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Originally posted by Subtle Was there something that did not make sense to you ?

A compressor can be used in different ways for shades of effect, but in general I would say the result is quite noticeable, even using relatively subtle settings.

then why does a compressor bring up the noise floor. even if it a sine wave with no dynamics. that is effecting frequencies.

it'nt adding those frequencies tho. Just making them more noticeable. Of course every compressor will somehow change the spectral content but that wouldn't really be what it is used for.I think you know that tho and are just being a buzz kill

i'm just curious cause you can't do that with just volume, and people are saying it does nothing but lower the volume above the threshold. is it really just an automated volume knob? i dont think so

essentially. That isn't to say they don't colour things but that is a personal choice of the designer and it is usually to emulate the old compressors everyone has a hardon for. But yes, a compressor is pretty much an annoying mom that is always turning down the music except she has taken some sort of stimulant and she does it really really fast. She also has OCD and turns the volume back up whenever it gets too low because ants really enjoy low music.

hope that clears things up.

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Originally posted by mysticalninja i'm just curious cause you can't do that with just volume, and people are saying it does nothing but lower the volume above the threshold. is it really just an automated volume knob? i dont think so

Check my first post at the second page of this thread

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Originally posted by Raphie Curious what that is then, since there is no standard recipe for compression settings. every compressor has different character and every instrument needs different treatment.

It has nothing to do with a particular setting. It has to do with modifying each setting in particular order so that you can hear each turn of the knob very definitively.

1. Set the attack to the lowest setting, release to lowest setting, ratio to it's highest setting.
2. Turn down the threshold to activate the compressor.
3. Tune the attack.
4. Tune the release.
5. Tune the ratio.
5. Tune the threshold.

This is from "Mixing With Your Mind."

that means absolutely nothing to anyone that doesn't already know why they would use a certain setting.

you won't understand how to use a compressor until you understand what problem it can fix.

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Originally posted by Theran Check my first post at the second page of this thread

THis one?

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"That's actually a equalizer or a sidechain compressor, a normal compressor doesn't eliminate frequencies, it - as it says - compresses the sound. It basicly does the following: If you take a sound, in the waveform there are lot's of peaks, some higher that the other."

I'm not talking about an equalizer or a sidechain compressor. I'm talking about a sound with no peaks, no parts higher than others, a pure sinewave "block". A compressor will bring its noisefloor up. you can't do that with an automated volume knob. what is it doing?

you lost me at sound with no peaks

what is the hz of the sinewave.
What is the peak value
what is the threshhold
was is the attack
what is the dbfs of the noise level

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Originally posted by derail A compressor lowers the volume when the incoming signal goes over the compressor's threshold. People think compression is this magic "gel", that it does things to frequencies, all these other things. A compressor turns the volume down when the incoming audio is loud enough, when it's over the specified threshold. That's it. That's all. Yes, HOW it turns the volume down, how quickly, how much, and how quickly the volume is turned back up when the incoming audio gets quieter and drops back below the threshold, will affect what the end result will be. And, as a result of turning the volume down when the audio is loud, but leaving the volume at full when the audio is quiet, the signal is "compressed". The dynamic range is reduced. Then you can turn the volume up and the average level of the audio will be higher. There are exotic "compressors" which may only affect certain frequencies, or have other modifications. But standard compressors only turn the volume down. That's all they do.

+1 People who know what they are talking about are cool.

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Originally posted by RichieV you lost me at sound with no peaks what is the hz of the sinewave. What is the peak value what is the threshhold was is the attack what is the dbfs of the noise level

You don't know how to make music or design sounds, of course you are lost. Learn to type and use proper punctuation also, you are not a little kid. [Or are you?]

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Originally posted by cronodevir You don't know how to make music or design sounds, of course you are lost. Learn to type and use proper punctuation also, you are not a little kid. [Or are you?]

So a sine wave , using your logic is essential silence? Was it your intention to sound this stupid or should I at least wait for an edit. What would you call this then ?

http://www.zshare.net/image/59236695374fc436

i wonder what you would call something at the top of the wave form. I am thinking it probablt starts with a P and has 4 letters.



Remember that discussion we had detailing the fact that you produce as a hobby. And then that post where you ask for people to somehow magically unclip your material thru some magic process. And then that idiot rant about latency of which among the entire comunnity , you werer the only one to disagree.Do you just forget all those instances or complete insaness ? And then this latest display of genius , a sinewave with no peak. I wonder what they call the peak of the sine wave then ? Da top ?

