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lol


thought so.

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Originally posted by RichieV lol thought so.

I suppose telling a guy to go out and get a job is sexist too...

Auch, too much hostility here!

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Originally posted by Kismet7 Anyhow im done

Not the first time you've said that, is it.

Funny how it's always you who seems to get into these situations around here...

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Originally posted by cronodevir Go to Germany for instance and say "only 5,999,999 Jews died in ww2", and you can be jailed.

http://www.tranceaddict.com/forum/s...69&forumid=8&s=

actually, what i like about edm is that there isn't so much of a persona, leaving us to concentrate on the music

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Originally posted by RichieV The point I'm making is that despite everything you've said and done, you should not be too hard on yourself for even tho you might be quite the asshole, the talent , that is once you actually start making songs, or mixes or flyers for events that don't exist showing said talent that is somewhat invisible right now, will override any of those other qualities that make you understandably quite revolting.

Sig worthy!!

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Originally posted by Kismet7 the success would humble me enough to think twice about what I say

obviously ur not successful

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Originally posted by Mr.Mystery Not the first time you've said that, is it. Funny how it's always you who seems to get into these situations around here...

Well i'm sure its because you are oblivious to the fact that some annoying nerds like to stroke my nuts, when i'd much rather prefer they would'nt. So yes it is ironic I get into these situations, when 100% of it is incited by some bored nerd.

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Originally posted by palm obviously ur not successful

Neither are you ;p

But I will be someday, how about you?

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Originally posted by hasbone actually, what i like about edm is that there isn't so much of a persona, leaving us to concentrate on the music

Exactly, gotta love EDM and Underground Music in general. It is about the music first and foremost.

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Originally posted by Kismet7 Neither are you ;p

how the hell do you know that? ive succeded in all things ive putted some effort into. by now music is not one of them.

Christ, WTF is going on around here?

Yes, the thread topic was undoubtedly lame, but there's a lot negative energy here - I think you guys need to hold hands and sing Kum ba ya


Back OT - if you treat people like cvnts (kind of like the mac purchase story in all honesty), then people will think you are a cvnt, and unless you have some fucking amazing talent or the rights to something that people just can't live without (cure for aids and cancer) then really people aren't going to want to know you, period.

I'm surprised Richie that you aren't more adept at being PC as a composer - I work with a lot of them and only the top guys get to forget about being nice all of the time (because they can). In the scoring industry it goes a long way if you're known as being a good person to work with....it sometimes outweighs the talented assholes and I know of several situations where people have lost big gigs over it.....

The guys who get really far in any industry, especially this one, are talented and good people to deal with - being a wanker seriously damages your career.

And Chrono? At it again? Please. Have you ever even been to germany? Of course to you their all still Nazi's, at least when it comes to being PC.

You forget that Europeans have freedom of speech and INDEPENDENT media meaning we probably have more rights than the US when it comes to saying what we want.

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Originally posted by palm how the hell do you know that? ive succeded in all things ive putted some effort into. by now music is not one of them.

this thread is about success in music, obviously.

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Originally posted by Kismet7 this thread is about success in music, obviously.

which i could probably have if i werent so lazy and in love with alcohol.

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Originally posted by palm which i could probably have if i werent so lazy and in love with alcohol.

Then get drunk and make music All decent British music has been made this way for several hundred years.

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Originally posted by DJ RANN Christ, WTF is going on around here? Yes, the thread topic was undoubtedly lame, but there's a lot negative energy here - I think you guys need to hold hands and sing Kum ba ya Back OT - if you treat people like cvnts (kind of like the mac purchase story in all honesty), then people will think you are a cvnt, and unless you have some fucking amazing talent or the rights to something that people just can't live without (cure for aids and cancer) then really people aren't going to want to know you, period. I'm surprised Richie that you aren't more adept at being PC as a composer - I work with a lot of them and only the top guys get to forget about being nice all of the time (because they can). In the scoring industry it goes a long way if you're known as being a good person to work with....it sometimes outweighs the talented assholes and I know of several situations where people have lost big gigs over it..... The guys who get really far in any industry, especially this one, are talented and good people to deal with - being a wanker seriously damages your career. And Chrono? At it again? Please. Have you ever even been to germany? Of course to you their all still Nazi's, at least when it comes to being PC. You forget that Europeans have freedom of speech and INDEPENDENT media meaning we probably have more rights than the US when it comes to saying what we want.

I disagree with the topic being lame, and here is why... it is an observation of Underground Music Artist Ethics and Culture. And it seems to be something no one else has talked about on this forum, which makes it a super awesome topic. I mean how great is it that in Underground Music people can be themselves and still be successful, which is the point of this topic, (how is that lame?). And the topic also makes the point to future successful artists that they don't have to follow the conditioned nature that artists follow in more mainstream music industries and cultures. Also that the fact that people who see you as a cvnt, has very LITTLE relevance towards your success or failure, since the music speaks for itself.

