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Posted by Rememberence_ on Feb-20-2009 02:42:

Slow down to 20mph under the limit or less, or move over. That's the law from what I remember. I'm aware of it cos when the law was passed everyone and their grandma was talking about it, emailing it, etc. Sorry to hear it though Carlos.


Posted by Matthias on Feb-20-2009 03:27:

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Cops on your ass...

quote:
Originally posted by Carlos Pereira
give me a call jotz.


I would but the pre-paid phone I got doesnt give shit for minutes on the $10 cards. :/


Posted by Leon on Feb-20-2009 04:39:

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"the reason I pulled you over was because you failed to avoid passing an emergency vehicle".



HAAAAAAAAAHAHAHA i rofl'd

the same shit happened here. it's a new way to generate revenue for the state

I was with my family driving through some bullshit redneck state and the same thing happened. we slowed the hell down and then a cop behind the other cop who pulled a fella over started tagging us down. We weren't even from that state, and yes, we were just as suprised...


Posted by Zild on Feb-20-2009 14:05:

When I was driving to El Paso the other day a trooper followed me for about 30 minutes. I started to run out of fuel, so I started to look for a gas station. About 10 minutes later I see one and exit. He follows me through the exit and into the gas station where he circles around the parking lot a few times before leaving. I was going to show him my cock, but he left early...


Posted by ryan3243 on Feb-20-2009 14:11:

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Originally posted by Matthias
This is where my advice comes in:

http://www.davidsprecher.com/
For $100 your tickets will get dismissed. All of mine were.


i'm adding them to my phone book. always good to have the number of a lawyer in there.


Posted by Zild on Feb-20-2009 14:25:

Hell yea. I always walk into court with a 'team' of lawyers. That shit works.


Posted by Zeonfiend on Feb-20-2009 14:45:

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Originally posted by Zild
When I was driving to El Paso the other day a trooper followed me for about 30 minutes. I started to run out of fuel, so I started to look for a gas station. About 10 minutes later I see one and exit. He follows me through the exit and into the gas station where he circles around the parking lot a few times before leaving. I was going to show him my cock, but he left early...


Yeah, but you do that to all of your stalkers. He probably sees several dozen a day.


Posted by jonas on Feb-20-2009 14:47:

Matthias is right. If this was a Muniipal cop, you should ask for a trial by jury. This law is subjective and arbitrary, at best. His interpretation of the law, the law itself and the jury's understanding of what the law states could most likely work in your favor.

There are many laws that are enforced like this that people just go along with.

Ask these questions at the trial. "If, travelling at 57mph on the freeway, has put the officer at risk, what speed does the law suggest I stay under?" "What is the required distance, by law, that I must remain from the officer and his cruiser, which is parked in the service lane?" "The ticket states the violation to be 'passing an emergency vehicle'. If I am required to slow the vehicle dramatically when an officer stops, do I not run a greater risk of creating an even more dangerous scenario involving other motorists?"

The bottom line is part of field training is learning how to properly issue citations and put yourself in the safest position to do so. That is why you see DPS troopers walk up to the passenger side window on busy thoroughfairs. Muni cops get this training too. This is nothing more that the city/county siezing an opportunity to take advantage of a law that is debatable.

You can fight this. Chances are the officer won't even show. I hated going to court when I was an officer. It's usually on your day off and you don't get paid for it.


Posted by Carlos Pereira on Feb-20-2009 14:52:

quote:
Originally posted by jonas
Matthias is right. If this was a Muniipal cop, you should ask for a trial by jury. This law is subjective and arbitrary, at best. His interpretation of the law, the law itself and the jury's understanding of what the law states could most likely work in your favor.

There are many laws that are enforced like this that people just go along with.

Ask these questions at the trial. "If, travelling at 57mph on the freeway, has put the officer at risk, what speed does the law suggest I stay under?" "What is the required distance, by law, that I must remain from the officer and his cruiser, which is parked in the service lane?" "The ticket states the violation to be 'passing an emergency vehicle'. If I am required to slow the vehicle dramatically when an officer stops, do I not run a greater risk of creating an even more dangerous scenario involving other motorists?"

The bottom line is part of field training is learning how to properly issue citations and put yourself in the safest position to do so. That is why you see DPS troopers walk up to the passenger side window on busy thoroughfairs.

You can fight this. Chances are the officer won't even show. I hated going to court when I was an officer. It's usually on your day off and you don't get paid for it.


Was waitin' on Officer Jones' response

I'll go ahead and do that then....sounds like the thing to do. So I take it this "Constable" that pulled me over is considered a municipal officer?


Posted by jonas on Feb-20-2009 14:53:

quote:
Originally posted by Rememberence_
Slow down to 20mph under the limit or less, or move over. That's the law from what I remember. I'm aware of it cos when the law was passed everyone and their grandma was talking about it, emailing it, etc. Sorry to hear it though Carlos.



