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| Originally posted by Shakka Media or not, that Michael Moore fella was a helluva guy. I fail to see how comments made by someone like Jon Voigt are any more or less spiteful or meaningful that that fat bucket of lard, whatever extreme they come from. Unless you want to start getting into moral equivalence debates... I'm more concerned that PETA is going to go after Obama given the brutal nature with which he killed that innocent fly in his interview with John Harwood today. I mean did you see the ferocity and velocity with which Obama ruthlessly ended that poor insect's life? Harsh man...harsh. |
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| Originally posted by Shakka Media or not, that Michael Moore fella was a helluva guy. I fail to see how comments made by someone like Jon Voigt are any more or less spiteful or meaningful that that fat bucket of lard, whatever extreme they come from. Unless you want to start getting into moral equivalence debates... |
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| Originally posted by Clovis As stupid as I think Michael Moore is, has he ever said anything this fucking ridiculous about the president? |
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Should such an ignorant people lead the world? How did it come to this in the first place? 82 percent of us don't even have a passport! Just a handful can speak a language other than English. |
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White people scare the crap out of me. � I have never been attacked by a black person, never been evicted by a black person, never had my security deposit ripped off by a black landlord, never had a black landlord � never been pulled over by a black cop, never been sold a lemon by a black car salesman, never seen a black car salesman, never had a black person deny me a bank loan, never had a black person bury my movie, and I've never heard a black person say, 'We're going to eliminate ten thousand jobs here - have a nice day!' |
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We live in the time where we have fictitious election results that elects a fictitious president. We live in a time where we have a man sending us to war for fictitious reasons. |
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These bastards who run our country are a bunch of conniving, thieving, smug pricks who need to be brought down and removed and replaced with a whole new system that we control. |
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�The Iraqis who have risen up against the occupation are not `insurgents` or `terrorists` or `The Enemy.` They are the revolution, the Minutemen, and their numbers will grow - and they will win.� |
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�I would like to apologize for referring to George W. Bush as a deserter. What I meant to say is that George W. Bush is a deserter, an election thief, a drunk driver, a WMD liar, and a functional illiterate. And he poops his pants� |
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I think flying planes into a building was a faith-based initiative. I think religion is a neurological disorder. |
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The Clinton White House today said they would start to give national security and intelligence briefings to George Bush. I don't know how well this is working out. Today after the first one Bush said, 'I've got one question: What color is the red phone?' |
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�The Dalai Lama visited the White House and told the President that he could teach him to find a higher state of consciousness. Then after talking to Bush for a few minutes, he said, "You know what? Let's just grab lunch."� |
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| �Jim Bakker spells his name with two k's because three would be too obvious.� |
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�George Bush says, 'Gore's book needs a lot of explaining.' Of course, Bush says that about every book.� |
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| Originally posted by HardTranceProd Well the point of the post wasn't so much the spitefulness to which everyone is entitled. It rather had to do with the irony of how leftist Hollywood and politics intersect. |
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| Originally posted by Shakka But oh no, ZOMG, Jon Voigt called the Messiah a false prophet! What are we to do about this outrageous use of free speech! Somebody call the Thought Police!!! |
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| I honestly can't believe this is getting so much attention. |
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| Originally posted by Clovis Absolutely hysterical coming from someone who quotes Rush Limbaugh in their signature. What deep seeded hatred exactly is the democratic party pushing right now? |
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| Originally posted by The17sss if you listen to Olbermann, Chris Matthews, Krugman's piece I mentioned that you must not have read, Michael Moore, all the bitter spiteful comedians-turned-political-experts... etc. I'm not just talking about elected officials. The shit that gets thrown at the GOP, Bush, and the republican party in general is a hell of a lot worse. |
