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Posted by weymouth on Mar-25-2009 02:12:

I'm probably going to wait until it airs on television. No need to buy it twice when it will more than likely be attached to the first season of the show on dvd.


Posted by Lebezniatnikov on Mar-25-2009 02:14:

I actually thought Pegasus was kind of boring... Admiral Cain was an interesting persona, but she only lasted for one episode - they went through like four commanders in five episodes, and I just didn't care anymore. Then they did like three episodes in a row that were psychological profiles or something - the stimulant habit of a random pilot, Starbuck's alcohol problem... yawn.

Didn't get good again until the emergence of the Cylon "heroes" - the idea of Gaius McFancypants being stuck in the head of a Number Six was interesting, as was the idea that Cylons are realizing they are becoming more human (which to them means more sinful).

The religious dynamic of the series is actually what I find to be most interesting - the existential questions of what it means to be human and what it means to have faith. The majority of characters I don't care much for, and I found it exceedingly boring that they spent so much time psychoanalyzing some of them.


Posted by bas on Mar-25-2009 02:16:

quote:
Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
also bas, you dirty little jew, the DVD will contain extra footage not shown on tv.

Oh boy! Extra footage from a show I've never seen and probably won't like anyway

SyFy has a tendency to pick up/make shows that have the production value of a high school play. No thanks


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Mar-25-2009 02:20:

quote:
Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov
I actually thought Pegasus was kind of boring... Admiral Cain was an interesting persona, but she only lasted for one episode - they went through like four commanders in five episodes, and I just didn't care anymore. Then they did like three episodes in a row that were psychological profiles or something - the stimulant habit of a random pilot, Starbuck's alcohol problem... yawn.

Didn't get good again until the emergence of the Cylon "heroes" - the idea of Gaius McFancypants being stuck in the head of a Number Six was interesting, as was the idea that Cylons are realizing they are becoming more human (which to them means more sinful).

The religious dynamic of the series is actually what I find to be most interesting - the existential questions of what it means to be human and what it means to have faith. The majority of characters I don't care much for, and I found it exceedingly boring that they spent so much time psychoanalyzing some of them.


how did i know you'd end up intellectualising way too much?

yeah, i forgot about the some of the random 'one off' episodes that didn't do a helluva lot. you're gonna hate much of season 3 (blame the studio, not the writers). much of season 3 is like that.

and cain was in 2 eps i thought the whole battle between the two sides of humanity was really well done, and reminded me a bit of B5.


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Mar-25-2009 02:22:

quote:
Originally posted by bas
Oh boy! Extra footage from a show I've never seen and probably won't like anyway

SyFy has a tendency to pick up/make shows that have the production value of a high school play. No thanks


hey, its not like a plucked some random show out of thin air!

how can you not have a huge amount of faith in the writers and creators of BSG??? its the best example of fantasy ever seen in the history of television. BSG also has the highest production values of any scifi ever made. so ner!!


Posted by Joss Weatherby on Mar-25-2009 02:35:

quote:
Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
how can you not have a huge amount of faith in the writers and creators of BSG??? its the best example of fantasy ever seen in the history of television. BSG also has the highest production values of any scifi ever made. so ner!!



Its stuff like this that makes you sound like zealot and not someone trying to make a credible defense of what they think is good/right.

Though I can't tell if the 'so ner' is a joke or not... which doesn't lend much credence to you either.


Posted by bas on Mar-25-2009 02:36:

quote:
Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
BSG also has the highest production values of any scifi ever made. so ner!!

Aside from the fact that all the CGI looks like cut scenes from StarCraft....the first StarCraft


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Mar-25-2009 02:51:

quote:
Originally posted by Joss Weatherby
Its stuff like this that makes you sound like zealot and not someone trying to make a credible defense of what they think is good/right.

Though I can't tell if the 'so ner' is a joke or not... which doesn't lend much credence to you either.


BSG really is that good. get over it.

quote:
Originally posted by bas
Aside from the fact that all the CGI looks like cut scenes from StarCraft....the first StarCraft


yeah, it does suffer from the blue screen effect, however this is only a problem when real life actors are in the shot.


Posted by Sunsnail on Mar-25-2009 02:59:

quote:
Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
its a completely new tv series. make sure you purchase to ensure it gets a run!



so you've never seen the show?


Posted by Lebezniatnikov on Mar-25-2009 03:02:

quote:
Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
how did i know you'd end up intellectualising way too much?




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yeah, i forgot about the some of the random 'one off' episodes that didn't do a helluva lot. you're gonna hate much of season 3 (blame the studio, not the writers). much of season 3 is like that.


Haha, great. Though I have to admit, having 2/3 of humanity taken over at the end of 2.5 has a lot of possibilities...

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and cain was in 2 eps i thought the whole battle between the two sides of humanity was really well done, and reminded me a bit of B5.


Yeah, but it didn't last long and didn't seem to be based on much. The "battle" between Roslyn and the military in Season One was more interesting.

And I have no idea what B5 is... I'm kind of a sci fi noob - I prefer my television to be written by Aaron Sorkin.


