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Posted by cronodevir on Apr-05-2009 20:09:

People still use Ableton? Wow, Old school


Posted by echosystm on Apr-06-2009 07:56:

quote:
Originally posted by cronodevir
People still use Ableton? Wow, Old school


Yeah, Kimset7 uses Ableton... lol.


Posted by Kismet7 on Apr-06-2009 08:31:

quote:
Originally posted by echosystm
Yeah, Kimset7 uses Ableton... lol.


no i don't. you lie again.


Posted by Beatflux on Apr-06-2009 08:33:

quote:
Originally posted by cronodevir
People still use Ableton? Wow, Old school


Ableton is the new Fruity Loops.


Posted by Bayou Boy on Apr-07-2009 00:47:

I wish I would have bought Logic. I've been having live 6 for a while and there is no way I'm upgrading. I do everything in reason and then bounce my track to live just to use vsts that I bought. Live 8, looks like total garbage.....not worth the $$$


Posted by Lucidity on Apr-07-2009 16:31:

quote:
Originally posted by Bayou Boy
Live 8, looks like total garbage.....not worth the $$$



YIKES


Posted by rainbow_marble on Apr-08-2009 23:45:

do the people in here knocking ableton not know how to use it or something? i heard that v8 will make it easier to draw in midi... this will make it MUCH better for producing (trying to draw in the grid used to be such a pain in the ass!) im not sure why you would want to use logic, cubase (or any other program besides ableton for that matter), unless you are already used to it. imo, ableton is by far the easiest to transfer your thoughts into your music and is exceptionally functional if you have all the right plugins.


Posted by Kismet7 on Apr-09-2009 02:58:

quote:
Originally posted by rainbow_marble
do the people in here knocking ableton not know how to use it or something? i heard that v8 will make it easier to draw in midi... this will make it MUCH better for producing (trying to draw in the grid used to be such a pain in the ass!) im not sure why you would want to use logic, cubase (or any other program besides ableton for that matter), unless you are already used to it. imo, ableton is by far the easiest to transfer your thoughts into your music and is exceptionally functional if you have all the right plugins.


The midi editing / piano roll is the most annoying part of Ableton for me, if they fix that, then i'd definately be more interested in it.


Any word on a demo for Ableton 8 yet?


Posted by kitphillips on Apr-09-2009 07:55:

quote:
Originally posted by rainbow_marble
do the people in here knocking ableton not know how to use it or something? i heard that v8 will make it easier to draw in midi... this will make it MUCH better for producing (trying to draw in the grid used to be such a pain in the ass!) im not sure why you would want to use logic, cubase (or any other program besides ableton for that matter), unless you are already used to it. imo, ableton is by far the easiest to transfer your thoughts into your music and is exceptionally functional if you have all the right plugins.


What? Did you read the thread? I use ableton. I know how to use it. Its good. But the update's overpriced and is only delivering what should have been in version 7 (or 6 FFS).

Ableton certainly isn't the best DAW, even with this upgrade its still missing some really crucial stuff. Its just the one that has the least number of flaws IMO. If I didn't use it to play live I doubt I'd use it in the studio. Its lacking important stuff like offline processing, better comping, routings that you can save and load at will, multiple cue points in session view, coloured warp markers etc...


Posted by jupiterone on Apr-10-2009 17:39:

fuck do i hate the way clip stretching/warping is change


Posted by Jimb0b on Apr-12-2009 22:44:

I like ableton, but hate the piano roll for inputting notes.

Dont know if its been improved in v8.


Posted by Zak McKracken on Apr-12-2009 23:42:

shouldnt this be in the DJ forum?


Posted by SgtFoo on Apr-13-2009 04:39:

quote:
Originally posted by palm
shouldnt this be in the DJ forum?


Ableton Live is a music production/PA DAW more than it is a DJing app.


Posted by Lolo on Apr-13-2009 06:15:

To be honest, I haven't upgraded myself yet, but I will, soon.

Ableton Live is a music factory, not a djing app. You can do entire productions, create live sets, do sound design in it and rewire it to your main application. It's quite versatile.

A lot of things were improved. First of all, there is finally step recording into the piano roll. The way you have to enter notes with the midi keyboard and the computer keyboard is unpractical though, but that's just me probably.

What I'm still missing is score edit, a better multi-out handling with surround support, and some minor touches to make it really complete, such as tape-delay fx, convolution reverb, separate unison depth in Analog. I think also, at that price range, that they could easily add some v-vocal feature like the one you find in Sonar and Cubase 5 (this one should be in logic 9, also).

All in all, a good update if you can deal with the stability issues for now, but it's probably a little too pricey for many who could use a cracked version instead.


Posted by kitphillips on Apr-13-2009 08:50:

quote:
Originally posted by Lolo
A lot of things were improved. First of all, there is finally step recording into the piano roll. The way you have to enter notes with the midi keyboard and the computer keyboard is unpractical though, but that's just me probably.

What I'm still missing is score edit, a better multi-out handling with surround support, and some minor touches to make it really complete, such as tape-delay fx, convolution reverb, separate unison depth in Analog. I think also, at that price range, that they could easily add some v-vocal feature like the one you find in Sonar and Cubase 5 (this one should be in logic 9, also).

All in all, a good update if you can deal with the stability issues for now, but it's probably a little too pricey for many who could use a cracked version instead.


Yeah +1 to all that. You covered a couple of things I forgot actually.

Score edit was the other thing I was after. I need it if I'm going to work with live bands. And I've been really wanting to see ableton buy Melodyne for their warping engine and vocal editing for a while. The two companies would go really well together and ableton desperately needs better warping


Posted by mysticalninja on Apr-13-2009 09:43:

quote:
Originally posted by palm
shouldnt this be in the DJ forum?


ooo, burn.


Posted by mzvirbulis on Apr-13-2009 11:35:

yer this is quite good update for me from me first buying live6 and now going to live 8 suite. I feel like its a great program, plus i have reaper to use if i want.


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