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| A political appointee to the Staten Island Community Education Council forwarded a racist e-mail to dozens of people, angering officials with the local NAACP. Salvatore Ballarino admitted sending an e-mail featuring photos from the last presidential debate with voice balloons added to suggest a conversation laden with racist jokes. "It was a political cartoon," Ballarino said. "It was a joke, and I treated it as such." In the e-mail, Sen. John McCain is shown telling then-candidate Barack Obama that he has black people in his family tree, adding, "If I recall, they're still hanging there." In another exchange, McCain asks Obama the difference between a black man and a picnic table, before offering that "a picnic table can support a family." |
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| Racist e-mails reveal ugly side of Republicanism Tom Baldwin and Matt Spencein Washington An e-mail sent by a Republican aide, entitled Historical Keepsake Photo, features portraits of the first 43 American presidents in a variety of dignified and statesmanlike poses. The succession of white faces, however, comes to an abrupt halt in the final and 44th panel which displays just a pair of cartoon eyeballs set against an entirely dark background. Little more than six months since the US elected its first black president and Barack Obama declared �change has come to America�, hopes that the country is finally overcoming a racist past are being tempered by evidence that parts of it � sections of the Republican Party in particular � remain aghast at the notion of a black First Family. While most of the country shifted towards Democrats in November, a striking swath, stretching from rural western Pennsylvania, extending southwest through Appalachia and encompassing most of Arkansas, Oklahoma and Louisiana, swung against Mr Obama. Sherri Goforth, who works as a legislative assistant for the Republican leadership in the Tennessee state senate, was given a written reprimand this week but allowed to keep her job after being identified as having sent out the e-mail with the presidential portraits. Asked if she understood that the depiction of Mr Obama was offensive, Ms Goforth was quoted as saying she regretted sending it to the wrong e-mail list. �I inadvertently hit the wrong button,� she said. �I�m very sick about it and it�s one of those things I can�t change or take back.� Related Links * Republicans' dilemma over Supreme Court judge * Republicans elect first ever black leader * Republicans shamed by 'Barack the Magic Negro' Nor was this the only such instance in recent weeks. The internet is providing glimpses of an unreconstructed underbelly of America, which, in turn, is being seized upon and presented in vivid detail by liberal websites such as Wonkette or the Daily Kos. Earlier this month Diann Jones, a vice-chairman of the Collin County Republican Party in Texas, apologised for an e-mail that denounced plans for a tax on guns as �another terrific idea from the black house and its minions�. In February, Dean Grose, the mayor of Los Alamitos in California, sent an e-mail to a black businesswoman, depicting the White House lawn planted with watermelons. Mr Grose said he had not meant to cause offence and that he was unaware of the stereotype that the African-American diet consisted of watermelon or fried chicken. Carol Carter, a member of Florida�s state Republican committee, mused in an e-mail to colleagues in January on black people�s ability to travel to Mr Obama�s inauguration when so many had drowned in Hurricane Katrina. �I�m confused,� she said. �How can 2,000,000 blacks get into Washington, DC in one day in sub zero temps when 200,000 couldn�t get out of New Orleans in 85 degree temps with four days notice?� She was forced to resign but not before begging readers of the e-mail to show they had a �sense of humour�. The local Republican executive declared that Ms Carter �doesn�t have a racist bone in her body�. The Republican Party earlier this year elected Michael Steele as its first black National Committee chairman . He has acknowledged, however, that the party�s difficulties with ethnic minority votes will not be solved easily because too many officials �don�t give a damn�. To them, he said, �outreach means let�s throw a cocktail party, find some black folks and Hispanics and women, wrap our arms around them � �See, look at us�. And then we go back to the same old, same old.� One of his opponents during the contest was Chip Saltsman, the former Tennessee Republican chairman who sent friends a Christmas gift of songs by the satirist Paul Shanklin, including the track: �Barack the Magic Negro�. |
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| Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov Actually, I do. Prior to 2003, Bush was as widely heralded by the media as Obama. Coverage typically shadows public opinion - when a president is popular, they're more likely to receive positive coverage. I don't see anything implicitly nefarious in that, especially since it does cut both ways. Are you inferring that right after 9/11 you saw legions of reporters filing negative stories about Bush? If anything, we saw the talking heads repeat the adage that it was all Clinton's fault for not taking bin Laden seriously - it wasn't until the debacle of the lead-up to Iraq that people started to seriously question Bush's leadership skills. |
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| As he marks his 100th day in office, President Barack Obama has enjoyed substantially more positive media coverage than either Bill Clinton or George Bush during their first months in the White House, according to a new study of press coverage. Overall, roughly four out of ten stories, editorials and op ed columns about Obama have been clearly positive in tone, compared with 22% for Bush and 27% for Clinton in the same mix of seven national media outlets during the same first two months in office, according to a study by the Pew Research Center�s Project for Excellence in Journalism. The study found positive stories about Obama have outweighed negative by two-to-one (42% vs. 20%) while 38% of stories have been neutral or mixed. |