Posted by Sushipunk on Mar-25-2009 03:07:

quote:
Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov
I have no idea what B5 is


In before PKC's rock hard penis.


Posted by Domesticated on Mar-25-2009 03:11:

quote:
Originally posted by Sushipunk
In before PKC's embarrassingly soft and deflated yet fully erect penis


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Mar-25-2009 03:15:

quote:
Originally posted by Sunsnail
so you've never seen the show?


no, it hasn't come out yet! try to keep up snail! it wont be running on tv til 2010, this is the pilot which we buy and that gives the studios impetus to ensure good funding and continued project

quote:
Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov
Haha, great. Though I have to admit, having 2/3 of humanity taken over at the end of 2.5 has a lot of possibilities...


the first 4 eps of season 3 are pretty damn awesome imo. it just sags in the middle. still some great individual episodes, they just didnt add much to the plot unfortunately.

quote:
Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov
Yeah, but it didn't last long and didn't seem to be based on much. The "battle" between Roslyn and the military in Season One was more interesting.


whoa whoa- what about adama's (the ultimate lawful good character) temptation by assassination? yummy! not to mention that horrible rape scene. poor sharon. i would travel across the universe to rescue her!

quote:
Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov
And I have no idea what B5 is... I'm kind of a sci fi noob - I prefer my television to be written by Aaron Sorkin.


babylon 5. basically B5 was the very first television show to introduce the 'novel for television' format. every show that features a plot arc owes a great debt to B5.

the similarities between B5 and BSG are striking, however BSG has far higher production values and overall a more complete package (it is 10 years newer after all). if youre ever bored with your philosophers et al, check it out. it takes at least a season before it really hits its stride though. on a plus note, lots of politics!


Posted by Sunsnail on Mar-25-2009 03:24:

quote:
Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
no, it hasn't come out yet! try to keep up snail! it wont be running on tv til 2010, this is the pilot which we buy and that gives the studios impetus to ensure good funding and continued project


does this happen often?


Posted by Lebezniatnikov on Mar-25-2009 03:28:

quote:
Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
whoa whoa- what about adama's (the ultimate lawful good character) temptation by assassination? yummy! not to mention that horrible rape scene. poor sharon. i would travel across the universe to rescue her!


Haha, you would like Sharon. I much prefer Dualla.


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Mar-25-2009 03:31:

quote:
Originally posted by Sunsnail
does this happen often?


well, perhaps i wasn't clear. the series is scheduled for 2010, this pilot episode will screen sometime this year, and ratings and DVD purchases are pretty important if you wanna see more, like anything after the first season. i know DVD sales play a pretty big part in helping shows that might not be showing huge amounts of viewers (ie BSG).

almost all tv series' (especially scifi) start off with a pilot.

so, if ratings are average but DVD sales are good, the series is more likely to continue.


Posted by Sunsnail on Mar-25-2009 04:42:

How do you know it isnt going to suck balls


Posted by Darkarbiter on Mar-25-2009 04:54:

quote:
Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
babylon 5. basically B5 was the very first television show to introduce the 'novel for television' format. every show that features a plot arc owes a great debt to B5.

the similarities between B5 and BSG are striking, however BSG has far higher production values and overall a more complete package (it is 10 years newer after all). if youre ever bored with your philosophers et al, check it out. it takes at least a season before it really hits its stride though. on a plus note, lots of politics!

Babylon 5 has much deeper characters/much better story (and flow to it).


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Mar-25-2009 04:56:

quote:
Originally posted by Sunsnail
How do you know it isnt going to suck balls


i dont.

quote:
Originally posted by Darkarbiter
Babylon 5 has much deeper characters


no.

quote:
Originally posted by Darkarbiter
much better story


yes.

quote:
Originally posted by Darkarbiter
(and flow to it).


only seasons 3 and 4.


Posted by nchs09 on Mar-25-2009 06:13:

Re: caprica now available for pre-order on amazon

quote:
Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
if you don't know what caprica is its because you have awful taste in popular culture.



mmm maybe iv been missing something


quote:


scifi political drama!
nm, carry on with the nerdyness.


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Mar-25-2009 06:16:

Re: Re: caprica now available for pre-order on amazon

quote:
Originally posted by nchs09
nm, carry on with the nerdyness.


oh, i lied too. there doesn't seem to be much scifi asides from the whole building-the-cylon angle.


Posted by Joss Weatherby on Mar-25-2009 06:17:

BTW if anyone wants a really good sci-fi political drama then Legend of the Galactic Heroes is really good.


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Mar-25-2009 06:26:

quote:
Originally posted by Joss Weatherby
BTW if anyone wants a really good sci-fi political drama then Legend of the Galactic Heroes is really good.


quote:

The series, while 20 years old, has not been released officially with English dubbing nor subtitles.


?


Posted by Joss Weatherby on Mar-25-2009 06:41:

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
?


The anime series has been fully fan-subbed.

http://a.scarywater.net/ca/

Its pretty good if you like massive space battles and political intrigue, revolution, terrorism, corruption and scandals, etc.


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Mar-25-2009 07:04:

yeah, that sounds ace. ill check it out, thanks.


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