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Posted by Skipper on May-04-2009 01:47:

quote:
Originally posted by chinamon
well, thats pretty much what weed does to you. you cant avoid that.


I only mean it detracts from what I understood the original purpose of the march to be - to decriminalize marijuana, for medicinal or private home use.

Not for getting utterly retarded in public and making idiots of yourself by being a stereotypical stoner.


Posted by nicole_n on May-04-2009 01:52:

Sooo on a review note...

Good times, fun thing to do on a saturday afternoon. Fun to do something different, meet new ppl, see different crowds...everyone had their own style and quirkiness.

Danced a lot, talked a lot...etc

Also saw a girl being carried on a stretcher?? Od on weed??? hmmm...prob not.

Overall, good times..and hilarious to see so many people stoned in one spot


Posted by Aleksandra on May-04-2009 02:18:

looooooooooved it <3


Posted by Orko on May-04-2009 14:33:

You fuckin geezers complaing about young people need to try and remember your youth. OMG so many teens, i feel so out of place!


The festival was great IMO. I have been a few times before, and I really enjoy myself each time. The vibe was awesome, lots of people just wanting to be out, enjoy the sunshine in a free, and open environment. I think this really does show how well behaved any large group can be, given the right goals and set up.

The parade itself was fun, as it always is. Getting to stroll down Bloor/Young like that, has a special feeling. Strength in numbers. There were lots of people on their horns, cheering along with the parade, they were in addition to the Yorkville crowd that stood and watched in confusion as their stores were surrounded by marchers.

I was diggin the music at the house tent, and actually noticed that the crowd was just a bit older there too. Spent a good chunk of the day near by (in between jerk chicken), and saw only a few TA's. Brought some friends who were not so into house, but they really enjoyed the overall experience. A drink, a smoke, some good music, and some food.

Pretty good day out!

quote:
Originally posted by Skipper
I only mean it detracts from what I understood the original purpose of the march to be - to decriminalize marijuana, for medicinal or private home use.

Not for getting utterly retarded in public and making idiots of yourself by being a stereotypical stoner.


There was literature, and enough people out advertising Bill C-359. More people than I thought were aware of the bill, and actually took time to listen about it. Did you talk to anybody? Did you take the time to find out anything, or just stroll by judge and move on?

So sad, they ate tones of food! So what? Local business benefited, it was win win for most people involved.

The other part of the festival that you are clearly missing, is that this showed that people smoking pot do not have to be destructive, but instead can be cooperative. People just chilled out, enjoyed a smoke, and had a picnic in the park, how is that a bad thing?


Posted by me@t k@tie on May-04-2009 14:45:

Did you end up going to Salad King?


Posted by Orko on May-04-2009 15:06:

Haha, no went for dosa's (indian food) in sauga. Probably ate 2-3 people's worth of food.


Posted by Skipper on May-04-2009 15:38:

quote:
Originally posted by Orko
Did you take the time to find out anything, or just stroll buy judge and move on?


I judged and moved on, and you should get used to that because that's what the public is generally going to do when it comes to issues like this. You have to find a way around that if you want to get the right message out. The message from the whole thing was that it was an excuse to get retarded.


Posted by nifty narcotix on May-04-2009 16:05:

quote:
Originally posted by Skipper
I judged and moved on......The message from the whole thing was that it was an excuse to get retarded.


Not at all. When you go to an edm club, do you go to get retarded? Or do you go to enjoy the music and the company of some good people with similar interests? Why should this be any different?

The fact is, so many different people smoke pot, most of which were not at queens park. And even if laws aren't changed in the near future, I think the event was very successful in showing that such a diverse group of people, pretty much covering every age, ethnicity, and musical preference for that matter, can come together and peacefully protest. I can't think of any other event where you'd see punks, thugs, high school kids, whackjobs, and the average adult all hanging out together without conflict. That must count for something.

And I do agree that there were a number of people missing the point. But you kind of are too. The vast majority of the people there came to be part a peaceful, well organized protest. Probably one of the biggest this city has ever had. A lot of people use a lot of different events as an excuse to get retarded (Beer Festival for example). It's unfair to use this small sample to judge the group as a whole.


Posted by Anas Attia on May-04-2009 16:40:

quote:
Originally posted by me@t k@tie

Salad King is great! my crew and I went mid-festivities


Posted by ~C~ on May-04-2009 16:48:

I LOVED IT!!! it was a fucking circus. People watching was the best part about it. Well, dancing in the sun (after the rain f'd off) baked, in front of the BPM tent was great too It was my first year....and i thought it was good times. I wanted to go last year, but the downpour was a bit much. I will def. be there next year weather permitting! I didn't see any police presence inside the park, just outside, which was great.

I'll post pics and vids as soon as they're uploaded.


Posted by Orko on May-04-2009 16:54:

quote:
Originally posted by ~C~
! I didn't see any police presence inside the park, just outside, which was great.


Later in the evening, bike cops were riding around inside the park, which I had not seen in previous years.


Posted by Intangible on May-04-2009 16:58:

I need someone to explain to me how this event is legal.

