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Posted by Lira on Jul-21-2009 02:21:

quote:
Originally posted by Krypton
I'm sure that's where he was headed Lira!

Yeah!

But, I'd like to draw your attention to a serious issue. Ruslana Korshunova's Suicide. Ruslana Korshunova was a really really hot girl from the noble republic of Kazakhstan. Was nice. But, read on:
quote:

Did she death herself? Was she a deserter?
Though the death of 20-year-old Kazakh model Ruslana Korshunova after falling from her New York balcony has been officially ruled a suicide, wags had already predicted that cranks would immediately seize on conspiracy theories involving the Russian mafia. From digging through Korshunova's blog entries to Zapruder-filmic analysis of death scene photos, no menacingly Slavic stone shall remain unturned. And of course, when you do look under the biggest, heaviest, most lichen-encrusted rock, you'll find Geraldo Rivera airing footage of Korshunova's corpse on a stretcher.

Beyond that, the basic premise of the conspiracy theory is that the Russian (and one assumes, Kazakh) underworld colludes with their semi-legal oligarchic corporate counterparts and corrupt government officials to traffic in high-dollar model flesh. It�s hard to find anyone willing to articulate this theory coherently, much less put their name to it. But here�s a reasonably complete, if bonkers, version. All spelling sic:

�But another theory has been delved upon by some authors of the fashion industry who claim that Ruslana�s death might be related to the model wanting out desperately and not being allowed to do so by the Paris-NewYork-Moscow mafia that controls teeange models. Some reports have linked the economic giant Gazprom with creating a web of model managment and discovery with a a tightly controlled escort spinoff that sets up supermodels with corporative tycoons.�

You may or may not recall that Gazprom is the Russian gas conglomerate that�s enjoyed many years of scandal; it�s also been the object and subject of Russian prime minister Vladimir Putin�s malign influence. The idea of such an outfit getting involved in a �web of model management� is kind of hilarious, though morbid given the present topic. Korshunova�s mother traveled all the way from Kazakhstan to retrieve the body, apparently without interference from the �Paris-New York-Moscow mafia.� Histrionics seem limited to the creeps, as even Korshunova�s main fansite merely colored the page black and noted �You will be missed.�

http://www.blackbookmag.com/article...conspiracy/3325

Now, is she a deserter? Who knows? She could have done so much for the war against terrorism. I'm afraid we will never know. I'm afraid she will never smile again. And, I'm afraid this post is completely unnecessary


Posted by gazelles on Jul-21-2009 02:27:

This reminds me of that guy that deserted Hannibals army before Cannae during the Second Punic War. Hopefully this has a happier ending.


Posted by tubularbills on Jul-21-2009 02:38:






Posted by Scottaculous on Jul-21-2009 04:07:

quote:
Originally posted by Lira
The problem is not with what he's saying, but how he presented his concerns. If you're somewhat sceptical about the whole thing, and you think the guy is a deserter, cool, feel free to add an observation after you make your point. Had he done that, I'd defend him. The problem is that the guy overemphasised something that has not been confirmed yet.

For Fox's sake, doesn't he know what the word "tact" means!?


What he is arguing his belief and opinion. The facts aren't out until we can get the soldier back, and given the evidence, the chances are about 50/50. So what if he is a "glass ifs half empty" kind of guy? Did you listen to the end where he said if it turns the soldier was not a deserter, the Lt. Col. is "with him"?

It's certainly not even close to the craziest rationale a Fox News guest has had. What's the shocker here is the best America's #1 Rated Cable News Channel can do is a Lt. colonel. Now even a real colonel?


Posted by tubularbills on Jul-21-2009 09:46:

quote:
Originally posted by Scottaculous
Now even a real colonel?


and not even an active duty one? i think this guy is retired...but they didn't say he was...but then again he wasn't in uniform either...


Posted by Lebezniatnikov on Jul-21-2009 15:42:

quote:
Originally posted by gazelles
This reminds me of that guy that deserted Hannibals army before Cannae during the Second Punic War. Hopefully this has a happier ending.


