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Posted by I_Am_Vince on Mar-07-2009 19:04:

quote:
Originally posted by El K Dee
those who read the comic and watched it, did they put in the comic strip by Shea (the whole pirate/lost at sea thing)


they only mentioned like a line or two about pirates in the movie.


Posted by Porky on Mar-07-2009 19:21:

quote:
Originally posted by El K Dee
those who read the comic and watched it, did they put in the comic strip by Shea (the whole pirate/lost at sea thing)


Can someone explain what the Black Freighter is supposed to represent? Why do we see Shea pop up randomly throughout the comic (eg. Him approaching Nite Owl directly)


Posted by Spam on Mar-07-2009 19:25:

Like every other movie that follows the Sin City/300 style, The Watchmen is a long, boring movie with neat camera angles and cool visuals.

The script was pure cheese, but given that it's taken directly out of a comic book, that doesn't surprise me one bit. My favourite moment was at the end of the movie, before the end of the sentence when the chick's mom was like 'I couldn't be mad at him...' half the theater filled in "because he gave me you" and let out a great big groan when that's exactly what she said.


Posted by Porky on Mar-07-2009 19:34:

quote:
Originally posted by Spam
Like every other movie done by the Sin City/300 visual team,


Sin City = Robert Rodriguez/Tarantino

300 = Zach Snyder


Posted by DigiNut on Mar-07-2009 19:46:

If you need to read the book first in order to enjoy the movie then it must not be such a great movie.

Fight Club, LOTR, pretty much all of the Superman and Batman movies, Shawshank, Spiderman, Jurassic Park, the Godfather movies, Clockwork Orange - should I go on? - all of these were thoroughly enjoyable to readers and non-readers, and if you were a non-reader, they sometimes made you want to go read the book.

I haven't seen the movie yet - but these comments telling people to go read the book and then watch it again, actually make me want to see it less.


Posted by Frenchie on Mar-07-2009 19:50:

You don't have to read the book. A lot of people went and saw it without having read the book. It's the people who have seen the movie and say they hate it are the ones who SHOULD read the book or should have at least taken a peek at it and probably would have understood the movie better. People are expecting super hero's and think " well the super hero's suck". What super hero's?


Posted by Spam on Mar-07-2009 19:54:

quote:
Originally posted by love_child
short and sweet: Great adaptation. didn't live up to novel but remember: has a film ever surpassed its novel?


Lord of the Rings.

The books were good for one thing. Curing insomnia. When I read the books, I literally skipped everything past the 5th chapter and went straight to the Helm's Deep battle, and despite skipping 55% of the book, I missed NOTHING IMPORTANT in the story. Go figure.


Posted by DigiNut on Mar-07-2009 19:55:

quote:
Originally posted by Frenchie
It's the people who have seen the movie and say they hate it are the ones who SHOULD read the book or should have at least taken a peek at it and probably would have understood the movie better.

That's exactly the point though. Since when do you have to "understand" a movie? It's the movie's job to make you understand! You know, as in with a plot and character development?

The people who have seen the movie and say they hate it... hate it. End of story. The comic is irrelevant.


Posted by Spam on Mar-07-2009 19:56:

quote:
Originally posted by Frenchie
You don't have to read the book. A lot of people went and saw it without having read the book. It's the people who have seen the movie and say they hate it are the ones who SHOULD read the book or should have at least taken a peek at it and probably would have understood the movie better. People are expecting super hero's and think " well the super hero's suck". What super hero's?


It's not that we don't understand it.

It's that it's BORING, and has a cheesy script.


Posted by Frenchie on Mar-07-2009 20:01:

quote:
Originally posted by DigiNut
You know, as in with a plot and character development?

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There's a ton of that. Which is one of the reasons people 'hate' it so much. One of the main things about the movie is what MAKES the movie and people seem to not like it. Their loss.


Posted by LKD on Mar-07-2009 20:09:

throughout the comic, its just a history of each character and teh anticipation of world war three as a sideplot to Rorschach's investigation of the mask killer..thats 10 of the 12 comics..


Posted by Spam on Mar-07-2009 20:13:

quote:
Originally posted by Frenchie
There's a ton of that. Which is one of the reasons people 'hate' it so much. One of the main things about the movie is what MAKES the movie and people seem to not like it. Their loss.


There's a ton of non-sensical babbling. And plenty of flashbacks. But very little plot OR character development.

I can't even remember the character's names! Nerdy-dude, The Chick, Blue guy, Evil Captain America, etc. You know who I *DO* remember? The Comedian! You know why? He's the ONLY character we know anything about! Good character development? The only character that's even semi-developed is the DEAD one!

