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I'm bored and feel like starting a feeble internet tift. I actually am fairly moderate in my views, the forums are just lacking this weekend in good stuff since everyone is away at DEMF

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That was quite a hysterical liberal response, Banora.

Thanks, it what I am striving for.

lol... been there too

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Originally posted by Banora i am thoroughly capable of making rational distinctions, are you Oh, of course not! I'm a dirty, hippie liberal douchebag who only sees things in black-and-white. I can't understand that just because you lean more towards one side of the political spectrum you can't have some traits from the other. Nope, sure can't. Because everyone knows if you're one you can't even have a tiny spec of the other.

dude, take a pill.

you don't want to appear contradictory do you?

ITT: Conservatives trying to find a viable excuse to continue waterboarding muslims.

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Originally posted by ziptnf ITT: Conservatives trying to find a viable excuse to continue waterboarding muslims.

now theres your douchebag. right on time

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Originally posted by Q5echo now theres your douchebag. right on time

Lay it out on the table this time. Why do you keep defending a widely regarded form of torture?

goddamn...America needs a 3rd party badly.

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Originally posted by ziptnf Lay it out on the table this time. Why do you keep defending a widely regarded form of torture?

i have, here and in the PDD, if you've read what i've posted instead of blaming "whitey" at the drop of a hat.

youre not a douchebag but some of the crap yoou post in the effort to be "edgy" politically qualifies as slight douchebaggery

EDIT> i'd don't want to debate this here in the COR so if you have an argument present it in the PDD. you know where you can find me.

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Originally posted by Q5echo dude, take a pill. you don't want to appear contradictory do you?

Read my first post on this page.

I saw your post before the edit, bitch. Bitch.

Bitch.

What a bitch that Banora.

You know?

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Originally posted by Q5echo youre not a douchebag but some of the crap yoou post in the effort to be "edgy" politically qualifies as slight douchebaggery

I appreciate the fact that you don't think I'm a douchebag, I really try not to be, but I guess I'm a vagina when it comes to homeland security. I just don't think it's necessary to practically drown someone to get some names, even if they're not exactly innocent. Dick Cheney and the few "radical" conservatives left in the media try to blame the new administration for making the country less safe because they don't want to torture people. I just think it's a silly mudslinging orgy on both sides, but in my opinion, the conservatives are wrong this time. I personally think Obama was wrong on trying to shut down Guantanamo without any plan of what to do with the current residents, but I understand his reasoning. When over half the country agrees that "The United States does not torture", I have to be a mindless sheep and follow them, because it's my personal belief.

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Originally posted by Renzo What a bitch that Banora.

I'm PMSing...but then I found some chocolate, so I didn't feel so bitchy, hence the edit.

im eating m&ms as we speak.
or type & read.















after eating 8 oreos.

I like milk chocolate M&Ms. The peanut ones are good, too, but they give you peanut breath. And what am I, a fucking monkey?

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Originally posted by Renzo I like milk chocolate M&Ms.

the ones im eating =)
meh, i like the almond ones more than peanut imo.

Shut up and gimme some

I haven't tried the almond ones, actually. But almonds are great.

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Originally posted by Renzo Shut up and gimme some I haven't tried the almond ones, actually. But almonds are great.

HMPPHH!!! THEY'RE MINE. fffft. fffffft.

actually, i just have the milk choco ones right now. but fuck, almonds r so good- i like the honey bunches of oats with almonds


..ugh, orgasm. ill give you some of those!!

I hate the way milk chocolate tastes... I only eat dark chocolate.

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Originally posted by ziptnf I appreciate the fact that you don't think I'm a douchebag, I really try not to be, but I guess I'm a vagina when it comes to homeland security. I just don't think it's necessary to practically drown someone to get some names, even if they're not exactly innocent. Dick Cheney and the few "radical" conservatives left in the media try to blame the new administration for making the country less safe because they don't want to torture people. I just think it's a silly mudslinging orgy on both sides, but in my opinion, the conservatives are wrong this time. I personally think Obama was wrong on trying to shut down Guantanamo without any plan of what to do with the current residents, but I understand his reasoning. When over half the country agrees that "The United States does not torture", I have to be a mindless sheep and follow them, because it's my personal belief.

i can totally dig your beliefs. they're sound and grounded in good intentions. and in a perfect world they're completely plausible.

however, i think it doesn't do Obama any credit to flatly believe that when push came to shove he would forego all the enhanced interrogation techniques that had been previously deemed legal just to please half of the nation to let a handfull of American's face a violent death. IOW he would waterboard. i have no doubt in my mind if he were unfortunately given the option.

little of what Obama has said during his presidency does not come with an expiration date, and a mere Executive Order prohibiting such means very little when his own party that has complete control of government has so far refused designing Federal statute prohibiting such.

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Originally posted by Q5echo i can totally dig your beliefs. they're sound and grounded in good intentions. and in a perfect world they're completely plausible. however, i think it doesn't do Obama any credit to flatly believe that when push came to shove he would forego all the enhanced interrogation techniques that had been previously deemed legal just to please half of the nation to let a handfull of American's face a violent death. IOW he would waterboard. i have no doubt in my mind if he were unfortunately given the option. little of what Obama has said during his presidency does not come with an expiration date, and a mere Executive Order prohibiting such means very little when his own party that has complete control of government has so far refused designing Federal statute prohibiting such.

I don't understand your hypothetical situation. When would it ever be appropriate to issue an order to waterboard anyone? I suppose if it's a matter of life or death for most of the country, then perhaps this "enhanced interrogation technique" (i love that buzzword btw, it makes it seem so harmless...) could be necessary if the United States were under such a critical situation, whatever it may be.

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Originally posted by ziptnf When would it ever be appropriate to issue an order to waterboard anyone?

when all other techniques have failed.

this is no different from the scenario dealt with during the previous administration and the OLC documents Obama declassified reflect that and it's exactly why (among other partisaned political reasons) Congress hasn't as of yet backed up Obama's Executive Order.

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Originally posted by Q5echo when all other techniques have failed. this is no different from the scenario dealt with during the previous administration and the OLC documents Obama declassified reflect that and it's exactly why (among other partisaned political reasons) Congress hasn't as of yet backed up Obama's Executive Order.

Is your name really quintin?

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