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Originally posted by wotyzoid I would play it out for the sake of a reaction. It has a decent bassline, a groovy percussion, it's put together in a way that most people would dance. Fuck it, why not? I'm not saying it's my cup of tea either or that I think it's inspired and imaginative, but I'd bet the crow I play to would enjoy it.

yeah and i bet that if a girl stripped down naked and begged for dicks the crowd would enjoy that too

And you know everybody loves T-Pain vox

this wouldnt work at any of the parties i play at..



maybe if i snuck in a bit of it during a middle of a set just to see how people react lol, certianly wouldnt play the full track.

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Originally posted by Clovis Jesus christ dude. What exactly is it that I would need to do for you to understand that those two words are not the sum of my music taste? Do you want a laundry list of examples of music I like? Is any of this glitchy minimal/techno? (all recent beatport purchases) Guillaume & The Coutu Dumonts - Strange Place Of Mind [Raum...Musik] Oasis - Oasis Nine [FXHE] The Mole - There's Hope [Internasjonal] Till Von Sein - Hive [Morris Audio] Free Blood - Never Hear Surf Music Again (Barfly Remix) [DFA] Polar Lights - Silver Hord [Multi Vitamins] Chris Carrier - Living Here [Robsoul] Rockford Inc. - Mina's Theme [Funkhaus Music] Chelonis R. Jones - Rehabilitation (Markus Fix Remix) [Systematic] Frank Roger - Don't Leave Me [Earthrumental] Kreon - Drum My Scene [Robsoul] Sensitiva - Viola Tricolor (Secretsundaze Remix) [secretsundaze] X-District, Jimmy Edgar - Color Correction (LoSoul's Land of 1000 Dubs Mix) [playhouse] Robert Dietz - The Sorrow [Deep Vibes] Marlow - Exposed (Five Four Three Version) [moon harbour] Lee Curtiss - And Counting [Wolf + Lamb] You're not gonna listen to any of these anyway, but PETRAN can use the list, I consider these to all have some kind of longevity beyond playing them out once or twice...

Yeah, i define "longetivity" in the same way as you.


Now that was an interesting list, tell you the truth, i didn't know any of those artists (lol) but i was pleasantly surprised by the fact that i didn't find the usual glitch-techno sound for each one of these releases ( i also have associated this specific sound with your dj-sets)but some "True" (thats how i like to call it) deep and techy stuff. I really liked Guillame and the Coutu Dumonts (now thats a name...) because they brought to mind that older deep n twisted Terry Francis/Jay Tripwire tech-house i used to love and dj back in 2002. "Hallelujah Yeah" was funky as fuck and "They Only Come Out At Night" was very deep and atmospheric, reminding of early Silicone Soul. The Mole was also a very interesting deep/tech house artist, some really nice tunes. "Silver Hord" also had a nice IDM-offbeat feel to it, "Mina's Theme" is a typically nice a-la Terry Lee Brown Jr. deep/tech-houser (but getting a bit more twisted) and so is Chris Carrier (although i saw that he has some variety to his tunes). Both the name and the deep/dubby/twisted style of Robert Dietz brough to mind David Duriez-another classic tech-house artist-and i really love that style in the dance-floor.



Thanks for the modern tech-house recommendations, some of that stuff were really nice.


Truth to be told though, i personally can't see why any of those tracks have more longetivity than that trashy-tune of the thread-title. On the contrary, the dumb brainless punters could scream for more "afghanistan" and instantly forget about any of those tracks at the very moment they get mixed to the next one lol. Truth is, that style of music was never meant to have longetivity anyway, its pure dance-floor music, its not meant to stay as a piece of art. The fact that most of those tracks recycle older ideas doesn't help either. Everybody can learn about Mr. C and terry Francis (and Timewriter etc.)if he makes a google-search on deep and tech-house, the bad news is that nobody will ever remember anything about those modern artists in about 2-3 years time (probably much earlier)...probably even djs themselves since they could easily find similar substitutes. Despite that, this is pure dance-floor music and it can shake and control your body in all sorts of ways!

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Originally posted by Clovis And you know everybody loves T-Pain vox

Every competent DJ must have at least two or three T-Pain acapellas in his arsenal.

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Originally posted by wotyzoid I would play it out for the sake of a reaction. It has a decent bassline, a groovy percussion, it's put together in a way that most people would dance. Fuck it, why not? I'm not saying it's my cup of tea either or that I think it's inspired and imaginative, but I'd bet the crow I play to would enjoy it.

It's a perfect funk ball tune.

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Originally posted by nefardec yeah and i bet that if a girl stripped down naked and begged for dicks the crowd would enjoy that too

You're such an elitist critic sometimes.


