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| Originally posted by Spam Dude I watched the whole video. If you pay attention it's all in there. Subliminal messages and all that jazz. You should watch it a few times in a row tonight, you'll see. |
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| Originally posted by b4k-oz Ok I'm going to watch it a few times...but if I don't see it, I'm reporting back in here that you must of had too many red bulls when you watched it. |
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| Originally posted by Spam No such thing. |
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| Originally posted by b4k-oz LOl...relax My movie starts in 20 min. 3x aughta do it...so what should I be looking for as subliminal messages? |
Anyone else wanna watch it...here's the link people.
It's called The Obama Deception.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAaQNACwaLw
Bring out the popcorn 
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| Originally posted by b4k-oz I don't remember where I got that from. How could it. Everyone reports different things online. US News reported 58 billion and Huffington Post said 90 billion. CNN Money reports 3 trillion http://money.cnn.com/2008/11/05/new...ilout/index.htm Reporting agencies are confusing....Who really knows how much has left the reserve? What I do know for sure is that the banks and Wallstreet did profiteer. And the people who said Obama is great just got egg on their face. Can't help but watch it all come down now that the weeks are rolling in. It's like watching a black version of bush. |
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| Originally posted by Skipper I'm pretty sure, positive actually, that most of your numbers are incorrect. The TARP was $700billion. Stimulus package (Obama's first bill in office) was $875B or so. Geitner's plan announced this week was $1 trillion. There are many many speculations on how much it will take to pull the US out of the recession. But the entire global financial system WOULD HAVE COLLAPSED without US government intervention. There is broad consensus amongst top economists that this is true. Is the money going to be tracked down to every cent? Of course not. But this level of spending is necessary in the short term. |
Obama is clearly NOT the most powerful man in American politics. Come on, anyone with half a brain in their head knows that the President is kept in the dark on many issues. I'm quite sure he has struck a few deals here and there and he has broken some promises and will break a few more, as all politicians do.
But for fuck sake, he's been in office for what...65 days? Let's be a little bit more patient before we start saying he's an Illuminati pawn.
I am very certain myself that this "crisis" has been engineered in some manner by people in positions of wealth, power and influence. I don't know how deep it goes and none of us probably will, since we're just the modern peasant class anyway. I do not trust people with wealth, and I certainly do not trust anyone who runs any kind of financial firm or is involved with banks. They're all crooks, it's as simple as that. Every last one of them. No offense to anyone, but being a big time banker is just as bad as being a lawyer. Fucking blood suckers, the lot of them.
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| Originally posted by b4k-oz Did you catch the news yesterday with Obama reading from the teleprompter? I know this is more about the USA but what happens there affects us. Fact: Everyone Obama appointed to office came from Wall Street or were Lobbyist. First he said he wouldn't appoint them and then he appointed them to office. Did you know that: Tim Geithner (former Pres of Fed. Reserve Bank) now head of Treasury, and Rahm Manuel (former wallstreet exec) now chief of staff, engineered the AIG banker bailout deal. AIG got $170 mil in Fed Reserve Loan and despite that Obama said he signed an executive order capping the CEO salaries, all major banks and brokerage firms were exempt. It's estimated that $5 Trillion disappeared out of US treasury from this bailout and the estimate is now climbing to over $8 trillion. Under pressure AIG had to release a list of where the money went to. The largest chunks went to Wall Street and banks in USA and Europe. Wall Street firms Goldman Sachs and Merrill Lynch round out the top four, receiving $2.5 billion and $1.8 billion. Now what do you think of Obama? |
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| Originally posted by Skipper Oh no, he read from a teleprompter |
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| Originally posted by Skipper I'm pretty sure, positive actually, that most of your numbers are incorrect. The TARP was $700billion. Stimulus package (Obama's first bill in office) was $875B or so. Geitner's plan announced this week was $1 trillion. There are many many speculations on how much it will take to pull the US out of the recession. But the entire global financial system WOULD HAVE COLLAPSED without US government intervention. There is broad consensus amongst top economists that this is true. Is the money going to be tracked down to every cent? Of course not. But this level of spending is necessary in the short term. |
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| Originally posted by b4k-oz tonybologna...I find it hard to believe that last comment about no jews dying in 911. Facts....where are the facts to prove this? |
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| Originally posted by terrytutone That was me that wrote that. And there are no facts to support that. Thats the point. Its just one of those claims that crazy conspiracy theorists go on about without realizing how anti-semitic the thought is. I was trying to say that you're crazy. |
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| Originally posted by Dj Smitty20 I certainly do not trust anyone who runs any kind of financial firm or is involved with banks. They're all crooks, it's as simple as that. Every last one of them. No offense to anyone, but being a big time banker is just as bad as being a lawyer. Fucking blood suckers, the lot of them. |
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| Originally posted by Spam Then the 7 horsement of the apocalypse will appear, followed by the second coming of Jesus (no, not Obama) to end Global Warming by killing everyone except 144000 Jehova's witnesses. Right after Tom Cruise and John Travolta hitch a ride on their UFO. |
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| Originally posted by tonybologna You can't keep paying off debt with more debt. |
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| Originally posted by Skipper Really glad no one is being dramatic in here |
I work for a Toronto brokerage firm... I believe we do good, honest work.
You cannot blame a trader...they are simply buying and selling stock for clients. They didn't design this whole mess. The root of the problem is with banks who loaned to everyday clients that they knew didn't understand the terms of the loans and how they would be repaid. The root of this whole mess is the US housing market, and it all started with the subprime loan. You could even say the american consumer is at fault for signing up for something they didn't understand first. But it's not a TRADER that created this problem.
You can also blame investment advisors and rating agencies as well. But not a trader.
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| Originally posted by Jayx1 Obama had the same political strategist as Mcguinty. So expect more and more broken promises. (trite, obvious and rhetorical question followed here) |
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| Originally posted by DigiNut Alex Jones is an idiot. |
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| Originally posted by terrytutone That was me that wrote that. And there are no facts to support that. Thats the point. Its just one of those claims that crazy conspiracy theorists go on about without realizing how anti-semitic the thought is. I was trying to say that you're crazy. |
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| Originally posted by Jayx1 Hes a tax and spend socialist who is driving the USA into bankruptcy. |
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| Originally posted by Skipper You cannot blame a trader... |
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| Originally posted by Skipper Oh no, he read from a teleprompter |
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| Originally posted by Kellyboop Oh no! If newscasters can read from a teleprompter why can't Obama? We all know someone writes his speeches and it looks much better to see him looking in the camera vs. looking at papers on his podium. The guy is human get over it. |
Regarding this whole "teleprompter" meme, it's a silly distraction that some right wing bloggers and cable news hacks have tried to pass off as somehow "proving" that Obama can't talk off the cuff. Except we all know he can, because he did so repeatedly in an 18 month campaign, in several debates, town halls, and press conferences.
The story that he "accidentally" thanked himself when reading from a teleprompter on St. Patrick's day is a lie, he was actually making a joke to take the heat of the PM of Ireland who himself read the wrong comments from a teleprompter. Read This.
I mean, come on people, do a little research before drinking the kool-aid.
As for the post that started this thread: thats the most god-awful, error-filled, poorly spelled piece of crap to hit this board in a while, and that's really saying something. The guy doesn't even know the difference between millions and billions.
Are people so desperate to believe they are the victims of a sinister conspiracy that they'll accept anything?
End of rant. You can all go back to watching Glen Beck and stocking your fallout shelters with canned goods.
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