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| Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov Mike Green (R-SC) on Twitter: "JUST HEARD OBAMA IS GOING TO IMPOSE A 40% TAX ON ASPIRIN BECAUSE IT'S WHITE AND IT WORKS." |
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| Originally posted by The17sss Again- unless you were in a coma from 2003-2008, |
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| A president has never been treated so horribly. |
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| from the day he was elected the hate began, being accused of stealing the election. |
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| There's a major difference between "questioning one's leadership skills" and writing books and making movies about assassinating a sitting president. |
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| As he marks his 100th day in office, President Barack Obama has enjoyed substantially more positive media coverage than either Bill Clinton or George Bush during their first months in the White House, according to a new study of press coverage. Overall, roughly four out of ten stories, editorials and op ed columns about Obama have been clearly positive in tone, compared with 22% for Bush and 27% for Clinton in the same mix of seven national media outlets during the same first two months in office, according to a study by the Pew Research Center�s Project for Excellence in Journalism. |
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| Whether you trust Drudge or not, it's happening and ABC news specifically said they reject the idea of having opposing viewpoints of the president's policies mentioned... those bipartisan viewpoints that Obama said he'd call for. Pure bias. |
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| Imagine a Republican Congress introducing a bill to repeal Social Security and Fox News running a special on it live from inside RNC headquarters. |
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| Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov Mike Green (R-SC) on Twitter: "JUST HEARD OBAMA IS GOING TO IMPOSE A 40% TAX ON ASPIRIN BECAUSE IT'S WHITE AND IT WORKS." You really want to get into this pissing match? |
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| RUSH: Well, let me tell you about the roots of this. There was a columnist in the Los Angeles Times named David Ehrenstein, and on Monday, he wrote a piece about Barack is the "magic negro." He claimed that there is, in the black culture, this term "magic negro." His point in this column was that Barack Obama is not authentic. He hasn't been down for the struggle. Plus he's not been around long enough for people to know what he actually stands for substance-wise, and so white people who are supporting Barack are simply doing so to assuage their white guilt over the transgressions in the past in this country, such as slavery and so forth. So his theory is that Barack coming along, he's black and that's all that matters. Nobody cares what he stands for. Nobody knows what he stands for. It was a column, essentially, accusing white people supporting Obama of being racist because they don't care what he stands for and don't care what he's going to do. The fact that he's black is enough for them, to make them not feel guilty as long as they say they support him, and that was the definition of "magic negro." Now, on this program, we made it a big point to point out that it was -- and this columnist is black, by the way, David Ehrenstein is black, and he used the term, which is why it says so in the lyric line of the song. So we're just highlighting what the left says. I believe they're the true racists. I believe they're the ones that look at people and notice whatever is different about them from white liberals. Either they're black or they're gay or they're Hispanic or whatever. They immediately group people, and most of them happen to be victims. Yet we conservatives are the ones, Uriah, who get tarred and feathered with these allegations. CALLER: Yes, sir. RUSH: So this song is to illustrate that point. CALLER: Okay. That's the first time I've actually ever heard the term "magic negro." RUSH: Well, me, too. I never heard of it, but this guy says it's out there. It's part of black folklore. CALLER: Okay. Yeah, so that was my question there. You know, I feel like as a country that we should definitely be propelling forward, and this generation, and bringing light to the rest of this world. RUSH: Well, I can tell you think the term negro is inappropriate, that it's old hat and shouldn't be used, that it's divisive and this sort of thing, and you may have a point, but remember what we do on this program. We illustrate absurdity by being absurd, and the other element of this is that Sharpton has been quoted in the New York Post as being jealous that Obama is getting all this support as a black presidential candidate. Remember, Joe Biden said, "Hey, we got the first clean, articulate, intelligent black guy running for president." How do you think this makes Sharpton feel? He's run for president twice. How do you think it's going to make the Reverend Jackson feel? So the story was that there's a little jealousy out there. So, these two things just fit together. It was like a harmonic convergence here on this, Uriah. Now that you know the context and the details, let's listen together to Al Sharpton and "Barack the Magic Negro." |
Right on cue!
