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this thread lost me at

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I am in the middle of budgeting for a large 3 day festival 90 miles north of NYC.

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Originally posted by neocubist I'm working with CEO's who get millions from the government to work with the Solar Industry. I think they will be able to manage my sponsorship needs.

...in this economy.....?

Yo,

If I planned a "Special" NYTA party on Friday night and it went as long as it wanted to into saturday... Would people go to it even if they planned on going to Tiesto?

Keep in mind, I am not marketing to the "Commercial" scene here.

The Lake Stage @ night is for the NY crew who wants to make this event happen..

Wanna see some raw photos of the place?

I gotta get out there and make a nice sales kit for the place, If you want sponsors like Coke, Fuse/MTV, Monster, Sharp... ya gotta have the pitch!

We are considering getting involved in a "Guinness Book of World's Records" in regards to "Alternative Energy"... and we are also looking to have an effective "Cause" that will touch the hearts of those that care. Get some acts to be a part of it... It's hard to create a cause around "Electric".. unless it's so big that you can raise enough to build a solar power plant that distributes free energy.. hehehehe.. That sounds like a good cause

I really am only bothering you with 1 page of 30 in the business plan.

Have no fear, this fest is the real deal... I just have to see how far we should go with the Electronic scene..

Thanks for posting, Keep em coming!

Ben

Dude, if you look at government spending... They are spending MORE on alternative energy..

Sorry to get off subject.. I have nay sayers!

ALBANY � The $5 million in economic development funding dedicated to attract the solar energy industry to the Hudson Valley has been left in the state budget and was not cut as part of the deficit-reduction plan approved by the state Assembly, according to Assemblyman Kevin Cahill.

Cahill, D-Kingston, is chairman of the Assembly�s Energy Committee and said he fought to keep the funding intact.

http://www.dailyfreeman.com/article...4f729005137.txt

�In order to get our economy moving again, we must continue our commitment to invest in green jobs,� Cahill said. �Solar power is going to play a critical role in our energy future and economic development in our region. I look forward to partnering with Gov. (David) Paterson and entities like The Solar Energy Consortium to make sure this funding is dedicated quickly and effectively.�

The Solar Energy Consortium is an Ulster County-based organization of businesses and universities dedicated to the development of solar energy technology for the Northeast and the creation of perhaps thousands of jobs in New York state.

�In this economic environment, the solar industry is going to go to where the money is, so the quicker we get these funds out the door, the faster we can begin creating good, green jobs in Ulster County and throughout the Hudson Valley,� said Vince Cozzolino, the consortium�s chief executive officer.

This event is SOLARITY FEST... They are my main advocate group that is going to get the funding and support for this to work.

So, now that we have that out of the way.

Enough of the "problems"...

Think of this thread as the "Planning Committee" for ideas on organizing a way for all you guys to get together to party.

Who else is throwing you this kind of party? Seriously, take this opportunity to get everyone you know and plan YOUR party if you want to do it.. This isn't "MY" party, It's your party!

Who do I talk to on here to make this an Official TA event?

Thanks for helping me so far! I appreciate it.

Ben

Leave the problem solving to me.. Thats what I do

If you bring Super8 & Tab, I'd be willing to drive damn near anywhere. If it ends up on the same night as Tiesto I will be going to Tiesto unless you have a solid multi-headliner line up.

As for the whole tranceaddict party thing, people have tried...the location and what else is going on always affects the turn out but even considering those factors we wouldn't make up the 10,000 expectation you are looking for unless you also market to those outside of NYC and in other regions or Canada as well.

To draw even more of a crowd I suggest you get WAY more people involved here and do an event like for example "the battle of the boards" and bring in DJ's from TA, Groovenauts, Trance.nu.....shit even clubplanet if you have to and create a local DJ competition on top of having big name dj's as the main event. I am sure MANY people on here would go support their favorite locals. Get sponsors for prizes etc etc...

To drive that far, especially considering many of these city dwellers use mass transit you need to give them serious incentive.

To make an "official" TA event you need to speak to Swamper.

I like the battle idea.

Again, I want 600 trance/techno fans here.. We own the night. So, we just want enough to make a sick party environment while everyone else returns to their homes, hotels, tents.. or hangs with us.

not 10,000... This fest is also Rock music during the day..

Thank you Euphoria!

Ben

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Originally posted by neocubist Yo, If I planned a "Special" NYTA party on Friday night and it went as long as it wanted to into saturday... Would people go to it even if they planned on going to Tiesto?