I've never been, but I'm assuming people are smoking right in the open? So why do the police let this happen? To me it really sends mixed messages.


Posted by ~C~ on May-04-2009 17:03:

Dude dancing in front of the BPM tent


Posted by UmmiE on May-04-2009 17:05:


Posted by jsibilin on May-04-2009 17:23:

so late on this review .. I got there around 2 ish and noticed how many friggin people there were. Omg about 20k people i bet! enjoyed tunes from the bpm stage and walked around .. got wicked roti, but had too many bones. I also got a super sweet lemonade Met up with friends from all over. Best part of the day was when it started raining and 420 came..didn't care about getting wet. didn't care about the crazies.. or the young kids.. did anyone see marc emery?

This talk about the legal system and crap is a waste of time. All you need to know is that its up to the cop to decide whether hes going to bust u , or ticket u. There was some cute girls asking me for weed.. so I am like.. do not pay me,just roll what i got. I must of smoked a quarter when i was there. weed all over me on my pants-pockets-jacket! left the place around 6 ish and decided to goto sleep at 9pm hahahah


Posted by Skipper on May-04-2009 17:29:

quote:
Originally posted by nifty narcotix

And I do agree that there were a number of people missing the point. But you kind of are too.


Of course I missed the point, because the message from the festival says "I have the legal right to be an idiot" - and I know that was not the original intent of the march. But the crowd that attends has taken over and this is the message they send, that it's about snacking and giggling and a big FU to the law. Is it any wonder the general public doesn't give a sh*t then?


Posted by Ozmozis on May-04-2009 17:59:

quote:
Originally posted by Skipper
Of course I missed the point, because the message from the festival says "I have the legal right to be an idiot" - and I know that was not the original intent of the march. But the crowd that attends has taken over and this is the message they send, that it's about snacking and giggling and a big FU to the law. Is it any wonder the general public doesn't give a sh*t then?


She makes a valid point.


Posted by FunkyCrew on May-04-2009 18:23:

quote:
Originally posted by Skipper
But the crowd that attends has taken over and this is the message they send, that it's about snacking and giggling and a big FU to the law.


I agree with that. I mean all the reviews are like "it was fun, we danced baked and had a good time". Not really the point of this march, eh?


Posted by ~C~ on May-04-2009 18:42:

quote:
Originally posted by FunkyCrew
I agree with that. I mean all the reviews are like "it was fun, we danced baked and had a good time". Not really the point of this march, eh?


ya, i'm not going to lie. I really didn't give a shit about the March. I'm not an activist in any way shape or form. lol. I went to have a good time, here some beats, be outside. I mostly went to catch Manzone and Strong...or should i say Strong....and just to check it out in general, since i missed it last year. It was just another excuse to smoke weed outdoors. Just with a lot more ppl! I don't understand why ppl are hating on this event though. It's a bunch of stoners enjoying themselves outdoors. What's the harm in that! I'd rather be at an outdoor festival full of stoners over sloppy, obnoxious, destructive drunks any day! Stoners are harmless, sometimes a little strange, but happy and harmless none the less. Cops in THIS CITY, not every city, but in Toronto are already extremely lenient with pot laws, so making it legal really makes no difference to me.


Posted by Skipper on May-04-2009 19:01:

quote:
Originally posted by ~C~
What's the harm in that!


The harm is that people ignore what is meant to be the actual point of the march because it looks like most people at the march don't take it seriously (you being a prime example).

Must be bittersweet for the people more serious about the cause itself - lots more people coming, which is great, but not necessarily attracting the kind of attention they are hoping for.


Posted by FunkyCrew on May-04-2009 19:03:

quote:
Originally posted by Skipper
The harm is that people ignore what is meant to be the actual point of the march because it looks like most people at the march don't take it seriously (you being a prime example).

Must be bittersweet for the people more serious about the cause itself - lots more people coming, which is great, but not necessarily attracting the kind of attention they are hoping for.


agreed on all points!

C - I'm glad you had fun, regardless I'm just saying that the march loses it's meaning when it just becomes "just for fun" kind of event


Posted by Shaya007 on May-04-2009 19:16:

quote:
Originally posted by ~C~
sometimes a little strange, ...


ok stories?


Posted by ~C~ on May-04-2009 19:22:

quote:
Originally posted by FunkyCrew
agreed on all points!

C - I'm glad you had fun, regardless I'm just saying that the march loses it's meaning when it just becomes "just for fun" kind of event


i follow parties, not politics :P I do see what u and Skipper are saying as well. But isn't that why there's a March........and a Festival. March = politics. Freedom Festival = Fun.


Posted by FunkyCrew on May-04-2009 20:29:

quote:
Originally posted by ~C~
But isn't that why there's a March........and a Festival. March = politics. Freedom Festival = Fun.


true true


Posted by nifty narcotix on May-04-2009 20:41:

On a lighter note, it stopped raining and the sun came out right before 420, and (Fab Strong I think) played a remix/mashup of Bob Marley - Exodus, and life was good.


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