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Originally posted by Sushipunk To be fair though, the little new-borns are pretty cute, in their weird little way. I love their tiny little, perfectly formed hands, with tiny little fingernails. Makes my dick look huge.

awesome.

My current lifestyle is not kid friendly, and seeing as I'm pretty much 100% headed down the path to becoming a professional DJ, I don't think it will for some time...

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Originally posted by Sushipunk To be fair though, the little new-borns are pretty cute, in their weird little way. I love their tiny little, perfectly formed hands, with tiny little fingernails. Makes my dick look huge.

Seriously LOL'd at this.

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Originally posted by woscar You won't understand it until you have one of your own.

he meant a blog

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Originally posted by The17sss It's very discouraging but whatever... I can't force myself to enjoy their company. They seem so complicated, and why would I want to complicate my life for something that won't really understand me for possibly 20 years, is a financial burden, and has no guarantee at actually becoming someone productive or worthwhile? Anyone else get where I'm coming from?

I have never tried to enjoy the company of babies, so I don't know whether I'd be successful if I did. However, I have serious doubts in that regard...

As far as I am concerned, they are a plague. They have the vexatious ability to turn most otherwise intelligent adults into slavering buffoons. They babble unintelligibly or, even worse, cry and whine like, well, babies. Their incessant attention-seeking behavior ranges from the obnoxious to the loathsome. They are foul and unsanitary agglomerations of writhing flesh, as well as tiny black holes into which a vast array of resources unrelentingly disappear, never to be seen again.

There is certainly a great deal of merit to your discouragement. I remain open to the possibility that there are benefits outweighing these rather ponderous costs, but it appears exceedingly improbable.

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Originally posted by Arbiter I have never tried to enjoy the company of babies, so I don't know whether I'd be successful if I did. However, I have serious doubts in that regard... As far as I am concerned, they are a plague. They have the vexatious ability to turn most otherwise intelligent adults into slavering buffoons. They babble unintelligibly or, even worse, cry and whine like, well, babies. Their incessant attention-seeking behavior ranges from the obnoxious to the loathsome. They are foul and unsanitary agglomerations of writhing flesh, as well as tiny black holes into which a vast array of resources unrelentingly disappear, never to be seen again. There is certainly a great deal of merit to your discouragement. I remain open to the possibility that there are benefits outweighing these rather ponderous costs, but it appears exceedingly improbable.

I love you

my problem with babies is more with the parents, especially the 'breeders' as I call them. These were the kids in school with a lack of intelligence, common sense or morals, whose only 'contribution' to society is to get married and have children, giving nothing to society but more stupid kids. The kind of parents whose dreams involve dumping the kids and getting drunk every weekend, letting tv or streets raise them and such.

On the other hand, a couple of friends of mine who have been to university, got good jobs behind them, good bank balances etc have had their first kids & the difference is huge. They absolutely dote over them, have pride and aspire to raise them to have a better future. This I can deal with because in most cases the parents have both the intelligence and resources to do the job properly.

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Originally posted by Arbiter I have never tried to enjoy the company of babies, so I don't know whether I'd be successful if I did. However, I have serious doubts in that regard... As far as I am concerned, they are a plague. They have the vexatious ability to turn most otherwise intelligent adults into slavering buffoons. They babble unintelligibly or, even worse, cry and whine like, well, babies. Their incessant attention-seeking behavior ranges from the obnoxious to the loathsome. They are foul and unsanitary agglomerations of writhing flesh, as well as tiny black holes into which a vast array of resources unrelentingly disappear, never to be seen again. There is certainly a great deal of merit to your discouragement. I remain open to the possibility that there are benefits outweighing these rather ponderous costs, but it appears exceedingly improbable.

I love you, please have my babies.

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Originally posted by Ian On the other hand, a couple of friends of mine who have been to university, got good jobs behind them, good bank balances etc have had their first kids & the difference is huge. They absolutely dote over them, have pride and aspire to raise them to have a better future.

I appreciate that your friends are making a proper effort with their offspring, but how old is this little thing you're referring to?

Ideal or not, a large portion of a child's upbringing is done by it's peers, not it's parents. People SHOULD be giving their kids a proper lifestyle in it's early years, and I won't argue that it doesn't make a difference, but once the kid reaches a certain age, it becomes very different. A parent can't police what kind of friends a kid will make, or what kind of interests it will have. To do so (IMO) would be bad parenting.