See, from square one, one of your mistakes is your perception of TA. At its height and with the most supporters, NYTA's might be able to account for 50-80 people at most. Unfortunately, the 5000 people that go see Tiesto are the ones you need to be marketing to, we're just a tiny minority and our tastes in music and DJs don't necessarily reflect anything that thousands of people will drive 90 miles out of their way to go to.

Ben, your energy and intentions seem to be absolutely in the right place, but your know-how and sense of reality as far as our scene goes is lacking. In 2 pages, you've gone from doing a TA camping trip to getting multi-million dollar CEOs involved, and having Coke and MTV sponsor this thing, in an effort to compete with Tiesto, all while going for the Guinness Book for alternative energy.

Like I mentioned before, doing a party with one small to midlevel headliner in a 300-person venue right smack in the middle of New York City takes months of preparation and doesn't even always yield results. It takes years to be able to throw parties and run venues so that they get those 5, 6, or 700 people that you're saying you saw at Pacha, or the 4000 people at Tiesto parties for that matter. They don't "just come" and you're not realizing that.

If you get MTV and Fuse involved for that matter, that's a different story, but since I was 16 and starting DJing in small clubs, I've had promoters telling me they could deliver the world and fly me out to Morocco and Dubai and get me sponsored by Red Bull (and all that kinda stuff), so when something like this pops up, I'm naturally skeptical, so I apologize for that.

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Originally posted by neocubist I like the battle idea. Again, I want 600 trance/techno fans here.. We own the night. So, we just want enough to make a sick party environment while everyone else returns to their homes, hotels, tents.. or hangs with us. not 10,000... This fest is also Rock music during the day.. Thank you Euphoria! Ben

Ok 600 sounds more feasable your very welcome! If I think of anything else I will let you know.

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Originally posted by DJ Eco In 2 pages, you've gone from doing a TA camping trip to getting multi-million dollar CEOs involved, and having Coke and MTV sponsor this thing, in an effort to compete with Tiesto, all while going for the Guinness Book for alternative energy.

Hey Eco.. I appreciate your help and concerns. Anything you can offer is great.

I never changed my story.. But, I am more or less telling you the full "Scope" of the festival. I am not creating ideas here, these are already in the works.

This is not just an Electronic music fest..

Here is the thing. You automatically assume, because I am talking about a huge fest and hoping that the NYTA will come.. you assume that is all I got.. and I'm some kid who has no idea.

This party is like 1 of 8. There are 5 stages!

If you tell me that at most, I can get 20 people who are on this forum to drive/bus/train up to come to their own party.. sweet.

HELP ME plan your Psy/Trance party.. 1 long evening into the morning.. (I'll take care of the rest)

This is the forum that I go to, to check for events and find new mixes... I figured I would talk to you guys first. Give you a voice. I don't expect you guys to make this event a success on your own. I just want to let you guys throw your own party..

If Tiesto causes a major problem for the NYC area, I will plan accordingly.

Thanks again!

I like the idea, and euphoria has a few good pointers.

Don't you guys do a reunion @ Steve-Neil's place in RI though? 90 miles away seems even closer, just sayin'.

I think with an outdoor event like what you're pitching here, you would have to do some of your promoting for sure @ COSM, and be ready to offer them some goa and psy. They'll go anywhere. The owners of the gallery actually got this huge piece of land upstate where they'll have events too, so I think you should talk to them, maybe have a little new age art expo, and/or artists doing their thing during the event.
Also think about the possibility for offering a shuttle, rent a couple of buses and have them driving back and forth a few times a day. Charge for it to cover any extra expenses the bus rentals may cause. When there's a shuttle, people have less of an excuse to not go.
The PA festivals that used to be held every year are not happening anymore, if you promote it to the right groups of people, you'll get that crowd. Look up Dj CT and Fatjo on Facebook, they do these sorts of things in the NY area; and CT, RI, MA etc with Jack McDevitt. I'm pretty sure they would like to be involved with something like this.

Hey,

I actually know one of the DJ's that does parties at COSM. He is from here. And yes. they have a gallery near Poughkeepsie.. which is 25 minutes away. Great idea getting them involved! Thank You!!

I did plan on having ART, as you can see from my Avatar, I am an oil painter myself.

I do plan on having shuttle buses for Train and Bus ppl..

I actually own one already that my band remodeled into a "Tour Bus".. I would probably set that up for a 10 person party bus from NYC / NJ up to the show. Perhaps a way for people here to arrive.