Of course you go to Rush and not the actual op-ed that ran, in which it's clear the connotation of the phrase was not racist. The word "cracker" isn't racist in all its contexts either.
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| Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov Ermmm... you specifically said "at the same time in Bush's presidency. Why do you keep moving the goalposts? |
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| If you say so. I'm sure Andrew Johnson or Herbert Hoover or Jimmy Carter would would disagree with you. |
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| What? |
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| From the Pew reporting data: |
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| So you ARE in favor of the Fairness Doctrine! |
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| Um, that actually happens, and not just on Fox. Usually not from the RNC though - usually from the Republican anteroom in the Capitol. |
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| Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov Right on cue! Of course you go to Rush and not the actual op-ed that ran, in which it's clear the connotation of the phrase was not racist. The word "cracker" isn't racist in all its contexts either. |
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| Originally posted by The17sss |
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| Originally posted by The17sss I can't say much about Andrew Johnson or Herbert Hoover, but Jimmy Carter, if you think he got harsh media coverage, maybe it's because unter his tutelige we had 12% unemployment, a 70% tax rate, and gas lines that lasted for hours... to name a few. |
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| I'm talking about how you phrased it that while Bush was president, his leadership was called into question... which is a very generous way of sugarcoating the nasty, non stop hate that was spewed at him (and still is). |
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| I was saying that while he was president, there were books written about assassinating him, as well as a movie with the same kind of theme. |
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| I guess you didn't read this: "As he marks his 100th day in office, President Barack Obama has enjoyed substantially more positive media coverage than either Bill Clinton or George Bush during their first months in the White House, according to a new study of press coverage. Overall, roughly four out of ten stories, editorials and op ed columns about Obama have been clearly positive in tone, compared with 22% for Bush and 27% for Clinton in the same mix of seven national media outlets during the same first two months in office, according to a study by the Pew Research Center�s Project for Excellence in Journalism." |
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| ARRRGHH!!! No! I'm in favor of a news network stopping to pretend that they are not bias and working to aid in the president accomplishing his goals. |
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| Really? and they come out and say they reject the idea of alternative arguments and viewpoints like ABC did? |
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| Originally posted by The17sss Right on cue..... what? I provided the source of the parody, explaining the full context? If you choose NOT to read the actual words and context from the person being accused of something, I guess that makes you.... unbiased? Edit: What are you missing? The op-ed was written by a black guy. Rush turned it's absurdity into a parody, and explains it... if you actually read it, you'll understand it's not racist. God what's with you? |
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| Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov Right on cue that when you start harping about biases in the media, you turn to quotes from Rush Limbaugh. I've read the op-ed. I don't need Rush to explain it to me (though I read that inanity anyway). |
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| Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov Link? |
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| You're arguing that a major media network shouldn't provide a direct feed to a Presidential address inside the White House without establishing a fair and equal time for Bobby Jindal to respond? How is that not the Fairness Doctrine? |
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| Today, the Republican National Committee requested an opportunity to add our Party's views to those of the President's to ensure that all sides of the health care reform debate are presented. Our request was rejected. I believe that the President should have the ability to speak directly to the America people. However, I find it outrageous that ABC would prohibit our Party's opposing thoughts and ideas from this national debate, which affects millions of ABC viewers. In the absence of opposition, I am concerned this event will become a glorified infomercial to promote the Democrat agenda. If that is the case, this primetime infomercial should be paid for out of the DNC coffers. President Obama does not hold a monopoly on health care reform ideas or on free airtime. The President has stated time and time again that he wants a bipartisan debate. Therefore, the Republican Party should be included in this primetime event, or the DNC should pay for your airtime. |
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| Originally posted by The17sss http://www.amazon.com/Checkpoint-No...r/dp/1400044006 |
