and Israel did not support eachother? Prior to President Kennedy, there was NO support for Israel. In fact, President Kennedy was the last president to stand up against giving Israel the bomb, or financial support. And what happened to him?

On the day of the 9-11 attacks, former Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu was asked what the attacks would mean for US-Israeli relations. His quick reply was: "It's very good��.Well, it's not good, but it will generate immediate sympathy (for Israel)"

And also why did 4000 Jews get sick-leave just before the bombing?


And for the love of god dont reply with your one-liners its useless. You just make yourself look stupid to retaliate... Cursing at someone does not make you a smarter person but rather look like a complete low IQ idiot.


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Feb-17-2009 02:01:

fuckhead.


Posted by haqq on Feb-17-2009 04:39:

quote:
Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
fuckhead.


I love the MODs of this forum... Great job guys!


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Feb-17-2009 04:56:

yet you don't seem to be bothered by their tendency to accept ignorant, paranoid liars like yourself spreading your filth and posting obvious nonsense. yeah, 4000 jews were in on 911!

grow up little boy.


Posted by haqq on Feb-17-2009 05:00:

Well you seem to already accept the filth and lies that come from watching TV... So your pretty much at the point now where the propaganda has effected you so much you're like a robot. Or you're just a Jew?


Posted by Krypton on Feb-17-2009 05:01:

quote:
Originally posted by haqq
Let me ask you this when was the last time when United States and Israel did not support eachother? Prior to President Kennedy, there was NO support for Israel. In fact, President Kennedy was the last president to stand up against giving Israel the bomb, or financial support. And what happened to him?

On the day of the 9-11 attacks, former Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu was asked what the attacks would mean for US-Israeli relations. His quick reply was: "It's very good��.Well, it's not good, but it will generate immediate sympathy (for Israel)"

And also why did 4000 Jews get sick-leave just before the bombing?


And for the love of god dont reply with your one-liners its useless. You just make yourself look stupid to retaliate... Cursing at someone does not make you a smarter person but rather look like a complete low IQ idiot.


Hundreds of Jews died on 911. You have absolutely no evidence of a Jewish conspiracy, and further, you are just as rotten as the other conspiracy nutjobs on this board. I am a staunch anti-Zionist but even I don't believe in this bullshit.


Posted by haqq on Feb-17-2009 05:03:

Well I dont agree that the Muslims were behind it either... Agree to disagree?


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Feb-17-2009 05:05:

quote:
Originally posted by haqq
Well you seem to already accept the filth and lies that come from watching TV... So your pretty much at the point now where the propaganda has effected you so much you're like a robot.


firstly, its "affected" you incredibly educated young squirt. i guess prisonplanet and zeitgeist and loose change didn't teach you the proper usage of words, huh?

quote:
Originally posted by haqq
Or you're just a Jew?


yeah man, im the biggest jew ever. interesting to note exactly how your brain functions!


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Feb-17-2009 05:06:

quote:
Originally posted by haqq
Well I dont agree that the Muslims were behind it either... Agree to disagree?


sure, we agree that you've lost your tenuous grip on reality and havent the first fucking clue what you're talking about.


Posted by Krypton on Feb-17-2009 05:07:

quote:
Originally posted by haqq
Well I dont agree that the Muslims were behind it either... Agree to disagree?


I'm guessing you'r also a holocaust denier....


Posted by jerZ07002 on Feb-17-2009 05:14:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,62151,00.html

without even searching too intensely i spotted a whole bunch of jewish names. There were too many law firms, and securities firms in the WTC for jewish people to be unharmed.


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Feb-17-2009 05:18:

jerZ07002, stop ruining this thread with your reality stick dammit!


Posted by haqq on Feb-17-2009 05:22:

quote:
Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
firstly, its "affected" you incredibly educated young squirt. i guess prisonplanet and zeitgeist and loose change didn't teach you the proper usage of words, huh?


I'm sorry Grammar Nazi!

quote:
Originally posted by Krypton
I'm guessing you'r also a holocaust denier....


Well I wouldn't say a denier but the numbers have a few too many O's


Posted by haqq on Feb-17-2009 05:23:

quote:
Originally posted by jerZ07002
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,62151,00.html

without even searching too intensely i spotted a whole bunch of jewish names. There were too many law firms, and securities firms in the WTC for jewish people to be unharmed.


Oh cool me too. Point...?


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