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Originally posted by Sushipunk I appreciate that your friends are making a proper effort with their offspring, but how old is this little thing you're referring to? Ideal or not, a large portion of a child's upbringing is done by it's peers, not it's parents. People SHOULD be giving their kids a proper lifestyle in it's early years, and I won't argue that it doesn't make a difference, but once the kid reaches a certain age, it becomes very different. A parent can't police what kind of friends a kid will make, or what kind of interests it will have. To do so (IMO) would be bad parenting.

of course not, but they do have the means (financial) behind them to do things properly. Many of my friends who've gone onto university & good careers had that. I was next down, my parents cared but didn't have as much money as those. Then you have those who don't work and don't intend to but just have kids for the financial benefits they can claim. Mostly their kids then go onto be the same. Obviously there's some exceptions but if you took the best & worst of my town for example it'd be true in 9 out of every 10 cases.

i'm sure i'm a pain in the ass to my parents even though they say i'm not, but yeah im finacially expensive and a fucking asshole to them most of the times, at least when im home...not when i'm away..which like 11 months of the year..
but they say i was a good boy when i was young so ok...
anyways i don't like kids or babies for the most part, but i assume if i had a daughter i would...

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Originally posted by Sushipunk Ideal or not, a large portion of a child's upbringing is done by it's peers, not it's parents. People SHOULD be giving their kids a proper lifestyle in it's early years, and I won't argue that it doesn't make a difference, but once the kid reaches a certain age, it becomes very different. A parent can't police what kind of friends a kid will make, or what kind of interests it will have. To do so (IMO) would be bad parenting.

I agree to an extent. But I think that because my parents never patronised me and always treated me as an adult that I could keep my wits about me as an adolescent. My parents used to buy me alcohol when I was 15-16 and went to parties. I never had this impetus to "be an adult" and rebel against my parents.. mainly because I already felt like I was one. I knew I was as intelligent and mature as many of the adults I encountered and didn't really have anything to prove.

Sure I could fuck around and occasionally drink to much and experiment with drugs but still be responsible enough to draw the line when it came to doing something really stupid.. Never really felt pressured by idiots to do something stupid. Even though I was never the most confident dude. I honestly think it's the way my parents raised me that gave me that stability.

The other thing I see all the time is how parents want to wash their hands of child rearing the moment s/he starts school... which is such a bs attitude imo. You don't need to go around policing them or telling them what to do but you should still take an interest ffs.

I sort of feel similarly I guess. I don't find kids interesting at all really until they can form complete sentences. And even then they can be annoying, because they tend to cry and complain a lot more than adults. But I find their curiosity and imaginative tendencies kind of neat, because most people pretty much lose curiosity, creativity, and imagination by the time they turn 25, dumping them in favor of work, acquisitiveness, and "entertainment."

i love babies...how can you not like them especially if they don't belong to you ? you play with them for a bit then when they start to cry or get annoying pass them off to their parents. same goes for little kids. i love my cousin's 3 year old so damn much i'll sit with him color talk the kid on the phone but when he starts bitching i'm out. other people's kids are the best...granted i don't have my own nor do i think i should have children for many years so can't compare to having my own but win-win situation if you aren't their primary caregiver.

Not so much about non-family kids since well they are not family and new parents tend to utterly annoying about their kids.

Still I'm good with kids and they love me and I enjoy playing around with them. The first time I met my sisters baby it was different though, it was like I wanted to protect him. Made me think how I would feel if it was my own child.

