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Originally posted by 8Wonders I agree, some very unusual universe changes. Spock and Ohura a couple?

Let the man love the black booty in peace!

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Originally posted by 8Wonders Spock and Ohura a couple?

lol I can totally picture Paramount execs sitting in a boardroom being like "all this movie is missing is a side love story"...

Hands down the stupidest scene is when Scotty gets beamed into that engineering water pipe... I almost walked out right there lol

fucking unbelievable!!!

Im gonna go see it again this week lol. Fuck wolverine, this is the movie to watch. Its gonna give all the summer blockbusters a run for their money thats for sure. And RT gave it 100% too

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Originally posted by King_Mack RT gave it 100% too

RT's biggest blunder imo lol 'Star Trek' rating higher than 'the Godfather', fuck off!

I agree with you there man

I actually went back to the site, it dropped down to 95%. Godfather is still at 100%

haha did you hax0r it or something?

haha they must have realized the whole credibility of their site hanged in the balance of that 1 review...

....with the help of your threatening emails

Re: Went to watch it yesterday...

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Originally posted by MattVagrant Thought it was great. Definitely a fantastic and intriguing expansion on the (two?) most engaging character(s) of the franchise, and the history behind that whole crew. Easily one of the best movies from that whole line too...

well, is it really the history?



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Since they came back and changed the past it doesn't really give a back ground to how they met since technically we still don't know how it was set up in the beginning.

Old Spock even said that things were different where he came from.

great movie 4 out of 4 stars.....
you dont have to be a sci fi fan to like this movie.....

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Originally posted by jon jon the bad - romulus and vulcan being destroyed haha so stupid - the movie missed the mark when it comes to highlighting what makes Star Trek brilliant, it's mythologies/ideologies were lost in a sea of character cliches and action scenes

1. Yeah, see, the way trek usually handles that is by travelling back in time again and 'cleaning' the time line. A cheesy cop out for sure, I'm sure in the future after the past has been changed they'd know what they were doing in how to restore the past anyway. As Margs said the 'real' Spock's past is different.

2. I agree completely

watching Spock on fringe was Oh much more fun than this crap!

movie rocked...and like someone mentioned, sound effects were one of the best I've ever heard in a film.

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Originally posted by jon jon the bad - the movie missed the mark when it comes to highlighting what makes Star Trek brilliant, it's mythologies/ideologies were lost in a sea of character cliches and action scenes

agreed with all of jon jon's points but this one stands out the most

the hardcore trekkie in me is still going WTF. only saving grace is that this is supposedly an alternate universe storyline

didnt like the action driven movie thing much. however, i still enjoyed the movie mostly, once i got over my initial wtf

i love star trek because it makes you think. i didn't think once during this movie. lame

did anyone else catch the red matter thing was a rip off from Alias plotline?

and that giant blackhole thing was a direct rip off from Wing Commander Prophecy? actually, the huge ship looked almost exactly like the big ass Nephilim ship from Prophecy

honestly, a big meh from me. 7/10 at the most.

ST has to stop making prequels. go forward with the timeline and make up some stuff. there's soooooo many options for an interesting series/movie if they just keep going into the future.

I'm a huge fan of Abrams and a big Star Trek fan too, but I have to agree 100% with everything Jon Jon said. Bang on, buddy. I was still 'entertained'...but it didn't impact me on an emotional/trek level as the other movies did. Still, I'd rather watch this flic than say, Star Trek V any day.

Did anyone else notice a massive amount of 'reflections' obscuring almost every shot? Holy use of lens flares batman!

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Originally posted by Ni-Cd Did anyone else notice a massive amount of 'reflections' obscuring almost every shot? Holy use of lens flares batman!

YES..holy crap...and what was with spock crouching the first time he teleported? yes it did make for a cinematic scene when he landed on vulcan but still..


The whole pike story being so damn different annoyed me. since they kept mentioning this being an alternate reality, they should've called this "Star Trek: in JJ Abram's (who never liked star trek anyway) Universe"

I liked the character portrayal as they maintained the minor details in behaviour but obviously did it in a younger mindframe

I enjoyed it but the fight scenes were cheese.

That fact that Chekov should only be 10 and Kirk really only made captain at 34 threw the whole plot of course but now I guess they can take all the next movies on a new direction. It was entertaining and served its purpose. Scotty going through the water tubes was lol. Pew pew.

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Originally posted by smuncky honestly, a big meh from me. 7/10 at the most. ST has to stop making prequels. go forward with the timeline and make up some stuff. there's soooooo many options for an interesting series/movie if they just keep going into the future.

