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because thinking that you can produce quality music on-the-fly is a big FAIL

you most of those who play bleep-bloop shit via Disableton and a bunch of midi knobs are fucking morons (Sasha included)

ok, but a laptop doesnt have to do be used for THAT, it can be used just to spin same way a cdj can and... costs about as much as an mk3...

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Originally posted by Imagin We will always have vinyl. But the digital side of things (CDs) will be a dead format in the next 5 years. Same fate awaits DVD/Blu-Ray. Everything will go to hard drives and downloads. Djs and true music connoisseurs will never let companies stop producing vinyl versions though.

I'm not sure I think you will always need something physical for DJing, probably not video and theres so many CD models being produced, maybe in the far future.

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Originally posted by Leniu By 'skill' i basically meant the craftsmanship of using ur ears to cue and beatmatch correctly, theres obviosuly much more to DJing than just that, which actually is my very point.... Why hate on laptop DJs? a laptop can emulate exactly what a cdj or tt does and can do much more than just that, so if anything they only open new opporutnities for DJs, why the constant ridicule?

Not really....
And I'd much rather be putting vinyls in the turntables, or CD's in a cdj rather than clicking around on the computer...

Doesnt seem as fun

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Originally posted by MiguelD 80 year old tiesto (30 years in a row #1 dj of djmag), ASOT reaching its 20,000th episode...armin vs tiesto lawsuit for patent jesus pose, Sasha`s brain directly hooked up to the speakers (no need for gear), pioneer shortage of gear (eddie halliwell ate them all) hiphop wins...

ROFFFLLL!

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Originally posted by boris_the_bear because thinking that you can produce quality music on-the-fly is a big FAIL you most of those who play bleep-bloop shit via Disableton and a bunch of midi knobs are fucking morons (Sasha included)

^^^^Moron!

There is no such thing as a purist in these days any longer. Just idiots. This is coming from someone who does NOT use ableton or traktor, etc.

Fuck man let people make what they want how they want to make it and gtfo.

You don't have to use it or whatever but stop being a fucking hater you ignorant bastard

Everything is not black and white and believe it or not some people will believe differently than you on things in life. There is no right thing to do in music. The result is the only thing that matters.

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Originally posted by mfitterer1 ^^^^Moron! There is no such thing as a purist in these days any longer. Just idiots. This is coming from someone who does NOT use ableton or traktor, etc. Fuck man let people make what they want how they want to make it and gtfo. You don't have to use it or whatever but stop being a fucking hater you ignorant bastard Everything is not black and white and believe it or not some people will believe differently than you on things in life. There is no right thing to do in music. The result is the only thing that matters.

i agree. If you make the end result amazing. Who cares how you did it. I definitely have more respect for somebody who beat matches without the sync etc. they obviously have more skills. If i had the money and space i would get Pioneer CDJs in a heartbeat. However, I am stuck with a Xponent, Torq, and the Macbook Pro...

beatmatching is like learning to ride a bike tho. once you know it, you might as well be using a "sync" button, whats the difference

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Originally posted by Leniu beatmatching is like learning to ride a bike tho. once you know it, you might as well be using a "sync" button, whats the difference

So lets say you learn how to drive a car. you love it and get really good at it. If you have access to a chauffeur, aka sync button, are you going give up driving because there is an easier way?

Anybody who can beatmatch can hit a sync button. Somebody who can't beatmatch can only hit a sync button.

I have more respect for somebody who is working harder to accomplish a task. Its more fun and makes it more challenging. That's the difference!

imagine if this board was around in the 60's

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Originally posted by jupiterone imagine if those board was around in the 60's

a lot of fat 50-60 year olds in their mom's basement

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Originally posted by mfitterer1 There is no such thing as a purist in these days any longer. Just idiots. This is coming from someone who does NOT use ableton or traktor, etc.

but I had Serato for 1,5 years and before that I used Traktor...

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Originally posted by boris_the_bear Disableton

How did you get to be so clever?

you people can keep your modern technology...what u know about 8 track mixing!!!!

i think vinyl will come back in... its superior quality to any digital format

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Originally posted by boris_the_bear because thinking that you can produce quality music on-the-fly is a big FAIL you most of those who play bleep-bloop shit via Disableton and a bunch of midi knobs are fucking morons (Sasha included)

Yeah righto noob. I still use vinyl as it really sounds better and ableton because you can blow peoples heads off with it when used well. Each to their own, some tunes only get vinyl release which is really no biggie to convert to digital but digital only releases aren't cheap to press to vinyl, but that's where cdj's come in if you really can't stand laptops. I really can't see any formats disappearing.

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Originally posted by archaudio So lets say you learn how to drive a car. you love it and get really good at it. If you have access to a chauffeur, aka sync button, are you going give up driving because there is an easier way? Anybody who can beatmatch can hit a sync button. Somebody who can't beatmatch can only hit a sync button. I have more respect for somebody who is working harder to accomplish a task. Its more fun and makes it more challenging. That's the difference!

Great analogy, but you realize that the only person it makes a difference to is the driver/dj? So basically you're saying it's less 'fun' for the dj. So it's a matter of preference with no effect on anyone other than the driver.

As for the "respect for someone working harder to accomplish a task": it makes me think of those kinetic visual artists that paint by flinging buckets of paint/object covered with paint/theirselves at a canvas... sure they're working harder, but in the end it's just a muddy pile of paint on the canvas. Point being, just because you work hard to make it doesn't mean it's not crap, and in the end it's all about whats coming out of the speakers.

Overall, I think this whole meduim thing only applies to people who go to a club to watch a dj on stage.

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Originally posted by woscar How did you get to be so clever?

ask god

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Originally posted by Gen3r4l1ty Overall, I think this whole meduim thing only applies to people who go to a club to watch a dj on stage.

would you be ok if there were no DJ in sight at all in a club? like in restaurants and pizza cafes..

Future of DJing lies in jars of marmalade and empty, plastic, 1 gallon jugs.

Invest now.

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Originally posted by boris_the_bear would you be ok if there were no DJ in sight at all in a club? like in restaurants and pizza cafes..

Absolutely. A little club I used to visit in college had the dj basically in a closet with a tiny little window that opened to the dancefloor. I think it's totally possible to enjoy a dj without seeing their jesus pose.

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Originally posted by Gen3r4l1ty I think it's totally possible to enjoy a dj without seeing their jesus pose.

i wasn't talking about jesus poses gosh. it's just that.... oh well.... nevermind

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Originally posted by boris_the_bear would you be ok if there were no DJ in sight at all in a club? like in restaurants and pizza cafes..

Totally agree with this. Generally, DJ's really aren't that exciting to watch imo, however there are a few exceptions.

What do you guys think. My turntable just broke. Do I get a tech 12 to go with my current, which I run serato, or do I get a cdj 200 and do a mix of Vinyl and CD with serato

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Originally posted by boris_the_bear ask god would you be ok if there were no DJ in sight at all in a club? like in restaurants and pizza cafes..

I like to dance facing the other way at clubs. Particularly with girls.

WHATEVER WORKS!

Technology is always changing and growing, so it's whatever the dj is comfortable with.

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