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Originally posted by The17sss Forgive me if this is a subject that's already been discussed in the c0r... I'm still a spring chicken by TA standards. Anyway, I want to share a little experience and see if you all feel the same way I do. I visited one of my old friends this past weekend who had her first baby 9 months ago. She is one of the few people left from my original clique dating back to the 3rd grade, and the 2nd one of my true inner circle of friends to have had a baby recently. So, there I am at lunch with her and her baby... watching the circus that appears to be parenthood. I saw my friend all "amazed" and "wowed" at every little motion and/or sound the baby would make, and in my head I was saying, "I don't get it. That baby is just wriggling around with no control of its body... where's the amazement?" Then she would talk to it as if she was having a conversation with someone who truly undertsands what is being said. Again, I'm there thinking, "Ugh... how boring that must be. You know the kid doesn't know what you're talking about. Why are you wasting your time?" I know you have to communicate with them of course, but I feel stupid talking to babies and kids who obviously don't know what I'm saying... which is part of the reason I can't stand to be around them. You see, I have practially no experience with babies/infants/little kids. I want to like them, but I just can't find a shread of emotion for them. Everyone says, "well wait till you have your own... you'll fall in love instantly and undersand how amazing it is and blah blah blah." But what if that doesn't happen? I try to think, "well I feel this way because it's someone else's kid," but I really don't know. It's very discouraging but whatever... I can't force myself to enjoy their company. They seem so complicated, and why would I want to complicate my life for something that won't really understand me for possibly 20 years, is a financial burden, and has no guarantee at actually becoming someone productive or worthwhile? Anyone else get where I'm coming from?

this pretty much sums up completely my feelings on the matter. which is unfortunate, because my fianc� was born to have kids, that is her sole purpose for being on this planet, and it scares me

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Originally posted by Arbiter I have never tried to enjoy the company of babies, so I don't know whether I'd be successful if I did. However, I have serious doubts in that regard... As far as I am concerned, they are a plague. They have the vexatious ability to turn most otherwise intelligent adults into slavering buffoons. They babble unintelligibly or, even worse, cry and whine like, well, babies. Their incessant attention-seeking behavior ranges from the obnoxious to the loathsome. They are foul and unsanitary agglomerations of writhing flesh, as well as tiny black holes into which a vast array of resources unrelentingly disappear, never to be seen again. There is certainly a great deal of merit to your discouragement. I remain open to the possibility that there are benefits outweighing these rather ponderous costs, but it appears exceedingly improbable.

I'd like to join the others in saying that I have some serious man-love for you after reading this post.

I'm in the same boat but I'm just assuming whenever I spawn I'll feel differently about my own... I hope.

I also hate babies...have no want or need to reproduce...have no want or need to give up my lifestyle...have no want to go into serious debt for the spawn of Satan. If I was royalty, and had servants to raise it and continue the namesake, then maybe I would do it. It's not like the human race is becoming extinct anytime soon, so stop reproducing simpletons! Were overpopulated with morons as it is.

I can't stand kids and try my hardest to remain as far away from any kids as possible.

It kinda sucks because one of my cousins that lives close to me has a baby which means that whenever the family gets together it turns into a baby passing party. Woo hoo everyone gets a chance to play with the baby. When it's my turn i usually just hold it awkwardly for a second then pass it on.

Also, whenever i'm going out with someone I usually try touch on the subject of kids in a sneaky way to gauge their reaction. "OMG KIDS ARE SO CUTE BLAH BLAH BLAH" is generally a run-for-the-hills-and-don't-look-back type of scenario. It's pretty much a requirement for me because I really don't want kids.

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Originally posted by Danny Ocean but yeah im finacially expensive and a fucking asshole to them most of the times, at least when im home...

Nothing more annoying in life than a twat who is a dick to their parents.

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Originally posted by coroknight It kinda sucks because one of my cousins that lives close to me has a baby which means that whenever the family gets together it turns into a baby passing party. Woo hoo everyone gets a chance to play with the baby. When it's my turn i usually just hold it awkwardly for a second then pass it on.

This happened to me when I was visiting my friend the other day. We were in the restaurant, just finished eating and were sitting there catching up for bit.

She takes her baby out of the high chair and hands it to me, saying, "Here... hold her," and passes her to me! I didn't want to be a dick and say, "No! Get that thing away from me!" I didn't even know what to do. I just sat her on the table in front of me, facing me... the baby just stared at me like, "who the hell are you? you aren't my dad," and started drooling. My friend was watching me, expecting me to be overwhelmed with the amazement that she feels for her own baby. I faked it a little so she wouldn't think I was a robot.

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Originally posted by The17sss I faked it a little so she wouldn't think I was a robot.

Thats pretty much what happens to me. I tense up and have no idea what to do.

DOES NOT COMPUTE

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Originally posted by Renzo Nothing more annoying in life than a twat who is a dick to their parents.

there is a hermaphroditic contradiction here.

Works well imo.

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