Definitely watching this. I think Mir will beat Brock again. He looked great against Big Nog. GSP > Alves and Hendo > Bisping. I think Bisping is a prick and hope he gets his ass kicked by Hendo. I could be wrong in my picks because the guys are all good which makes this a great UFC card.
Posted by noskizza on Jul-08-2009 14:47:
I almost forgot this to, Hendo has bad bjj defense and Bisping has really good and underrated bjj. This could also be a way Hendo goes down.
Posted by PaulCky411 on Jul-08-2009 16:50:
Mir by sub
GSP by sub
Hendo by UD
Fitch by KO
Akiyama by KO
Bonnar by KO
Posted by Zack Roth on Jul-08-2009 17:07:
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Originally posted by noskizza
I almost forgot this to, Hendo has bad bjj defense
Thats not true at all. Getting submitted 3 times in your entire career (by BJJ black belts no less) does not qualify you as having bad BJJ defense.
On the contrary, if you look the the caliber guys he's fought over the years, and the grappling credentials of so many of those fighters, you'll see his BJJ defensive is actually awesome.
Posted by jonnypmo on Jul-08-2009 23:45:
quote:
Originally posted by Jason Jollins
I'm not saying that I want Bisping to win, I just think that Henderson is past his prime and Bisping is in his prime.
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Totally with you on that one. I think Bisping is going to treat this almost the same way as the Leben fight. Get in, score points, circle out.
I'm going with...
** MAIN CARD ** Mir - Deep down I don't think he'll win, but I really hope he does. Though if he loses at least we can get setup for a trilogy. I know Lesnar doesn't really feel like he lost their first fight, I want to see how he adjusts and comes back after getting what he'd consider a "real loss". GSP - I think these two will have a GSP/Hughes situation. Alves will take him down in their second meeting in a year or so. If Alves wins I hope its with a left knee when GSP goes for a take down. Bisping - Reasons above, though I hate him and I'm rooting on Hendo Fitch - Going to be a mauling Akiyama - An Akiyama win makes the top of the division much more interesting
** PRELIMS ** Coleman - Going to be close, but I just have that feeling Coleman's going to out muscle him and get a ground and pound TKO. If this goes the distance I think Bonnar will probably have won it JON BONES JONES - kids on a roll, o'brien won't be the one to stop him Miller - Should be a close one and I like Danzig, but I don't think he'll have enough to save his job Lawlor - Because I HAAAAAAAAAAATE Dolloway Kim - Because I haven't seen enough from TJ Grant Gugerty - Have the feeling he'll out grapple Grice and get the sub
Posted by jonnypmo on Jul-08-2009 23:45:
Is anyone here going to 101 in Philly?
Posted by noskizza on Jul-09-2009 01:50:
quote:
Originally posted by zizack
Thats not true at all. Getting submitted 3 times in your entire career (by BJJ black belts no less) does not qualify you as having bad BJJ defense.
On the contrary, if you look the the caliber guys he's fought over the years, and the grappling credentials of so many of those fighters, you'll see his BJJ defensive is actually awesome.
idk if I'd say its awesome its good, but if anyone gives him trouble its bjj or jujitsu. Bisping is a black belt not only that but he's submitted half the dudes he beat. In my book that spells problems for Hendo. I think Hendo will get the better of the takedowns but in the end he's going down.
Posted by DJGhost on Jul-09-2009 04:32:
Is any1 going to the UFC viewing party @ Radio City Music Hall?
I'm still debating if I should go there or go to the usual NJ bar [Pub 46] I go see the fights.
Posted by noskizza on Jul-09-2009 04:38:
quote:
Originally posted by jonnypmo
Is anyone here going to 101 in Philly?
I'm hitting that up....or at least trying too.
Posted by Zack Roth on Jul-09-2009 04:51:
quote:
Originally posted by noskizza
idk if I'd say its awesome its good, but if anyone gives him trouble its bjj or jujitsu. Bisping is a black belt not only that but he's submitted half the dudes he beat. In my book that spells problems for Hendo. I think Hendo will get the better of the takedowns but in the end he's going down.
where did you see that Bisbing was a BJJ black belt?
Posted by noskizza on Jul-09-2009 04:54:
Not in bjj but just Jujitsu.
Posted by Zack Roth on Jul-09-2009 04:57:
quote:
Originally posted by noskizza
Not in bjj but just Jujitsu.
BJJ = brazilian jiu jitsu.
what other version of jiu jitsu does Bisbing pracice?
Posted by noskizza on Jul-09-2009 05:01:
quote:
Originally posted by zizack
BJJ = brazilian jiu jitsu.
what other version of jiu jitsu does Bisbing pracice?
There's only one form of bjj he does jujitsu from japan not bjj. Sorry for the confusion
Posted by Zack Roth on Jul-09-2009 05:10:
quote:
Originally posted by noskizza
There's only one form of bjj he does jujitsu from japan not bjj. Sorry for the confusion
The practical MMA form of JJ is BJJ...I've never heard of anyone in MMA specifically specializing in the old school Japanese form of the art. Where did you get this info from?