I don't think the law in it's current form states a speed limit.


Posted by jonas on Feb-20-2009 14:56:

quote:
Originally posted by Carlos Pereira
Was waitin' on Officer Jones' response

I'll go ahead and do that then....sounds like the thing to do. So I take it this "Constable" that pulled me over is considered a municipal officer?


It was a constable??? Oh shit, then definitely go to court. Those jack asses have that badge because they couldn't pass their civil service exams. They usually barely pass their level one TCLEOS cert and have a buddy that won the county constable election. That's how they get the job.


Posted by Zild on Feb-20-2009 15:04:

quote:
Originally posted by jonas
It was a constable??? Oh shit, then definitely go to court. Those jack asses have that badge because they couldn't pass their civil service exams. They usually barely pass their level one TCLEOS cert and have a buddy that won the county constable election. That's how they get the job.



That's fucking hilarious! Yeah I give constables no respect either, but usually they don't really take their job seriously in the first place.


Posted by jonas on Feb-20-2009 15:09:

quote:
Originally posted by Zild
That's fucking hilarious! Yeah I give constables no respect either, but usually they don't really take their job seriously in the first place.


Sadly, those guys usually make more than city or county law enforcement (Muni's, Deputies) because the constable sets the salary out of his annual budget. Fucking ridiculous.


Posted by Carlos Pereira on Feb-20-2009 15:15:

quote:
Originally posted by jonas
It was a constable??? Oh shit, then definitely go to court. Those jack asses have that badge because they couldn't pass their civil service exams. They usually barely pass their level one TCLEOS cert and have a buddy that won the county constable election. That's how they get the job.


LOL! Yea my friend Brittany said the same thing but I couldn't really understand the first time. This lady that pulled me over looked like a) she didn't know wtf she was talking about, b) looked like she had JUST gotten out of the academy, c) needed to get a subscription to jenny craig.


Posted by Zild on Feb-20-2009 15:16:

quote:
Originally posted by jonas
Sadly, those guys usually make more than city or county law enforcement (Muni's, Deputies) because the constable sets the salary out of his annual budget. Fucking ridiculous.


Wow that's just fucking pathetic!


Posted by Carlos Pereira on Feb-20-2009 15:18:

quote:
Originally posted by jonas
Sadly, those guys usually make more than city or county law enforcement (Muni's, Deputies) because the constable sets the salary out of his annual budget. Fucking ridiculous.


Steve, I got a separate neon-green-lookin' piece of paper that states the fees for the tickets....however on the top there's a stamp in red that says "DSC fine as of 1/1/09, $110".

What the hell's a DSC, and is this something that I have to pay aside from anything? been trying to google it and no luck, unless it's the "Defensive Safety Course" but that's not really considered a fine, unless I'm missing something.


Posted by jonas on Feb-20-2009 15:30:

Probably is Driver Safety Course and the amount is the court fee. They probably increased the fee and didn't want to reprint new fee schedules.


Posted by Rememberence_ on Feb-20-2009 16:45:

damn, what an awesome support group we've got here


Posted by jonas on Feb-20-2009 16:58:

quote:
Originally posted by Rememberence_
damn, what an awesome support group we've got here


Shut up Packer.


Posted by Rememberence_ on Feb-20-2009 17:32:

quote:
Originally posted by jonas
Shut up Packer.


sorry to hear about your breakup with Dave, but I'm not interested


Posted by Zeonfiend on Feb-20-2009 18:13:

quote:
Originally posted by Rememberence_
sorry to hear about your breakup with Dave, but I'm not interested


QFT. There's groups for that shit, Jonas.


Posted by Ph03n1x on Feb-20-2009 18:56:

Texas Transportation Code - Section 545.157. Passing Authorized Emergency Vehicle


� 545.157. PASSING AUTHORIZED EMERGENCY VEHICLE. (a) On
approaching a stationary authorized emergency vehicle using visual
signals that meet the requirements of Sections 547.305 and 547.702,
an operator, unless otherwise directed by a police officer, shall:
(1) vacate the lane closest to the emergency vehicle
when driving on a highway with two or more lanes traveling in the
direction of the emergency vehicle; or
(2) slow to a speed not to exceed:
(A) 20 miles per hour less than the posted speed
limit when the posted speed limit is 25 miles per hour or more; or
(B) five miles per hour when the posted speed
limit is less than 25 miles per hour.
(b) A violation of this section is:
(1) a misdemeanor punishable under Section 542.401;
(2) a misdemeanor punishable by a fine of $500 if the
violation results in property damage; or
(3) a Class B misdemeanor if the violation results in
bodily injury.
(c) If conduct constituting an offense under this section
also constitutes an offense under another section of this code or
the Penal Code, the actor may be prosecuted under either section or
under both sections.

Added by Acts 2003, 78th Leg., ch. 327, � 2, eff. Sept. 1, 2003.


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