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10 years? ffs...



slow.

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Originally posted by Rasidel Slika having flashbacks to when people wondered what on earth you would save on a 4.5GB dvd...

I still can't fill a 750mb CD with all my backups.

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... Melbourne researchers predict... could potentially hold... could hold...

So basically, the entire thing is a prediction. They really needed to do a research study for that?

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Originally posted by idoru So basically, the entire thing is a prediction. They really needed to do a research study for that?

well we all know we'll eventually have 1000petabyte flash drives by the time we die.

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Originally posted by Rasidel Slika having flashbacks to when people wondered what on earth you would save on a 4.5GB dvd...

Yeah I know about that. The standard 10 years ago was a 1.44MB diskette, and now it is a 4.7GB DVD. But what motivated people to need more storing space was when they started storing music, storing video and their apps started growing in space as well. What's the next similar revolution that is going to need a 2000x bigger disc in 10 years (from a 4.7gb dvd to a 10tb disc)? 10000p video? Games that use 50000x50000px textures? I'm not seeing it, at least not in this time period.

Now a 10TB internal hard drive, then yes, absolutely. I can see that becoming usual sooner than 2019. Just not a portable, lightweight, recordable disk.

If I'm wrong email me in 2019.

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Originally posted by cmay119 - Bill Gates

He never said that

its just gonna be higher quality everything - movies, music, photos, etc.

Understand, i am an intense photo and music user. So even at today's levels, i feel limited by storage capacities. If technology was faster and more abundant, I would be shooting at RAW all the time - a filesize about 12-13MB on my cam, per pic (which by today's standards is the smaller spectrum of RAW files). I have taken about 150k pics over the last 3 years, at clubs and events. Do the math thats about 2TB's, of just RAW files. After that, you have to process the files and get em through - its just too slow to do effectively with current technology. And then I'll have separate files for the processed images, I'll need multiple backups, etc. So I'm very much looking forward to enhancements in performance which will make doing work like this a breeze.

Also for music production - you know how much space can be required for that - especially if you are using a lot of WAV files from hardware (which I do).

If space was not an issue, I'd be ripping all of my CD's at FLAC or even WAV. Of course my whole library is kinda like, already "built" at MP3... kinda sure I wouldn't wanna rip that again lol.

oh and, I'll love having insane quality movies too

14 years ago, Chandler got a new computer:

"All right, check out this bad boy. Twelve megabytes of RAM, 500 megabyte hard drive. Built-in spreadsheet capabilities and a modem that transmits at over 28,000 BPS."

ooh i want 2 play..

20 yrs ago, Rasidel got a new computer. and it was BLEEDING edge, tho the term did not exist at the time.

AST 286/10
256K Paradise VGA supporting up to 640x400x256
1MB RAM (640K + 384K via EMM)
40MB HD (partitioned 30 / 10)
Zenith ZCM-1490 14" VGA flat-screen CRT monitor
Practical Peripherals 2400 baud modem
Logitech 3 button mouse
HP Deskjet with Helv and Arial font cartridges

No Windows installed. pure DOS baby!

Software:
the primary reason I (read: my dad) got me this computer was to play King's Quest 4. Also: Thexder, Battlechess, Bard's Tale III, Vette, Flight Sim 3.0, to name a few.. DeluxePaint II, Harvard Graphics, WP5.1, Wordstar (see I was productive too), and PCTools, the best file mgmt software ever.

lulz at people who think burned media is the way to go. That shit does not last. It deteriorates pretty quickly.

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Originally posted by gehzumteufel lulz at people who think burned media is the way to go. That shit does not last. It deteriorates pretty quickly.

define quickly.

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Originally posted by Rasidel Slika define quickly.

2-3 years the adhesive is already starting to break down and slowly release the thin layer of metal that holds the data. According to data guys a few years ago (I read some article, but can't remember the source unfortunately) were saying that unless a disc is kept in optimum conditions (very few ever will be) it will last reliably about 10 years. After that, burned media becomes error prone.

hahaha.. good one. i have cd's from 1996 that still work.

yes, I store my discs properly. kinda obvious.

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Originally posted by Rasidel Slika hahaha.. good one. i have cd's from 1996 that still work. yes, I store my discs properly. kinda obvious.

Burned or pressed?

burned

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Originally posted by Rasidel Slika burned

Cool, but notice I said ABOUT. As in, approximation.

alright i need to mention something, i'm very anal about storage. lol i would guess for "casual" users the lifespan is much shorter.

I have the first CD I ever burned, using a shitty Sony 2X caddy burner in 1996, still working and completely scratch free.

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Originally posted by Rasidel Slika alright i need to mention something, i'm very anal about storage. lol i would guess for "casual" users the lifespan is much shorter. I have the first CD I ever burned, using a shitty Sony 2X caddy burner in 1996, still working and completely scratch free.

That doesn't make the conditions optimal. Optimal would be temperature and humidity controlled room, with no sunlight entering the room. Hence the "very few" comment.

And lest you remember, scratches on the bottom mean NOTHING. Those can easily be wiped away and the disc read perfectly.

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Originally posted by gehzumteufel And lest you remember, scratches on the bottom mean NOTHING. Those can easily be wiped away and the disc read perfectly.

I have my share of scratched discs (from user error) - these are scratches that cannot be "wiped" away and affect read performance.

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Originally posted by Rasidel Slika I have my share of scratched discs (from user error) - these are scratches that cannot be "wiped" away and affect read performance.

You can "wipe" them away. It is called a machine, some abraisive with some lube, a polisher, and some plastic polish.

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Originally posted by gehzumteufel You can "wipe" them away. It is called a machine, some abraisive with some lube, a polisher, and some plastic polish.

ok - you're talking about something we don't have in our homes.

I guess I am coming from a "real world" perspective, while yours is from a "collegiate" one.

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Originally posted by Rasidel Slika ok - you're talking about something we don't have in our homes. I guess I am coming from a "real world" perspective, while yours is from a "collegiate" one.

No, mine is from anywhere. Hollywood Video does this shit.

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Originally posted by gehzumteufel No, mine is from anywhere. Hollywood Video does this shit.

Hollywood Video has a machine that removes scratches from discs? NO WAY. heh

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Originally posted by Rasidel Slika Hollywood Video has a machine that removes scratches from discs? NO WAY. heh

Yep. Been there many times. Done it myself.

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