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Originally posted by bas I swear I saw a picture of him with a tattoo on his face one time...now I can't remember where or when I saw it lol

dude every hipster i know has a snakeskin tattoo covering their arm or shin or more

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Originally posted by epdarks I was lucky enough to see the guy play a few weeks back in Minneapolis. Crackhead... doubt it. Our promoters here had the nerve to give him a PBR when he asked for a beer. He did chain smoke cigs and play the afterparty for free. So maybe he's got a bit of crackhead in him. Hard ass, definitely not. Oh did I mention he was playing mid 90's techno rippers and closed with Radiohead. Dude can definitely play music.

Like I've talked with you many times before about that night, Dan. Marcel seemed very down to earth, and definitely didn't have the 'crack-head' look. He was very into it, and the crowd fed off that energy well. He in returned fed back off the crowd. I think Epdarks will agree that was one of, if not the best night of music we've witnessed here in Minneapolis.

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Originally posted by cmay119 Like I've talked with you many times before about that night, Dan. Marcel seemed very down to earth, and definitely didn't have the 'crack-head' look. He was very into it, and the crowd fed off that energy well. He in returned fed back off the crowd. I think Epdarks will agree that was one of, if not the best night of music we've witnessed here in Minneapolis.

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i get the impression that he takes what he does very seriously, if I may say so he seems to have a distinctly nordic severity and intensity.. I have heard nothing but good things about his live sets. I missed him at the bunker, but I was never thoroughly impressed with any of the sets I've heard from him.

One of my friends reviewed the night in a blog and I basically played the part of Deborah Downer, saying that what he's doing is virtually no different than what earlier detroit guys like Rob Hood were doing when they played at tresor, etc in 90s Berlin. In a sense I feel that this whole cult of the ostgut is mainly supported out of nostalgia or by those who missed out the first time, but I don't see anything about it as particularly mind blowing.

Now that's not to say he's not a good DJ or that I don't like techno music... but come on there is so much hype around this guy.

But I do really like a lot of the stuff coming out of this scene, production-wise, and probably mostly because I missed out on it the first time

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Originally posted by nefardec \ i get the impression that he takes what he does very seriously, if I may say so he seems to have a distinctly nordic severity and intensity.. I have heard nothing but good things about his live sets. I missed him at the bunker, but I was never thoroughly impressed with any of the sets I've heard from him. One of my friends reviewed the night in a blog and I basically played the part of Deborah Downer, saying that what he's doing is virtually no different than what earlier detroit guys like Rob Hood were doing when they played at tresor, etc in 90s Berlin. In a sense I feel that this whole cult of the ostgut is mainly supported out of nostalgia or by those who missed out the first time, but I don't see anything about it as particularly mind blowing. Now that's not to say he's not a good DJ or that I don't like techno music... but come on there is so much hype around this guy. But I do really like a lot of the stuff coming out of this scene, production-wise, and probably mostly because I missed out on it the first time

I must admit I'm pretty new to the Techno scene as well. Saying that though, I've seen quite a few Techno shows over the last year, and Marcel far and away was my favorite. I guess I just prefer the Berlin/Berghain Techno sound more than the Classic Detroit sound. I don't know, I may be talkng out of my ass on this though. The higher BPM Techno he was playing I did prefer compared to other US Techno DJ's that had come through the cities prior to him.

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Originally posted by enydo His Bodytonic Podcast press photo had him with a snakeskin type tattoo pattern.

Yeah this one. See? OOooOoOOooobadass.

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Originally posted by bas OOooOoOOooobadass.

Stop fucking doing that.

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Originally posted by nefardec \ i get the impression that he takes what he does very seriously, if I may say so he seems to have a distinctly nordic severity and intensity.. I have heard nothing but good things about his live sets. I missed him at the bunker, but I was never thoroughly impressed with any of the sets I've heard from him. One of my friends reviewed the night in a blog and I basically played the part of Deborah Downer, saying that what he's doing is virtually no different than what earlier detroit guys like Rob Hood were doing when they played at tresor, etc in 90s Berlin. In a sense I feel that this whole cult of the ostgut is mainly supported out of nostalgia or by those who missed out the first time, but I don't see anything about it as particularly mind blowing. Now that's not to say he's not a good DJ or that I don't like techno music... but come on there is so much hype around this guy. But I do really like a lot of the stuff coming out of this scene, production-wise, and probably mostly because I missed out on it the first time

I think I've had just about enough of you and your "Detroit did it 15 years ago" talk. I think you just need to join me in my DeLorean and head back to 1986 where we can be supercool.

jaykay that made no sense...i've been drinking :/

I'm watching Back To The Future as we speak.

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Originally posted by cmay119 I must admit I'm pretty new to the Techno scene as well.

haha, i probably attended 25+ techno parties in the last year, just missed m dettmann that night

Well if that type of sound is old and is just now resurfacing I'm glad... because I like it a good bit.

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Originally posted by nefardec haha, i probably attended 25+ techno parties in the last year, just missed m dettmann that night

Sorry about that. For some reason I thought I read in your previous post that you were new to techno. Never mind that first part then.