Anyhow, finally someone is actually discussing the topic, instead of another bored lowlife attacking me

i never liked hooligan music anyway though. besides i have better things to do when drinking. like arguing why some people get gay. its all about an absent father or a father too "involving". girls get mad when saying that, somehow gays are their friends so theyre supporting them and saying its a fault from birth. but no its environment im sure.

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Originally posted by DJ RANN And Chrono? At it again? Please. Have you ever even been to germany? Of course to you their all still Nazi's, at least when it comes to being PC. You forget that Europeans have freedom of speech and INDEPENDENT media meaning we probably have more rights than the US when it comes to saying what we want.

Europe invented Political Correctness and then they brought it to America. Europe and their fucking guilt trip pansy ass feeling sorry because of the holey WW2 fiasco.

Do you know in Germany if you talk bad about a Jew you can actually be send to Israel for so called "hate speech"..how pathetic.

Europe is an Orwellian society through and through. You better not say anything that goes against the trends, or the thought police will get you.

I prefer to call it ideologically sensitive rather than politically correct - that's the more ideologically sensitive way to refer to something that carries so much baggage.

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Originally posted by EddieZilker I prefer to call it ideologically sensitive rather than politically correct - that's the more ideologically sensitive way to refer to something that carries so much baggage.

I like to call it ethical conditioning. But political correctness description is more understandable by people.

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Originally posted by Kismet7 I disagree with the topic being lame, and here is why... it is an observation of Underground Music Artist Ethics and Culture. And it seems to be something no one else has talked about on this forum, which makes it a super awesome topic. I mean how great is it that in Underground Music people can be themselves and still be successful, which is the point of this topic, (how is that lame?). And the topic also makes the point to future successful artists that they don't have to follow the conditioned nature that artists follow in more mainstream music industries and cultures. Also that the fact that people who see you as a cvnt, has very LITTLE relevance towards your success or failure, since the music speaks for itself. Anyhow, finally someone is actually discussing the topic, instead of another bored lowlife attacking me

It is kind of lame, because it's just common sense in the broad possible meaning and is not exclusive to EDM. I've had many different different careers in the last 14 years or so, and when looking at people's success (including mine), the one common stand between those who do well and those that don't, is how they are able to interact with other people and get along. I did say clearly however that if you're so that talented that people just can't bear to be without what you are able to provide, then yes, you can get away with not giving a shit about how you are perceived....but I still believe you get further by talented, hardworking and a good person to know.

But the topic is also kind of lame, because it does not ask to address you're a nice person or easy to deal with, just if you are PC, which s NOT the same thing.

Being PC just means not saying something that could be found offensive. yes, it's got out of control in some instances, but being offensive can often be based on personal perspective. It's really not that difficult to be unoffensive in this life, especially when your livelihood depends on it (which is what the question is getting at).

so it is kind of a (not totally) lame topic as it just makes sense not to be offensive when you want to work with other people. If someone has trouble doing that as part of their general existance then I would suggest some professional help, not looking on the internet for answers., if you get what i mean?

PC for me has always been not saying something that the state or media do not want you to say. For instance, in America the media likes Homosexuals, and the media thinks they should get married. Despite the fact that in 49 [maby 48] states, homosexuality is still considered a mental illness, and its illegal. But because the media gives such a tiny tiny tiny minority of people so much coverage, it actually becomes a crime to speak out against it.

So in America, if you say homosexuality, a mental illness according to 93% of the country, is bad. Then you can be jailed or fined for hate speech in many states. Hate Speech itself is a crime invented as a result of Political Correctness.

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Originally posted by DJ RANN It is kind of lame, because it's just common sense in the broad possible meaning and is not exclusive to EDM. I've had many different different careers in the last 14 years or so, and when looking at people's success (including mine), the one common stand between those who do well and those that don't, is how they are able to interact with other people and get along. I did say clearly however that if you're so that talented that people just can't bear to be without what you are able to provide, then yes, you can get away with not giving a shit about how you are perceived....but I still believe you get further by talented, hardworking and a good person to know. But the topic is also kind of lame, because it does not ask to address you're a nice person or easy to deal with, just if you are PC, which s NOT the same thing. Being PC just means not saying something that could be found offensive. yes, it's got out of control in some instances, but being offensive can often be based on personal perspective. It's really not that difficult to be unoffensive in this life, especially when your livelihood depends on it (which is what the question is getting at). so it is kind of a (not totally) lame topic as it just makes sense not to be offensive when you want to work with other people. If someone has trouble doing that as part of their general existance then I would suggest some professional help, not looking on the internet for answers., if you get what i mean?

This isn't about people in the studio behind the scenes, and the way they handle their relationships with coworkers, i'm talking about people who are famous in their respective genres, and have some sort of commercially viable image to maintain. The topic has flown over your head so far. Underground Artists and for the most part EDM artists don't have that sort of image to maintain. It goes furthur into, a lot of EDM artists not even being attractive to look at, yet they still can be successful. Mainstream artists have to have some visual candy to be successful these days. So yah, what you don't understand can be lame, no doubt.

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