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Posted by Dj Minaya on Mar-09-2009 09:39:

Hmm had no idea Markus was using Ableton while playing out these days.


Posted by Philby on Mar-09-2009 09:53:

quote:
Originally posted by Dj Minaya
Hmm had no idea Markus was using Ableton while playing out these days.


it must have been just for the after party set where he was recording for the global dj broadcast. at the festival he was mixing great on the decks. domesticated, i don't know how to help you. schulz was fantastic at the festival. he played full tilting which i think is a bit of a joke but thats one average tune out of 7 hours he played in total.

you need to be less fussy or go to the doctor and get that pole out of your arse. last few times i've looked on beatport i've had to choose which tracks to buy and which to leave for next time. WHO IS BETTER? ?!?!?!


Posted by Tangil on Mar-09-2009 10:18:

Which club did you go to on Friday night?

I thought Hawtin at the after party was good, Bodzin was ok but got a bit boring as he was too predictable.

Did you ever consider going to Jazzanova on the Saturday night? It could have opened up a new area of electronic music for you.

It sounds like you were expecting too much from the Shulz show, you should have taken the whole night less seriously and just thought of it more in terms of having a fun night out with your mates.


Posted by Mr Game+Watch on Mar-09-2009 13:29:

I liked some of Schulz's earlier productions (Dakota-Swirl and Elevation-Clear Blue especially) but he's really gone downhill within the last year or two.


Posted by KiNeTiC ENeRgY on Mar-09-2009 15:12:

Maybe you prefer this Bantha Fodder:


Posted by ibizzzaaa on Mar-09-2009 17:46:

quote:
Originally posted by kitphillips
Techno is the new electro welcome to 2009. Thankfully, deep house is still OK... mostly...

Deep house may have to face the death machine next.


Posted by Monocle on Mar-09-2009 18:27:

Re: When did electronic music become so****?

quote:
Originally posted by Domesticated
On Sunday afternoon I spent two hours on beatport and listened to precisely 405 songs. I purchased one.


Really two hours?? really?? any dipshit can figure out that to listen to 405 songs in two hours, you're listening to less than 20 seconds out of every song. now fack off


Posted by enydo on Mar-09-2009 18:35:

Re: Re: When did electronic music become so****?

quote:
Originally posted by Monocle
Really two hours?? really?? any dipshit can figure out that to listen to 405 songs in two hours, you're listening to less than 20 seconds out of every song. now fack off


That's usually all I need to know if I like a song or not. If it sounds shit, I know I'm not buying it. If it sounds interesting I'll listen to it longer.


Posted by Unique2701 on Mar-09-2009 19:29:

Re: Re: Re: When did electronic music become so****?

quote:
Originally posted by enydo
That's usually all I need to know if I like a song or not. If it sounds shit, I know I'm not buying it. If it sounds interesting I'll listen to it longer.


agreed. It's pretty easy to tell when a track is shit.


Posted by Monocle on Mar-09-2009 19:41:

lol if you guys are listening to 20 seconds of every track.... you must be missing out on a lot of good ass tracks


Posted by enydo on Mar-09-2009 20:34:

How so? This type of music doesn't change much throughout the track, if I don't like the elements / composition of a song in a 20 second chunk, I can be 99% sure I wont like the rest of it.


Posted by sljiva on Mar-09-2009 23:32:

You people are listening to some awful shitty simple music if you can tell after 20 seconds if track is good or not. No wonder why dance music sucks so much these days, it's not because of producers, it's because of you...


Posted by enydo on Mar-09-2009 23:36:

Oh yes, it's definitely because of me.


Posted by Mr.Mystery on Mar-09-2009 23:37:

quote:
Originally posted by sljiva
You people are listening to some awful shitty simple music if you can tell after 20 seconds if track is good or not. No wonder why dance music sucks so much these days, it's not because of producers, it's because of you...

It really is quite easy to spot a badly produced track in 20 seconds.


Posted by Unique2701 on Mar-09-2009 23:43:

quote:
Originally posted by sljiva
You people are listening to some awful shitty simple music if you can tell after 20 seconds if track is good or not. No wonder why dance music sucks so much these days, it's not because of producers, it's because of you...


We referred to the releases on beatport, and it's not exactly a big newsflash that 99% of the new releases are indeed "some awful shitty music".

I'm not really complaining though, I have plenty of great music to listen to.


Posted by sljiva on Mar-10-2009 00:04:

quote:
Originally posted by Mr.Mystery
It really is quite easy to spot a badly produced track in 20 seconds.