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| Did you see the difference in interviews between what Palin got vs. Obama and Biden during the runup to the election by the way? |
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Couric: If this doesn't pass, do you think there's a risk of another Great Depression? Palin: Unfortunately, that is the road that America may find itself on. Not necessarily this, as it's been proposed, has to pass or we're going to find ourselves in another Great Depression. But, there has got to be action - bipartisan effort - Congress not pointing fingers at one another but finding the solution to this, taking action, and being serious about the reforms on Wall Street that are needed. Couric: Would you support a moratorium on foreclosures to help average Americans keep their homes? Palin: That's something that John McCain and I have both been discussing - whether that ... is part of the solution or not. You know, it's going to be a multi-faceted solution that has to be found here. Couric: So you haven't decided whether you'll support it or not? Palin: I have not. Couric: What are the pros and cons of it do you think? Palin: Oh, well, some decisions that have been made poorly should not be rewarded, of course. Couric: By consumers, you're saying? Palin: Consumers - and those who were predator lenders also. That's, you know, that has to be considered also. But again, it's got to be a comprehensive, long-term solution found ... for this problem that America is facing today. As I say, we are getting into crisis mode here. Couric: You've said, quote, "John McCain will reform the way Wall Street does business." Other than supporting stricter regulations of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac two years ago, can you give us any more example of his leading the charge for more oversight? Palin: I think that the example that you just cited, with his warnings two years ago about Fannie and Freddie - that, that's paramount. That's more than a heck of a lot of other senators and representatives did for us. Couric: But he's been in Congress for 26 years. He's been chairman of the powerful Commerce Committee. And he has almost always sided with less regulation, not more. Palin: He's also known as the maverick though, taking shots from his own party, and certainly taking shots from the other party. Trying to get people to understand what he's been talking about - the need to reform government. Couric: But can you give me any other concrete examples? Because I know you've said Barack Obama is a lot of talk and no action. Can you give me any other examples in his 26 years of John McCain truly taking a stand on this? Palin: I can give you examples of things that John McCain has done, that has shown his foresight, his pragmatism, and his leadership abilities. And that is what America needs today. Couric: I'm just going to ask you one more time - not to belabor the point. Specific examples in his 26 years of pushing for more regulation. Palin: I'll try to find you some and I'll bring them to you. |
jesus. id almost forgotten about her. almost. and i still can't get over the fact that our good friend Q5 voted for a ticket with her on it.
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| Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN jesus. id almost forgotten about her. almost. and i still can't get over the fact that our good friend Q5 voted for a ticket with her on it. |
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| Originally posted by The17sss I think the self reliance of conservatism is rooted in the idea of individual liberty... and the belief that freedom includes a person's freedom to make good and bad choices for themselves, not have Big Brother holding their hand and deciding what's best for them. I have plenty of faith in people- when they are left alone by government and allowed to succeed or fail on their own merit. You gotta agree that a growing population of this country are not properly educated and informed (look at the return on our public school investment)... and when people are not adequately informed/educated then yes, it constrains the mind from understanding that they are the masters of their own destiny, not the State. It gets easier and easier to take entitlements and government handouts than work hard for success. And with the ever expanding nanny state perpetuated by liberal policies and a supportive agenda driven media, the American entrepreneurial spirit is diminshed little by little each day. |
No, he's a Libertarian but doesn't realize it. Let go if the GOP 17ss...Just let go. Come join us. 
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| Originally posted by The17sss I think the self reliance of conservatism is rooted in the idea of individual liberty... and the belief that freedom includes a person's freedom to make good and bad choices for themselves, not have Big Brother holding their hand and deciding what's best for them. I have plenty of faith in people- when they are left alone by government and allowed to succeed or fail on their own merit. You gotta agree that a growing population of this country are not properly educated and informed (look at the return on our public school investment)... and when people are not adequately informed/educated then yes, it constrains the mind from understanding that they are the masters of their own destiny, not the State. It gets easier and easier to take entitlements and government handouts than work hard for success. And with the ever expanding nanny state perpetuated by liberal policies and a supportive agenda driven media, the American entrepreneurial spirit is diminshed little by little each day. |
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