Thanks again!
Ben

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Originally posted by neocubist 10 person party bus from NYC / NJ

Hawt.
Save me a spot on the bus

if you dont mind, share some info about the resort you've booked? location, website, etc?

Might be worth making the trip down form toronto depending on the details .. i need to come back to the city anyways and im not free until around then ... hmm

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Originally posted by neocubist Hey Eco.. I appreciate your help and concerns. Anything you can offer is great.

Well thanks for understanding, because most people woulda taken my comments the wrong way (as offensive). I was just being realistic, but I trust you if you say you're equipped to pull something like this off, and give you my nod for the best of luck Will be there to support if it goes down (or when, is the word) hehe...

Well if this is an actual organized attempt I can pass the word onto artists on the Get Physical Label...

They always love to do stuff like this.... especially maybe a label "tent"...

Heidi, Phillip, Audiofly, Tiefschwarz etc had a blast at Minitek even though they didn't get paid and it was a mess.



Just an Idea....


Also have contacts with Ton TB who has been trying to bring people off his agency like Mark Norman to NYC...... Lastly I am proud to say I brought Marcel Woods for his US Debut about 4 wmc's ago...

Even though I lost my ass.

This is a great idea, esp if you have the right contacts to make it happen. Maybe link up with as many promoters in the tri-state, I think you can get a large draw from NYC/NJ if your brand name is promoted the right way. Last summer we did some raves in Bear Mountain and had a lot of people drive 1 hour to an unknown location who were not even electronic music fans, they just were excited about the fact to get wasted and party in the forest. I know that in the Dominican Republic the event & festival business model is driven by sponsorships and it works great that way over there. Their large youth focused brands are very open to supporting to electronic music and that is a great thing! I think more American corporations need to open their eyes to the movement.

I agree. Right on!

Well guys, It's my job (with the help of a Corporate CEO spokes person) to sell the sponsorships.

I have to create a business model that is appealing to them. You can not bank of "Exposure" sponsorships. Ads aren't good enough. They need something serious...

Like, they let us "borrow" $50,000 in solar panels to power a small stage during the day (Publicity Stunt)

Those panels would then be donated to "Habitat for Humanity"..

So, they get the Advertising and their money is written off as a donation, not an advertising expense.

We show that we are being supported by big companies & get to use their product as a publicity stunt.. Plus, people know that our event is donating all of the panels to the poor!

So, when finding sponsors, it has to be win-win if you want to score.

Once you have the appearance that the other big companies think its a great idea, they all jump on board. It's the same as going to venture capitalists for money.

Bear Mountain is 30 minutes south. This event would be like that.

Thanks Again!
Ben

ASTRAL PROJECTION / INFECTED MUSHROOM

Possible headliners for the Lake Stage (Friday / Saturday)

What do you guys think of Infected Mushroom?

Ben

i have seen infected mushroom twice so far, nye at webster two or three years ago and after armin at the pool this past summer. they aren't my ideal group, but they are high energy and a pretty solid name. they recently did a show in Syracuse which sold out (it was a small venue, but still)

all in all i guess i approve of IM, as long as there are other "supporting" dj's there

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Originally posted by neocubist ASTRAL PROJECTION / INFECTED MUSHROOM Possible headliners for the Lake Stage (Friday / Saturday) What do you guys think of Infected Mushroom? Ben

Infected Mushroom seem to sell out no matter where they play. They play in New York with like zero publicity or promotion, and somehow their parties are always packed...

However, I've heard their price is steep... Like Tiesto/Armin steep....

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Originally posted by DJ Eco Infected Mushroom seem to sell out no matter where they play. They play in New York with like zero publicity or promotion, and somehow their parties are always packed... However, I've heard their price is steep... Like Tiesto/Armin steep....

Difference is, IM always delivers unlike the other 2

i do not like infected mushroom but astral projection +100000000!!!! insane

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Originally posted by neocubist ASTRAL PROJECTION / INFECTED MUSHROOM Possible headliners for the Lake Stage (Friday / Saturday) What do you guys think of Infected Mushroom? Ben

IM is good but they're gonna cost you, VS. getting 2 DJ's for the price of one who will do the same damage probably for less. Say J00f vs. Christopher Lawrence for example along with other talent.

Will there be visuals or lasers?

Important question here! Will this venue have SHOWERS? Imagining dancing with people who haven't showered in 3 days is going to be teh yuck

if you're looking for a good deep house / chill out DJ let me know!

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