Edit: Rorsatch is also done well. But I totally forgot about him, so case in point.

By the end of the movie we know almost NOTHING about the main antagonist (evil captain america, for the record), and apart from knowing that the nerdy dude is a nerd, and the chick wants the blue-dude's free-hanging shlong, we know NOTHING about the other characters either.

I hope to hell that this movie isn't totally faithful to the source, otherwise there's a whole helluva lot of people who like reading lots of words, but very little story.


Posted by Silky Johnson on Mar-07-2009 20:26:

Lol, and now this thread will pan out the way every other comic book to movie thread pans out. I don't want to be involved so I'll just say it now: you're all a bunch of fags.


Posted by VERTiG0 on Mar-07-2009 20:56:

This thread rules and comic books are for children


Posted by Silky Johnson on Mar-07-2009 21:01:

People who like movies are dicks.


Posted by VERTiG0 on Mar-07-2009 21:09:

quote:
Originally posted by jennypie
People who like movies are dicks.


Yeah, I'm more of a late 70's Canadian National Film Board nature documentary guy myself

"The common loon is a majestic creature..."


Posted by Silky Johnson on Mar-07-2009 21:13:

You're a smart man, I can tell.


Posted by RobotHouse on Mar-07-2009 21:52:

quote:
Originally posted by DigiNut
If you need to read the book first in order to enjoy the movie then it must not be such a great movie.

Fight Club, LOTR, pretty much all of the Superman and Batman movies, Shawshank, Spiderman, Jurassic Park, the Godfather movies, Clockwork Orange - should I go on? - all of these were thoroughly enjoyable to readers and non-readers, and if you were a non-reader, they sometimes made you want to go read the book.

I haven't seen the movie yet - but these comments telling people to go read the book and then watch it again, actually make me want to see it less.


well the guy who wrote the comic hates the movie so add that to your logic

actually im pretty sure he hates people who read his comics too

for the "fags" - nerdy inside fag joke:


Posted by basilisk on Mar-07-2009 22:00:

I went to see it last night without prepping myself by reading the original series. I had an idea of what it was all about, however, and a friend who is absolutely nuts about it, so off we went. I really liked it, actually. Perhaps this is because I really dislike comic book movies in general? But here we have a film based around exposing superheroes as cranks, weirdos, fetishists, egomaniacs, and sociopaths. Er, this wasn't lost on anyone I hope? The movie was very subtle... lots of details to pick up on. And I like that in a film.

Sometime later I'll read the "graphic novel" and see it again for perspective.

quote:
Originally posted by Invasionmix
"I'm not locked in here with you, your locked in here with me!"


This was a great moment.


Posted by bas on Mar-07-2009 22:38:

quote:
Originally posted by RobotHouse

lol

Incorrect about him not liking it though. He said David Hayter's screenplay was "as close as I could imagine anyone getting to Watchmen". He refuses to watch it because he doesn't think anything other than his comic would do it justice.


Posted by LKD on Mar-07-2009 22:44:

quote:
Originally posted by bas
lol

Incorrect about him not liking it though. He said David Hayter's screenplay was "as close as I could imagine anyone getting to Watchmen". He refuses to watch it because he doesn't think anything other than his comic would do it justice.


Zack Snyder worked closely with Alan Moore on this so theres no way Moore could say he "hates" the movie.


Posted by magikb on Mar-07-2009 23:22:

My boyfriend loves the watchmen so I decided to surprise him and go see the movie last night.
Not only was I totally bored with it, but so was he. He anxiously waited for the movie to end and at onepoint wanted to walk out.

It was far too boring and dragged on for way too long.

Next time I'll wait to hear the reviews of a movie I have no interest in before spending 15$ per ticket to watch on IMAX!


Posted by zoogla on Mar-08-2009 04:11:

"I'm not locked in here with you...YOU'RE locked in here with ME!!"

was ok.


Posted by Dr. Z on Mar-08-2009 07:11:

here are my main beefs:

1. let's be honest, it's a comic book movie, if you had a profound message to give, you didn't have to show it with people in tights and with "superpowers"

2. the 'profound' message was that humans are eventually all vicious animals, o and that in "god's" opinion humans should be saved and are special because we are all 'unique'.

3. it's like a a kid in first year philosophy decided to write the comic book, and asked his first year physics roomate to give him physics pointers to use in the comic. please...

i'm done


Posted by VERTiG0 on Mar-08-2009 09:07:

comic books are for kids

just wanted to reiterate that


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