All I'm saying is that a lot of us here are so quick to judge any new stuff that comes out and that it just becomes this robotic response only taking our tastes into consideration. Yeah, the track is gimmicky, unimaginative, bland. But it's as bouncy as any prydz track out there and I would bet it would get a dancefloor going especially the ones I play at. This constant struggle against mediocrity has to have it's balance with the things we know will work in our situations as well.

Do I like the track? No. Do I see a crowd I usually play to going nuts over it? Yes. Why not play it then?

Sometimes being a DJ is not just about playing what you like but taking the crowd into consideration.


This was my argument all along, some of you might have misunderstood.

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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles Every competent DJ must have at least two or three T-Pain acapellas in his arsenal.

Or a cheap vocoder and a mic.

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Originally posted by PETRAN Yeah, i define "longetivity" in the same way as you. Now that was an interesting list, tell you the truth, i didn't know any of those artists (lol) but i was pleasantly surprised by the fact that i didn't find the usual glitch-techno sound for each one of these releases ( i also have associated this specific sound with your dj-sets)but some "True" (thats how i like to call it) deep and techy stuff. I really liked Guillame and the Coutu Dumonts (now thats a name...) because they brought to mind that older deep n twisted Terry Francis/Jay Tripwire tech-house i used to love and dj back in 2002. "Hallelujah Yeah" was funky as fuck and "They Only Come Out At Night" was very deep and atmospheric, reminding of early Silicone Soul. The Mole was also a very interesting deep/tech house artist, some really nice tunes. "Silver Hord" also had a nice IDM-offbeat feel to it, "Mina's Theme" is a typically nice a-la Terry Lee Brown Jr. deep/tech-houser (but getting a bit more twisted) and so is Chris Carrier (although i saw that he has some variety to his tunes). Both the name and the deep/dubby/twisted style of Robert Dietz brough to mind David Duriez-another classic tech-house artist-and i really love that style in the dance-floor. Thanks for the modern tech-house recommendations, some of that stuff were really nice. Truth to be told though, i personally can't see why any of those tracks have more longetivity than that trashy-tune of the thread-title. On the contrary, the dumb brainless punters could scream for more "afghanistan" and instantly forget about any of those tracks at the very moment they get mixed to the next one lol. Truth is, that style of music was never meant to have longetivity anyway, its pure dance-floor music, its not meant to stay as a piece of art. The fact that most of those tracks recycle older ideas doesn't help either. Everybody can learn about Mr. C and terry Francis (and Timewriter etc.)if he makes a google-search on deep and tech-house, the bad news is that nobody will ever remember anything about those modern artists in about 2-3 years time (probably much earlier)...probably even djs themselves since they could easily find similar substitutes. Despite that, this is pure dance-floor music and it can shake and control your body in all sorts of ways!

These "modern artists" in many cases have been making music for just as long. Glad you enjoyed most of it, thats what I really like right now.

As for "dumb brainless punters", they are thankfully not my audience, though I'm willing to bet a lot of them would like the music I play just the same.

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Originally posted by Clovis As for "dumb brainless punters", they are thankfully not my audience, though I'm willing to bet a lot of them would like the music I play just the same.

Lucky you, hopefully I'll be in the same situation soon. About to get a weekly at a restaurant/bar playing some deep shit.

And I'm willing to bet otherwise (I have an idea of what you play). Last time I cleared a dancefloor was with Lerosa - Mataphor. Think guidos. Only shit that works is Alex Smoke and Maetrik.

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Originally posted by wotyzoid You're such an elitist critic sometimes.

well most of it is just my sense of humor, but I never saw the need to dumb down a dj set. dance music is dance music.

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Originally posted by nefardec dance music is dance music.

I can't possibly see it this simply after the experiences I've had.

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Originally posted by wotyzoid I can't possibly see it this simply after the experiences I've had.

lol i don't know what to say. people will dance to anything with a good beat, basically, when the volume is right. i mean granted you have to read the energy level and the pace of a set, but I don't have to play madonna at a frat party to get a good reaction.

unless you're dealing with assholes, trainspotters, and miserable people.

with any party, the key is good-natured, fun-loving people

If you ever want to get a good reaction at a good dance party, play Matthew Styles - We Said Nothing followed directly by Michel Dey Hey - Compound. works every time. Then you can follow that up with guillaume & the coutu dumonts - 'sous l'arbe' for a little wild reverie and a cool down after that jacking nonsense and then pick it right back up again with something else.