Posted by DJGhost on Jul-09-2009 05:10:
quote:
Originally posted by zizack
BJJ = brazilian jiu jitsu.
what other version of jiu jitsu does Bisbing pracice?
According to Wikipedia, he practice YawaraRyu JiuJitsu.
I have NEVER heard of that style. I practice DaitoRyu Aiki with a friend that is a black belt. I guess we haven't got that far up yet. LoL
Posted by DJGhost on Jul-09-2009 05:20:
quote:
Originally posted by zizack
The practical MMA form of JJ is BJJ...I've never heard of anyone in MMA specifically specializing in the old school Japanese form of the art. Where did you get this info from?
The old style of JiuJitsu its pretty much gone. Only Nimpo [AKA Ninjutsu] still carries the old JuJitsu teachings. If I'm not mistaken, there's only 2 official ninjutsu schools in the world.
I've been practicing Martial arts since I was 6 y/o. All that useless knowledge is finally useful. LoL
Posted by Zack Roth on Jul-09-2009 05:22:
quote:
Originally posted by DJGhost
The old style of JiuJitsu its pretty much gone. Only Nimpo [AKA Ninjutsu] still carries the old JuJitsu teachings. If I'm not mistaken, there's only 2 official ninjutsu schools in the world.
I've been practicing Martial arts since I was 6 y/o. All that useless knowledge is finally useful. LoL
I have actually been practicing BJJ for a few years now myself. Posted by DJGhost on Jul-09-2009 05:29:
quote:
Originally posted by zizack
I have actually been practicing BJJ for a few years now myself.
BJJ is def. not my fort�. Im more of a striker. The only locks I know is from practicing Judo. I should focus more on Katame Waza (grappling) then Ne waza (throws).
I cant wait for UFC 100 I'm usually good at calling the PPV's. But i suck in calling the UFC Fight Nights. haha
Posted by noskizza on Jul-09-2009 05:33:
quote:
Originally posted by zizack
I have actually been practicing BJJ for a few years now myself.
I do bjj & mauy thai here in ct myself. I think jujitsu can stillbe used up about a year an a half ago now to do bjj and mauy thai as well. Do you go to a school in ny?
Posted by Zack Roth on Jul-09-2009 05:38:
quote:
Originally posted by noskizza
I do bjj & mauy thai here in ct myself. I think jujitsu can stillbe used up about a year an a half ago now to do bjj and mauy thai as well. Do you go to a school in ny?
I go to a Royler Gracie affiliated school in NJ.
BTW, no hard feelings over our little disagreement lol. I can argue/debate about MMA all day / night. Its going to be a great fight for sure....even though Hendo is going win. Posted by noskizza on Jul-09-2009 05:40:
I still think jujitsu can be used in the ufc, honestly there's some differences between bjj & jj. But its not like night and day, they still focus on takedowns, shooting, joint locks, chokes, just like bjj, just in bjj some things are done differently. I think imo to say its dated or not pratical is wrong. That's like saying judo isn't adaptable to the ufc. I do think you need more then a little jujitsu to win fights in the ufc. But knowing it won't hurt your chances of a win. But anyway were getting off topic I say war Bisping!!!
Posted by noskizza on Jul-09-2009 05:45:
quote:
Originally posted by zizack
I go to a Royler Gracie affiliated school in NJ.
BTW, no hard feelings over our little disagreement lol. I can argue/debate about MMA all day / night. Its going to be a great fight for sure....even though Hendo is going win.
not at all man and same here btw, I love the sport and talking about it. Its fun having debates over who's better styles that work or don't in the octagon or ring. But yea man I'm the sameway I could talk about fighters and styles night an day. I go to Ultimate mma in new haven ct. The only that sucks about living in CT is that there's no good Sambo school I really wanted to take that up as well. How do you feel about Fedor.
Posted by DJGhost on Jul-09-2009 13:26:
Any art can be used for Mixed Martial Arts. Of course yo have to master it first.
Take Lyoto Machida. Nobody in the world thought Karate would be effective in MMA competition. Since he was able to adapt his Karate knowledge to MMA, he's a HUGE puzzle for all fighters.
I gotta say I go by this movie line/quote by Bruce Lee. Both in Martial Arts & Music:
Teacher: What is the highest technique you hope to achieve?
Lee: To have no technique.
Posted by Bobby Fist Pump on Jul-09-2009 14:09:
quote:
Originally posted by DJGhost
Any art can be used for Mixed Martial Arts. Of course yo have to master it first.
Take Lyoto Machida. Nobody in the world thought Karate would be effective in MMA competition. Since he was able to adapt his Karate knowledge to MMA, he's a HUGE puzzle for all fighters.
I gotta say I go by this movie line/quote by Bruce Lee. Both in Martial Arts & Music:
Teacher: What is the highest technique you hope to achieve?
Lee: To have no technique.
GSP's Base martial arts is also Karate. He is just such a freak he happened to pick up everything pretty easly.
Posted by DJGhost on Jul-09-2009 14:12:
quote:
Originally posted by Bobby Fist Pump
GSP's Base martial arts is also Karate. He is just such a freak he happened to pick up everything pretty easly.
True. GSP is a complete fighter. He really don't rely on 1 style like Machida does tho.
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