They should take Star Trek waaaayyyyy into the future. Perhaps even after the 29th century. The Q were obsessed with the human race and said that humanity would be, for lack of a better term, "big shots" in their distant futures. Would humans evolve into something like the Q? Knowledge so vast that they could be just as "god-like" as the Q were. In the series, time travel was almost routine... at least for the time-cops of the Federation. It would be neat to hypothesise a human race 10,000 years from now. Perhaps folding space or other things equally as powerful. Maybe they would not be corporeal anymore and evolve into beings of energy just like the Vorlons or the Minbari in Babylon 5, one hundred thousand or one million years in their future (I forget the number).

Sheldon and I saw it last night and thought it was great!

They did an excellent job casting the crew, the only thing I didn't like that much was Spock being so emotional?

Still give it 8/10 though.....

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Originally posted by cammaxwell They did an excellent job casting the crew, the only thing I didn't like that much was Spock being so emotional?

I haven't seen it yet, but it's funny they'd cast him like that. In the 1960's show Spock was always hardcore... only slipping up because of a fucked up outside influence.

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Originally posted by Ni-Cd Still, I'd rather watch this flic than say, Star Trek V any day.

haha Is that the one w/ the whales? That's the best 'sunday movie' ever! (and yeah it's shit, but I've probably seen it 4 thousand times)

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Originally posted by Ni-Cd Did anyone else notice a massive amount of 'reflections' obscuring almost every shot? Holy use of lens flares batman!

YES, this was so annoying... this trend better not blow up in Hollywood, it's already been overkilled in music videos...

For all people saying they should take Trek way into the future... come on, our sci-fi writers are already running out of ideas for 24th-century technology, I think it's next to impossible for anybody to even imagine what Y3K is going to look like.

I realize they broke continuity, but it's not like other movies didn't. What about First Contact? As for character clich�s, the original series was nothing BUT character clich�s! I actually thought they kept it to a minimum here, just throwing in the occasional nod to the old clich�es because they sort of had to, and that the acting here was a thousand times more convincing than any of the other movies or series.

One criticism I do agree with was the absence of the ever-present futuristic and utopian philosophies that have always been at the core of Star Trek. This movie didn't really test any serious moral or ethical questions, nor did it really do any of the scientific speculation (er... sci-fi) that TNG was so famous for. As far as the "science" goes in this movie, it's more of a hey, check out this flashy futuristic product and/or weapon - which to be fair, felt more realistic as it's exactly how we treat today's technology, but Star Trek was never about realism. As Yohan said, this movie doesn't really make you think at all; in that respect it's almost more of an action flick than sci-fi.

The shots of the ships, space dock, learning pods, and so on, I must say were pretty awe-inspiring. I think the attention to detail was what impressed me the most, because historically it's always been left as an afterthought.

I'd give it an 8/10. They lose one point for the lame-ass villains and another point for screwing up the continuity and not even trying to fix it by the end. It's still unmistakably Star Trek, and while they screwed up a number of things, they also improved on many others.

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Originally posted by �Zm�zis STAR WARS OWNS STAR TREK!

No, no it really does not.

Alright, so I'm a big Star Trek fan and I don't care about admitting it. You'd be surprised at how many people, even in the supposed "adult age ranges" (I'm nearly 27) still snicker if you mention that you like Star Trek.

Anyway, I'm well acquainted with all of the Series. I hold the original episodes and movies with the original cast to the highest standard when it comes to personal enjoyment. Nothing beats Kirk, Spock and McCoy (and the rest of the cast). I'd say that I enjoy DS9 and TNG equally, but the TNG movies were mostly disappointing (Generations, Nemesis) and outright weak (Insurrection, many LAME episodes...too many to roll off the top of my head). I thought Voyager was shit but watchable and Enterprise was whacked out but also watchable.

The story of this original Trek reboot was pretty simplistic, but it worked well enough to introduce all the characters. I hope they make the sequel about something else OTHER than a Khan rehash that's been talked about in interviews as of late. The cast was actually fucking impressive and I had my doubts going in. Chris Pine nailed Kirk and the choice was obviously made by the creative staff for him to emulate Shatner. He did and it works well. Some of the lines and delivery just feels like Kirk. The same goes for Spock and definitely McCoy. Sulu was cool, Uhura was hot and Chekov's accent made me want to beat that actor over the head with a stick. There was too much Chekov and not enough Scotty, in my opinion. Nimoy felt a little out of place and unnecessary, but still nice to see him deliver one last appearance.

The effects were top notch, the action was plentiful. The editing was a little chopppy but that seems to be the style these days. I guess I'll have to get used to the soundtrack, but I was hoping to hear more of the established themes throughout the movie. I understand that they have to distinguish themselves and have their own themes though. The Spock and Uhura romance felt fucking weird and just...well weird and random. But it doesn't RUIN anything and people who say it does are silly fanboys.

Overall, I was pleased with it. For an "origin reimagining" as the producers liked to term it, it re-set the story in which to explore new adventures with the original characters. Since those are my personal favourites, I'm excited to see what's next in terms of sequels. I will be disappointed if the next one isn't notably better than its predecessor.

8.5/10

lol

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