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Originally posted by nefardec One of my friends reviewed the night in a blog and I basically played the part of Deborah Downer, saying that what he's doing is virtually no different than what earlier detroit guys like Rob Hood were doing when they played at tresor, etc in 90s Berlin. In a sense I feel that this whole cult of the ostgut is mainly supported out of nostalgia or by those who missed out the first time, but I don't see anything about it as particularly mind blowing.

That's the same criticism that has been applied to minimal techno as a whole since, what, Internal Empire came out?

This isn't really a club nostalgia-issue that applies specifically to Berlin. Ostgut and Berghain are simply techno clubs, and techno always has been the soundtrack to the hedonism of Germany's clubbing. Right now, the problem is the genre itself and its current stint with minimalism. Ostgut and Berghain merely reflect that (for instance, Andre Galluzzi used to bang out stuff like Alter Ego - Betty Ford and Taksi - Rohrbruch in 2002 or so).

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Originally posted by TranceOwnsLol Marcel Dettmann is living THE life that most techno DJs want to achieve at some point in their careers. Props to him for working his way to success.

Well said. What a goddam pimp.

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Originally posted by Sand Leaper That's the same criticism that has been applied to minimal techno as a whole since, what, Internal Empire came out? This isn't really a club nostalgia-issue that applies specifically to Berlin. Ostgut and Berghain are simply techno clubs, and techno always has been the soundtrack to the hedonism of Germany's clubbing. Right now, the problem is the genre itself and its current stint with minimalism. Ostgut and Berghain merely reflect that (for instance, Andre Galluzzi used to bang out stuff like Alter Ego - Betty Ford and Taksi - Rohrbruch in 2002 or so).

i wasn't implying that berghain is the center of all techno music in the universe lol - since this article was about one guy, i limited my discussion to his surroundings.

the thing is, there seem to be actually a lot of people who DO believe that berghain is the techno center of the universe, who are only familiar with what they read on resident advisor, etc, and I've read countless blog posts etc about how dettmann is so 'foward thinking' and how berghain represents contemporary techno - basically I'm just saying, he's a good DJ, but you (not you, sand leaper) are kidding yourself if you think this is in any way contemporary or forward thinking

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Originally posted by nefardec interview is bland as fuck but he seems like a cool guy lol

yeah, RA interviews are weird. long paragraphs saying absolutely nothing but crap about how sounds turn into shapes or somethin'.

hahaha but yeah i really like what marcel dettmann said about dirt and techno.

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Originally posted by winston yeah, RA interviews are weird. long paragraphs saying absolutely nothing but crap about how sounds turn into shapes or somethin'. hahaha but yeah i really like what marcel dettmann said about dirt and techno.

well it was basically just like, what's up marcel, man i bet your life is awesome, and them marcel is like, 'yeah it's fucking awesome check out this record, ps i like smoking and sweat'

not too different than that interview jon stewart made fun of on cnbc where the interviewer asks the old guy "is it fun being a billionaire?" and the old guy is like 'yes, yes i must say it is fun!" LOL

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Originally posted by nefardec well it was basically just like, what's up marcel, man i bet your life is awesome, and them marcel is like, 'yeah it's fucking awesome check out this record, ps i like smoking and sweat'

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Originally posted by nefardec well it was basically just like, what's up marcel, man i bet your life is awesome, and them marcel is like, 'yeah it's fucking awesome check out this record, ps i like smoking and sweat' not too different than that interview jon stewart made fun of on cnbc where the interviewer asks the old guy "is it fun being a billionaire?" and the old guy is like 'yes, yes i must say it is fun!" LOL

I believe that person in the CNBC interview was later indited for running a ponzie scheme. Maybe an impertinent thought, unless you want to read between the subconscious lines.

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Originally posted by nefardec the thing is, there seem to be actually a lot of people who DO believe that berghain is the techno center of the universe, who are only familiar with what they read on resident advisor, etc, and I've read countless blog posts etc about how dettmann is so 'foward thinking' and how berghain represents contemporary techno - basically I'm just saying, he's a good DJ, but you (not you, sand leaper) are kidding yourself if you think this is in any way contemporary or forward thinking

I'm sure that's true, but while I don't know what exactly you mean by "contemporary", going by a dictionary....

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1. existing, occurring, or living at the same time; belonging to the same time: Newton's discovery of the calculus was contemporary with that of Leibniz. 2. of about the same age or date: a Georgian table with a contemporary wig stand. 3. of the present time; modern: a lecture on the contemporary novel.

...Dettman and Berghain most certainly represent contemporary techno, lacking in innovation or not.

In any case, my point is that cult followings for clubs and DJs have far less to do with music than a region's clubbing culture. So the next time the Berlin-hype pops up, you can be pretty sure that the majority stems from people caught up in its hedonism rather than people impressed by the music played there.

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Originally posted by nefardec well it was basically just like, what's up marcel, man i bet your life is awesome, and them marcel is like, 'yeah it's fucking awesome check out this record, ps i like smoking and sweat' not too different than that interview jon stewart made fun of on cnbc where the interviewer asks the old guy "is it fun being a billionaire?" and the old guy is like 'yes, yes i must say it is fun!" LOL

Was that on last night or the night before? Either way, I almost died laughing.

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