Definitely. But it's not as easy to spot a superbly produced track in 20 seconds. If I judged all tracks by 20 seconds samples I wonder how many of them I'd now have on my favourite tracks list. Pretty much all of the tracks I like have lead-ins and lead-outs of different layers which make sense only when heard in its full glory or some kind of changes (rhythm, tempo, synth, structure) throughout them and in most cases those changes make a certain track stand out from the rest. I've listened to SAW earlier today, so here's one example: listen to THIS track from any point after 1:00 mark for 20 seconds and you'll hear nothing but a pleasant downtempo track with an intriguing atmosphere. Now listen to it in its entirety and you'll realize how much important stuff for the overall evaluation of the track is happening outside of any 20 second interval.


Posted by narcism on Mar-10-2009 01:13:

if anyone cares, setlist from marcus' set

Dakota - Koolhaus
Tritonal feat. Cristina Soto - Crash Into Reason (Moonbeam Remix)
ID1
Ashley Wallbridge - Harrier
Rank 1 - LED there be light (Wippenberg remix)
ID2
Rex Mundi feat. Susana - Nothing at All
Timmy + Tommy - Full Tiltin (Joint Operations Centre Remix)
Dakota - Sin City
ID3
John O'callaghan ft Audrey Gallagher - Big Sky (Markus Schulz A/X Remix)
Marc Vision vs. Markus Schulz vs. Wippenberg - Chakalaka's New World Gate (Markus Schulz Mashup)
ID4
Nitrous Oxide - Magenta
Ferry Corsten - Brainbox
Rafal Frost - Red
Markus Schulz - The New World
Jochen Miller vs. Armin Van Buuren - Lost Vocal Connection (Markus Schulz Mashup)
ID (O'Bir /Askew style)
Sia - Buttons (Markus Schulz Dub)
ID6
Rex Mundi + Ronski Speed - Perspective Space
16 Bit Lolitas & Ohmna - Take It Or Leave It
Wippenberg vs. Marc Vision - Chakalaka's Time Gate (Markus Schulz Mashup)
Tenishia - Everything (Tim Grube Dub Mix)
Cass + Slide - Perception (Markus Schulz Remix)
Way out West - The Fall (Richard Durand remix)
Skytech - Cardboard Box
Rank 1 - Airwave (ID remix)
Rowald Steyn - Hold Control
Albert Vorne - Formentera What (Gareth Emery Remix / Markus Schulz Big Room Reconstruction)
John O'Callaghan - New Jersey
4-Strings - Take me Away (Re-Ward Dub)
Marcus Schossow - From My Heart
Mr. Pit vs. Above & Beyond - Shana Can't Sleep (Black Army Mashup)
ID
Sunlounger ft Zara - Lost
ID
Element One - South Haven
Barnes & Heatcliff - Pyjamaparty
ID8
Delerium vs. Gareth Emery - This Is Silence (Myon & Shane 54 Collision)
Elevation - Biscayne (Lemon & Einar K Remix)
Markus Schulz Ft Andy Moor - Daydream (Lemon & Einar K Uplifting Remix)

Encore:
Art of Trance - Madagascar (Richard Durand remix)


Posted by SYSTEM-J on Mar-10-2009 02:15:

quote:
Originally posted by sljiva
You people are listening to some awful shitty simple music if you can tell after 20 seconds if track is good or not. No wonder why dance music sucks so much these days, it's not because of producers, it's because of you...


Depends on how you look at it. Perhaps it's possible to dismiss a track based on the Beatport sample because most tracks these days are little more than the Beatport sample + percussive intro/outro. And then again maybe music's only like that because people expect a track to do everything of note within a couple of minutes of listening time...

Tricky to blame any one party for these things if you ask me.


Posted by Light The Fuse on Mar-10-2009 02:44:

did you really count every tune you listened to in one sitting on beatport?


Posted by Domesticated on Mar-10-2009 03:15:

No, I just went to "new release" and it listed 405 tracks, and I listened to all of them.


Posted by Neo95gt on Mar-10-2009 03:24:

I saw Markus a month ago and had an awesome time along with the entire club. You must be some sort of boring fagot.


Posted by enydo on Mar-10-2009 03:45:

quote:
Originally posted by Neo95gt
I saw Markus a month ago and had an awesome time along with the entire club. You must be some sort of boring fagot.


How is your glowstick work coming?


Posted by Neo95gt on Mar-10-2009 03:53:

quote:
Originally posted by enydo
How is your glowstick work coming?


Tone down the disrespect before I tear off your toothpick arms, color them with a highlighter, and take them to the next Tiesto show.....ya skinny jean wearing queer.


Posted by enydo on Mar-10-2009 03:55:

So not good I assume.

Maybe try some longer shoelaces next time, it might give you a little more mobility while doing those complicated twirls. Keep at it man, you'll be blowing up those etards in no time!


Posted by woscar on Mar-10-2009 03:55:

quote:
Originally posted by Neo95gt
Tone down the disrespect before I tear off your toothpick arms, color them with a highlighter, and take them to the next Tiesto show.....ya skinny jean wearing queer.


A perfect example of "toning down the disrespect"


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