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Posted by alexf on Jul-21-2009 17:34:

good idea, i would take part then


Posted by KilldaDJ on Jul-21-2009 17:45:

quote:
Originally posted by kr00t0n
I did this 3.5 years ago


i remember downloading this one, twas a gudden


Posted by ziptnf on Jul-21-2009 18:28:

Sure, I'll do it.


Posted by SYSTEM-J on Jul-22-2009 00:18:

Okay, it looks like there'll be plenty of interest for this one. I'll put together some rules and a format in the next couple of days, and then decide who I should invite to get it started.


Posted by Lews on Jul-22-2009 01:09:

You should also make a list of all the people who you might potentially ask, so they can have an idea if they're going to be asked and can plan a mix accordingly.


Posted by djkopernikus on Jul-22-2009 03:24:

im innit to winnit it.


Posted by ahp2002 on Jul-22-2009 09:01:

Sounds interesting, but I just narrowed down around 65 tracks for an xtra xtra xtra long classics mix.


Posted by Fledz on Jul-22-2009 09:50:

Good idea!


Posted by SYSTEM-J on Jul-22-2009 14:06:

quote:
Originally posted by Lews
You should also make a list of all the people who you might potentially ask, so they can have an idea if they're going to be asked and can plan a mix accordingly.


Well, one of the things I had in mind was that each month's player would be a surprise, so people would check the thread every month with a real sense of anticipation.

Most people who visit here regularly will know there are some TAs whose mixes always attract lots of comments, and these are the members who most people will want to hear from. I do plan to vary who is invited to keep things interesting, but anyone who knows their mixes are popular should start drawing up preliminary lists now, because you're gonna get invited sooner or later.

Still, I think a month to do this kind of set is plenty. If anyone disagrees, they should let me know while I'm still putting the format together.


Posted by physe on Jul-22-2009 14:53:

Maybe another thing to consider would be to have two running in parallel, but staggered by two weeks. You could give each person 4 weeks to get it done, but then the rest of us would get a new mix every two weeks and you would get to hear more people's mixes that way.


Posted by ziptnf on Jul-22-2009 14:59:

quote:
Originally posted by physe
Maybe another thing to consider would be to have two running in parallel, but staggered by two weeks. You could give each person 4 weeks to get it done, but then the rest of us would get a new mix every two weeks and you would get to hear more people's mixes that way.

Brilliant. There are enough people to warrant this suggestion, I would consider this heavily. A month per mix seems a little too long to wait. Just offset each contestant by two weeks, so we'll get new music every 2 weeks!

You could have the first post on the thread you make have a list of each mix with links to the post they made in that thread, two mixes per month. This idea seems like it could be pretty nice!


Posted by woscar on Jul-22-2009 15:30:

Yeah, that's a great idea! And I think that a month to put it together is more than enough, since all we really have to do is sort through our collections and pick our favorites.


Posted by Lebezniatnikov on Jul-22-2009 18:49:

This would actually be even more interesting if it was completely unmixed as a rule. That way the participant would be free to put absolutely anything on there that speaks to them - in the compilation mixtape spirit of High Fidelity.

I feel like framing it as a "mix" - especially in this sub-forum - would lead a lot of people to place parameters on what they choose in order to deliver it in a mixed format.


Posted by wotyzoid on Jul-22-2009 19:11:

I kind of like Lebez's idea, but I sort of feel that this has also in its interest to showcase the participants as DJ's and not mere listeners thus leaving the result as a collection within the presenter's limitations or lack of for that matter.


Posted by SYSTEM-J on Jul-22-2009 19:12:

quote:
Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov
This would actually be even more interesting if it was completely unmixed as a rule. That way the participant would be free to put absolutely anything on there that speaks to them - in the compilation mixtape spirit of High Fidelity.

I feel like framing it as a "mix" - especially in this sub-forum - would lead a lot of people to place parameters on what they choose in order to deliver it in a mixed format.


