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a matter of opinion i guess.

i actually disagree with most of what you just wrote. but there isn't really a point in arguing it. you are entitled to your opinion.

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Originally posted by Leniu Everyone seems to be confused. He said that when they did it in the 90's it was innovative and had a deeper feel to it, which is true. However, every song played by armin or above and beyond in the past 6 months has been complete garbage. They all sound the same. Even markus' toronto 09 compliation all fucking sounds the same with maybe 2 songs that stand out. It lakcs a deep kick, it has no rhytm, and has a generic melody, daniel kandi being the epitome of this. I fucking hate it. PvD is 100% right. And his last album is not fucking trance, it has vocals, but its nowhere near being trance so stop calling it that. Trance is dead. Anything Anjuna-related began the downfall and its now complete.

Everything? Boy that's a pretty big brush. And I'm not sure what the point of that video was??

I stand corrected, not everything, 95%

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Originally posted by snatonsb Cheesy trance shit lmao.

It kills Techno any day !

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Originally posted by Leniu

Lets get one thing straight here son...

That horrid cover of Your Loving Arms in the begining of this clip is w/o question the most unique, unforgettable music that you will ever vomit to.

Anyone who considers that track trance should walk there ass backwards into on coming traffic because it is the biggest insult to NYC club anthems

I wasnt sure if he was posting that vid to bash trance or to support his view

Gotta love those deceiving Germans...

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Originally posted by Neo95gt I wasnt sure if he was posting that vid to bash trance or to support his view

either way...the 1st song is still shit...

always has been, always will be

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Originally posted by Scoops either way...the 1st song is still shit... always has been, always will be

obvie

Forget the video, you get distracted too easily. The point still is that trance is being butchered and it sucks.

I think there are great trance tracks out

please do tell

why? you aren't going to agree lol

im not that kind of a person, im curious.
i like cant sleep by marcel woods, cold winds first state remix, and U got 2 know by dubguru. If you got any more tracks like that id love to hear them.

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Originally posted by Thomas Datt yea i dont get it, he talks about cheesy music and then releases it on vandit digital, or even vandit...

true.

too many labels signing bull shit releases. including his.

his may be one of the top selling "really shit" tunes.

I find myself listening to prog house way more than trance....

I've heard PVD slam "trance" before b/c he's right when he says most of it is crap. Just like any genre of music whether it is pop, hip hop, EDM and it's subgenres etc, most of it is very poorly produced and as a producer as well as a DJ, PVD can weed those out. I'll even bet he'd be the first to admit some of his own productions in the past have been pretty terrible as well. I haven't heard anything new from PVD lately but from what I've heard from him, his productions are usually pretty solid, but sometimes repetitive. For an Angel, The Riddle, Another Way, Avenue, Out there and Back, etc, are well made, but have a very similar feel to say the least.

Trance has a tendency to be very formulaic.....Beat intro, start melody, chorus A and B, breakdown, chorus C, ending melody, outro......Let's be honest, 99% of all "trance" has this exact structure and PVD's productions are no different. I think what he fails to mention in this interview that I've heard him mention in the past is that there are so many more tracks out there being made by people who have no experience or business making music on PCs with outdated software and unbalanced mastering that the process of weeding those tracks out leaves only 1% of tracks playable.

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Originally posted by DJ Eddie Lee Trance has a tendency to be very formulaic.....Beat intro, start melody, chorus A and B, breakdown, chorus C, ending melody, outro......Let's be honest, 99% of all "trance" has this exact structure and PVD's productions are no different. I think what he fails to mention in this interview that I've heard him mention in the past is that there are so many more tracks out there being made by people who have no experience or business making music on PCs with outdated software and unbalanced mastering that the process of weeding those tracks out leaves only 1% of tracks playable.

I'm a producer myself. What you say here is completely true. However, I feel that 99% of those tracks need to exist in order to circulate the "Trance" scene. Labels like Armada would crumble if they don't obtain these tracks, even though the quality of them may be sub par. Even on Vandit Digital.

Paul won't admit it, but Vandit Digital releases tracks that are on that cheese level also. These labels need money to survive. So if they gotta grab those cheesy tunes, then so be it. No label will honestly wait for that 1% hit tune to come out of nowhere and then magically arrive into their inbox. They would be out of business by then.

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Originally posted by Leniu im not that kind of a person, im curious. i like cant sleep by marcel woods, cold winds first state remix, and U got 2 know by dubguru. If you got any more tracks like that id love to hear them.

so what your saying is your preference is the techier side of things :P

try Ummet Ozcan - Timewave Zero

one of my favorite recent releases

At no point during the interview did he say that he or his label doenst release subpar productions. He's just criticizing the way things are, and saying he has been trying to take EDM in a different direction, away from the new cheesy trance that has been being released and hyped up by other big DJs.
Personally I hate majority of PvD's style even more than cheesy bimboom tralalala trance, for example, John O'Bir is complete garbage in my opinion. I still agree with what he's saying. EDM can't become equivalent with pop love songs, and that's the direction it has been slowly going in.

Ummet Ozcan - Timewave Zero is pretty good, but I don't think this is the type of trance PvD is criticizing. I think this is what he would say is the direction trance needs to go in. Just listen to the tracks he's been promoting lately...

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Originally posted by Leniu He's just criticizing the way things are, and saying he has been trying to take EDM in a different direction, away from the new cheesy trance that has been being released and hyped up by other big DJs.

and what better way to do that than by spinning and signing the same cheesy tracks?

He still likes money I'm sure, and since people buy them he signs them. But still, his label has released much less cheesy trance than others. Not saying the music he releases is much better, but it's a step up.

didnt say it was what he was criticizing haha you just asked for tracks and i've got a ton of techier stuff

Sorry Paul, a man responsible for virtually starting the trend should just STFU.

White Lies?
Castaway?
Fucking Wayne Jackson shit - other side?
Nothing but you?
Hm.. Hey, on Vandit - Lo Fi Sugar "So High"?


You call THAT Trance? Hey Paul, don't know about you but 'we're heading for Venus in a getaway car'... so just "Let Go"

Talk about f'n cheese:

If you wanna try and save me
Then take my heart and hate me
If you feel you can't let go, let go

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Originally posted by Stassi I also agree with him too! But he's pointing the blame at others when he shouldn't be. Time to bust out my cheese grater on this fool! And notice how he insists on not being classified as a trance DJ? Really then, what would you consider yourself Paul? And Rank 1 isn't trance? Am I missing something? Watching this video makes me feel like im taking Crazy pills! Just to get the point across.

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