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Originally posted by nefardec lol i don't know what to say. people will dance to anything with a good beat, basically, when the volume is right. i mean granted you have to read the energy level and the pace of a set, but I don't have to play madonna at a frat party to get a good reaction. unless you're dealing with assholes, trainspotters, and miserable people. with any party, the key is good-natured, fun-loving people If you ever want to get a good reaction at a good dance party, play Matthew Styles - We Said Nothing followed directly by Michel Dey Hey - Compound. works every time. Then you can follow that up with guillaume & the coutu dumonts - 'sous l'arbe' for a little wild reverie and a cool down after that jacking nonsense and then pick it right back up again with something else.

You're so wrong it's not even funny.

Try playing a gig outside of a club or your wanky little architect-freelance-graphic-designer-fashion-loving-so-underground-it-hurts clique. Even a track you consider relatively accessible and crowd-friendly will be met with groans of "can you play something with vocals?", "can you play a track I know?" and "have you got an Daft Punk?" I'm not referring to the horrible frat party situation where the crowd wants RnB either. Most of the house parties I've played have been populated with people who hit up decent techno clubs pretty regularly.

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Originally posted by Domesticated You're so wrong it's not even funny. Try playing a gig outside of a club or your wanky little architect-freelance-graphic-designer-fashion-loving-so-underground-it-hurts clique. Even a track you consider relatively accessible and crowd-friendly will be met with groans of "can you play something with vocals?", "can you play a track I know?" and "have you got an Daft Punk?" I'm not referring to the horrible frat party situation where the crowd wants RnB either. Most of the house parties I've played have been populated with people who hit up decent techno clubs pretty regularly.

calm down please.

i wish i had a clique like the one you describe, but unfortunately i play for really normal people. most of the regulars at my weekly last fall for instance never would even listen to dance music outside of that space.

i definitely have got every quote you listed there and worse at my gigs, but it's only from a few people in a crowd of 50-700. These people have another beer and then get busy on the floor trying to get laid again. No one really cares that much. Usually they say something like "play something everybody wants to dance to" while everybody is dancing except for them lol


you make it sound like it's so hard. people who want to party will party. once they've had enough to drink it gets really easy

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Originally posted by Domesticated You're so wrong it's not even funny. Try playing a gig outside of a club or your wanky little architect-freelance-graphic-designer-fashion-loving-so-underground-it-hurts clique. Even a track you consider relatively accessible and crowd-friendly will be met with groans of "can you play something with vocals?", "can you play a track I know?" and "have you got an Daft Punk?" I'm not referring to the horrible frat party situation where the crowd wants RnB either. Most of the house parties I've played have been populated with people who hit up decent techno clubs pretty regularly.

hey listen man you have insulted my friend here and to make things worse your point does not even come close to being cohesive. it is your decision to play at those parties, one should never be so hungry to 'play out'. i have never ever had to sell my soul playing anything outside my case and i've played alongside a few good men.

what i've learned during my short years on the circuit is that you don't judge a dj by their crowd or preference of crowd, you judge a dj by how he is able to fit in any situation without sacrificing their sound.

To be honest I would probably enjoy this in a club if it was my first time hearing it. But, like Clovis said, it's disposable.

Meh. Seemed to hold some potential in the early goings, but petered out towards the end with meandering pointlessness. Sounds like they either didn't know what to do with the tune, or just went with a standard dance-track arrangement and called it a day.

love this song. thanks for posting op

I think it's the DJs that can get sober people dancing that really have the talent lol.

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Originally posted by nefardec No one really cares that much. Usually they say something like "play something everybody wants to dance to" while everybody is dancing except for them lol you make it sound like it's so hard. people who want to party will party. once they've had enough to drink it gets really easy

For the most part true. It all depends on who is there and the situation overall.

the cassette lads are quite the solid producers, and I generally agree with the comments here, afghanistan and vietnam are good for a few listens and then disposable...

the komytea releases are going down hill tho... professional killers > 7/9 > afghanistan/vietnam

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Originally posted by Leon o shid!

I realized the tune sounds super awesome only if you look at this gif while the bassline plays

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Originally posted by Leon I realized the tune sounds super awesome only if you look at this gif while the bassline plays

jahahah walkin down da street.

but anyway, i'm a huge fan of komytea. this is a nice tune, not one of their best (as Soldiers of Karkadu EP has been mentioned) but I like it.

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Originally posted by Clovis I don't know why it's an argument because it boils down to personal preference. As for the LoSoul tune, it was more an example of "glitchy minimal/techno" for Nostalgic.

Sorry Clovis, but you do tend to turn a lot of things into an argument when It comes to threads like this one.

Just something i've observed.

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