But if it's unmixed it will discourage people from using longer 12" mixes that would eat up several minutes with intros and outros. Anyone is free to do the simplest of quick cuts or crossfader slams if they don't want to mix at all, but the option is there.

I'm not convinced by the "two mixes a month" idea, largely because I'm a lazy bastard and I don't want to spend lots of time PMing people and chasing things up. I appreciate that everyone wants to have a go, but I also don't want to cheapen the sharing of special tracks by swamping the forum with mixes.


Posted by Adam420 on Jul-22-2009 19:19:

Guys I think it's obviously not possible to share unmixed collections as that would put us firmly in illegal territory.


Posted by montana on Jul-22-2009 19:46:

i'm not entering but i've done a number of mixtape-y like mixes, mostly personal ones but what i do with those is that i arrange in audacity or audition/cool edit. you put together your mix there and then output your mix as one big file. i arrange because most of the times i'm using tracks at completely different tempos which is what is going to be done here it's easier.


Posted by noikeee on Jul-22-2009 19:48:

quote:
Originally posted by Adam420
Guys I think it's obviously not possible to share unmixed collections as that would put us firmly in illegal territory.


Simple, make any public shared versions of the mixes at 96kbps. If people want to swap PMs with links to the full quality mp3s, then that's their business and outside of the scope of the game.


Posted by SYSTEM-J on Jul-22-2009 20:03:

quote:
Originally posted by montana
i'm not entering...


Any reason?

quote:
Originally posted by noikeee
Simple, make any public shared versions of the mixes at 96kbps. If people want to swap PMs with links to the full quality mp3s, then that's their business and outside of the scope of the game.


That would be a poor decision for at least two reasons. Firstly, who would want to listen to such a low quality file? Secondly, who's going to host all these high quality versions? I have the hosting and would be happy to host mixes, but I'm not hosting two copies of every file under the pretext of legality.

So far, the only argument for unmixed sets is the assumption it will make some people play in a different way, which is in no way proven and doesn't convince me. Allowing people the option of whether they mix properly or just do quick cuts/fades is a far better option as far as I'm concerned.


Posted by montana on Jul-22-2009 20:13:

the selections process would probably take too long. that's why it took a year to do those dubexperience mixes. the personal mixes i do is sometimes sloppy but i'm reluctant to give off anything substandard if someone else is going to hear it


Posted by noikeee on Jul-22-2009 20:13:

Yeah I figured it was a shit idea after pressing "reply".


Posted by SYSTEM-J on Jul-22-2009 20:36:

quote:
Originally posted by montana
the selections process would probably take too long. that's why it took a year to do those dubexperience mixes. the personal mixes i do is sometimes sloppy but i'm reluctant to give off anything substandard if someone else is going to hear it


Shame, because I'd definitely have invited you. You could start drawing up your list now and I'll hold off inviting you for a while if you're going to need time.


Posted by montana on Jul-22-2009 21:01:

ok, i'm game then.


Posted by Lebezniatnikov on Jul-22-2009 21:02:

quote:
Originally posted by montana
the selections process would probably take too long. that's why it took a year to do those dubexperience mixes. the personal mixes i do is sometimes sloppy but i'm reluctant to give off anything substandard if someone else is going to hear it


That's the main reason behind my suggestion.

I'm not terribly interested in listening to a genre mix designed to segue well, etc. I think the general idea is to get an idea of the taste of the assembler, and I think that is going to be narrowed by the medium. I don't honestly see the difference between that and a "classic genre-of-choice dj set".


Posted by SYSTEM-J on Jul-22-2009 21:14:

Like I said, if you're that hung up about it, you can do the most simple of mixing. I've already emphasised the mix-tape aspect, so nobody should have the idea that it should be seamlessly mixed, but I think what you're suggesting is just as restrictive in different ways, ways I've already mentioned.

I expect to hear some wildly different sets from people, and the mixing and programming style will be part of that. The emphasis is on choice.


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