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One thing that bugs me is there is the obvious sound difference with reason which is slightly annoying from the start. The new mixing console looks great but it would be even better if the sounds wasn't so flat to start with. Sometimes I tweak away but dont get the right sound.

The same sample played in another DAW comes out much different

Palm I guess thats the sound quality prob you were refering to?

Looks great, Sounds promising! But i wouldn't go to the extent to call it a DAW since it's a rewire slave app.
Great to see awesome implementing reason4 4 well, hey they still have the rebirth module in there?

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Originally posted by Subtle Good question, would be a joke if it didnt though.

Yeah I know guys it doesnt have midi out infact which suprised me!

The admin said that it works the same as reason, you record midi data in to play devices etc. Reason has never had midi out capabilties, well not to my knowledge.

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Originally posted by cryophonik I don't plan on buying it, but I have to say that, in contrast to Storyteller, I actually like the look of its mixer.

I do like it but I'm saying the marketing isn't right .

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Originally posted by Storyteller * They market it as "the perfect simple tool designed for singers/songwriters instead of audio engineers". Yet the mixing desk shows thousands of knobs which get singers in a state of hypnosis before they can get anything done. It just doesn't line up. Why not introduce all those knobs in an effect and keep the channels simple with an on/off button.

You really can't deny that with that amount of knobs it is not built for an engineer. Unlike they are claiming in their new video.

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Originally posted by mzvirbulis Looks great, Sounds promising! But i wouldn't go to the extent to call it a DAW since it's a rewire slave app. Great to see awesome implementing reason4 4 well, hey they still have the rebirth module in there?

So does that mean that Live, Reason, FL Studio, and Reaper aren't DAW's either?

yes.

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Originally posted by cryophonik Hmmm...I wonder where they got the idea for the interface? Doesn't matter - still looks good to me.

Well, they ARE marketing it as an SSL emu.

Notice also the bus compressor.

Hurray, another overpriced DAW-alike targeting the low end of the market and pretending that its lack of features is to make it "easier and more innovative". I'm sure all the singer songwriters will love it

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Originally posted by hasbone Well, they ARE marketing it as a SSL emu.

Ah - I hadn't noticed that part.

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Originally posted by kitphillips Hurray, another overpriced DAW-alike targeting the low end of the market and pretending that its lack of features is to make it "easier and more innovative". I'm sure all the singer songwriters will love it

So, they should have called it ReDundant?

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Originally posted by cryophonik Ah - I hadn't noticed that part. So, they should have called it ReDundant?

Or ReTarded. Or ReInventing the wheel.

I just don't know when people are going to realise that production is complicated. No tool is going to get you good results, especially ones which market themselves as "simple".

And Palm, get off the drugs, VSTs are outdated? What a clown

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Originally posted by kitphillips And Palm, get off the drugs, VSTs are outdated? What a clown

lol. ur right to have an opinion and i am too. i say VST is bullshit crap stuff lol.

I also think its a big miss for not including vst support although it does look like a solid product and will appeal to a lot of people im sure.

i doesn't look like anything speacial but at least i can add some guitar to my reason tracks with ease.

what the really need to do is add some better mastering tools, the mclass eq isn't the best. also they need to get reason to be able to use more processor power.

the mixer is based on ssl console. which is good but why buy this and have reason in it when you can have cubase / logic etc in rewire?

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Originally posted by No Left Turn So does that mean that Live, Reason, FL Studio, and Reaper aren't DAW's either?

Hahah yer my bad :\ but reason i wouldnt call a DAW, It's more just a sequencer. Also the thing about Record also is that it wont have audio input into the Mixer/Racks via rewire (same with reason). So it would be great if it did act as a host DAW which has an audio input stream rather than just output rewire.

If yall want my 2 cents on Record hear it is!
I think its cool and all but i will still be useing Reaper as my Main Daw! But i may use Record for mixing Down! just my 2 c!

"gives you the big studio sound"

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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles Including VSTs makes absolutely no sense if Reason is going to continue having the "synth rack + wires" setup at its core. That would not work with VST. Of course, they could always just throw that idea out and remake the program into something more like Ableton / Cubase / Logic, I guess. I think that would be a shame.

It's possible. They could for example program a wrapper for hosting VST's within reason and keep the setup of reason.

After looking the video, here is my take on it. It's pretty cool, but it is no product that fills a gap in the market and it doesn't improve what's out there. I personally never liked the Fx in reason so for mixing audio in Record is a no for me.

Imo, it looks more like what reason 5.0 should be if Record was integrated in reason. Reason needs audio support. There is no excuse for it because Hardware workstations can do this which Reason competes again. To release a seperate product for this is a bit strange for being a "workstation" that Reason is supposed to be.

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Originally posted by Timothy It's possible. They could for example program a wrapper for hosting VST's within reason and keep the setup of reason.

Yeah, theres no reason why they couldn't get that working reasonably well. And theres no real reason that they need to have those pretty animated cables anyway. If you want a DAW buy cubase/ableton/logic. If you want a pretty animated game then buy reason IMO.

You guys seem to forget how common Reason is in education. If you do an audio engineering course at a university, it is the first thing that gets thrown at you, because the university doesn't want to mess around with plugins. Having a completely encapsulated environment to work in has many benefits. This is the Propellerhead niche.

Plus it's modular nature is very Intuitive than other DAW software i think as signal flow is more present without going through many different gui screens etc.

But i admit cant wait to test it.

I find it all but intuitive. It takes me shitloads of time to get my rack properly sorted before I could get anything started. I think it's interface is clumsy and messy. It doesn't work for me. It does provide some insight on how things would have been (working) if you had real hardware though. On other DAW's you can see what's going on in an eyedrop, I need to hunt cables down in Reason if I want to know what's happening.

Im at music university doing production etc. Yes the first thing that they show you is indeed reason for like 10 minutes. We did it lesson 1 and maybe lesson two. After that it is quickly dismissed as a tool for doing a couple of little things, redrum for example for loops. It is taught more heavily to the btec students which is several levels below a degree in uk. There has to be a reason for this no pun intended. Where do we draw the line? as to what a great little music making package is. Surely and i do mean this cubase/logic + (insert popular big vst/au nexus?) + (insert popular sample pack vengence?) is better.

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Originally posted by Sonic_c When i finish my music course I will be �13,989 in debt.....How much have you invested in your music?

WTF? Claiming bragging rights?
The answer is more, but no debt!

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