I suppose i must suck. It would be really fun to hear the shit you apprantly aren't making money on. Would probably put alot of us in our place. Show us what high latency can really do right

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Originally posted by RichieV So a sine wave , using your logic is essential silence? Was it your intention to sound this stupid or should I at least wait for an edit. What would you call this then ? http://www.zshare.net/image/59236695374fc436 i wonder what you would call something at the top of the wave form. I am thinking it probablt starts with a P and has 4 letters. Remember that discussion we had detailing the fact that you produce as a hobby. And then that post where you ask for people to somehow magically unclip your material thru some magic process. And then that idiot rant about latency of which among the entire comunnity , you werer the only one to disagree.Do you just forget all those instances or complete insaness ? And then this latest display of genius , a sinewave with no peak. I wonder what they call the peak of the sine wave then ? Da top ? I suppose i must suck. It would be really fun to hear the shit you apprantly aren't making money on. Would probably put alot of us in our place. Show us what high latency can really do right

lol you win the thread.

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Originally posted by mysticalninja then why does a compressor bring up the noise floor. even if it a sine wave with no dynamics. that is effecting frequencies.

If you zoom in on the sine wave, you'll see it's not at full volume all the time. It'll be shaped like a sine wave (funnily enough).

So the sine wave does have dynamics, and running it through a compressor will change the waveform, and change the sound. Depending how hard you push the compressor, it could flatten off/square off the tops of the sine wave.

When you then raise the volume after compression, the noise floor will have been brought up (since the quieter parts will be raised in volume more than the louder parts), and the frequency balance of the sound will also be changed. But this is a byproduct of the compression, not a result of compressors doing anything to frequencies - think about the controls on a typical compressor. They're all related to volume. If they were intended to process sounds based on their frequency content, wouldn't a lot of them offer engineers some control over this parameter? There are a few compressors which can be set to only affect certain frequencies, but these tools have added something (probably a notch/bandpass filter?) to the compressor. Typical compressors just turn the volume down.

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Originally posted by RichieV crap

The village idiot blows a sprocket. Don't forget to wear your dunce hat.

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Originally posted by Stef lol you win the thread.

i know you meant well! But somehow winning a thread with cronodir ...
There is just something wrong about it. Like describing to a blind person how you have your eyes closed and how shitty of a time you are having. I believe in helping those that are not quite as lucky as most people here. I also believe that god punishes bad people so i'm pretty fucking confused.

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Originally posted by cronodevir The village idiot blows a sprocket.

ironic how the idiot is somehow making money with his idiotic brain and the idiotic musical ideas that come out of it. Is it typical for the village idiot to make a living doing what the supposed non idiot, that would be you who made it very clear he wished he could do.

Maybe i am just not being very good at my job. The problem is that as the village idiot, I am invariably at the mercy of the non idiot (again that would be you), at not being even more idiotic. So until you show this village idiot some compassion, and by that i mean stop treating the "act of being completely idiotic" as a sporting event, well i just don't think a dumbass like myself will ever be able to do my job as good as i could.

I also think it is strange that the idiot is somehow fucking the non idiot's pregnant sister in the glotis. Or maybe that was your mom. I really am too dumb to tell. I 'm pretty sure it doesn't only has a half formed antler so maybe it is in fact just your sister.

Plenty of idiots make music, its called rap music. And because they do it doesn't mean they have any idea how to actually make music. It just means their listeners don't have any concept of what good music is. Ontop of that they are among the richest of musicians.

Its interesting you categorize yourself, RichieV, with these idiotic rappers. Is your stage name RichieBling?

maybe that symbol you think represents your IQ actually is a letter. Wouldn't that be crazy. SOmeone that has the last or middle initial in their name. My stagename? that would depend where i am dancing. You have to slow down. I can't keep up.

hey unrelated question, when does your album drop?

It probably wont, unsalvageable music is unsalvageable. Most of the time I release a song as is, I decided to release a compilation of my stuff, but some stuff can't be fixed, so I'm a couple tracks short. Every track I have , I do not have the project files for [some of this stuff is from years and years ago] So I only have the low bi mp3s. And as mentioned in the thread, some tracks clip quiet a bit. IE. I am waiting until I make a few more tracks.

I probably won't post it here, since not a single song is trance. Besides that everything is available now anyways, if you want to hear the originals or the mastered versions just PM me.

I'm pretty sure people listen to other things than trance. I'm even wiling to be tthere are people here that could give you some pointers.

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Originally posted by cronodevir Its interesting you categorize yourself, RichieV,

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Originally posted by cronodevir some tracks clip quiet a bit.

LULZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Compressors consistently and reliably volumize multiband frequency punch while gluing together competing tonal and spectral matrices and emphasizing the circumlocutory texture. They do this by eliminating unnecessary sampling artifacts and digital noise, reducing low-oscillating pariahs, and reversing or rounding ambient semitones, leaving the mastering engineer with a smooth, warm, perfectly gelled sound.

You can accomplish this same effect without expensive hardware by popping a huge salvia bong hit and chasing with a can of Redline.

Hah

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Originally posted by cronodevir Hah

I'm not getting into a discussion with you again, but I don't like your attitude, that's all!

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