Happier ending? Were you cheering for Rome?

From Appian:

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[�22] When Hannibal saw that his maneuver had failed, he gave the signal to his 500 Celtiberians. These passing out of their own line of battle went over to the Romans, holding out their shields, spears, and swords in the manner of deserters. [Gnaeus] Servilius [Geminus] commended them and at once took possession of their arms and stationed them in the rear, in their tunics alone as he supposed, for he did not think it best to put deserters in chains in the sight of the enemy, nor did he have any suspicion of men whom he saw with nothing but their tunics, nor was there time to take counsel in the thick of the fray.


Now some of the African cohorts made a pretense of flight toward the mountains, uttering loud cries. This was the signal to those concealed in the ravines to fall upon the pursuers. Straightway the light-armed troops and cavalry that had been placed in ambush showed themselves, and simultaneously a strong and blinding wind rose carrying dust into the eyes of the Romans, which prevented them from seeing their enemies. The impetus of the Roman missiles was lessened by the opposing wind, while that of the enemy's was increased and their aim made surer. The Romans, not being able to see and avoid the enemy's weapons nor to take good aim with their own, stumbled against each other and soon fell into disorder of various kinds.
[�23] At this juncture the 500 Celtiberians, seeing that the expected opportunity had come, drew their daggers from their bosoms and first slew those who were just in front of them, then, seizing the swords, shields, and spears of the dead, made a greater onslaught against the whole line, darting from one to another indiscriminately, and they accomplished all the greater slaughter inasmuch as they were in the rear of all. Now were the Romans in great and various trouble, assailed by the enemy in front, by ambuscades in flank, and butchered by foes amid their own ranks. They could not turn upon the latter on account of the pressure of the enemy in front and because it was not easy to distinguish these assailants, for they had possessed themselves of Roman shields. Most of all were they harassed by the dust, which prevented them from even guessing what was taking place.

But (as usually happens in cases of disorder and panic) they considered their condition worse than it was, the ambuscades more dreadful, and the 500 more numerous than 500. In short, they imagined that their whole army was surrounded by hostile cavalry and deserters. So they turned and broke into headlong flight, first those on the right wing where [consul Gaius Terentius] Varro himself led the retreat, and after them the left wing, whose commander, Servilius, however, went to the assistance of [Lucius] Aemilius [Paullus]. Around these the bravest of the horse and foot rallied, to the number of about 10,000.

[�24] The generals and all the others who had horses, although surrounded by Hannibal's cavalry, dismounted and fought on foot. They charged the enemy with fury and performed many brilliant exploits, the fruit of military experience, being nerved by the energy of despair. But they fell on all sides, and Hannibal, darting hither and thither, encouraged his soldiers, now exhorting them to make their victory complete, now rebuking and reproaching them because, after they had scattered the main body of the enemy, they could not overcome the small remainder.

As long as Aemilius and Servilius survived the Romans stood firm, although giving and receiving many wounds, but when their generals fell they forced their way through the midst of their enemies most bravely, and escaped in various directions. Some took refuge in the two camps where others had preceded them in flight. These were altogether about 15,000, whom Hannibal straightway besieged. Others, to the number of about 2,000, took refuge in Cannae, and these surrendered to Hannibal. A few escaped to Canusium. The remainder were dispersed in groups through the woods.



It would be kind of baller if this "deserter" was like that.


Posted by Lebezniatnikov on Jul-23-2009 21:07:

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I don't know what the most ridiculous part of that video was. Actually, yeah, probably this part:

Courtney Friel says: "There's camera's everywhere, and it's unfortunate that it seems like your only options are to keep your clothes on or stay in shape."

Amazing.


Posted by fbgdavidson on Jul-23-2009 22:37:

quote:
Originally posted by Lira
For Fox's sake, doesn't he know what the word "tact" means!?


I read that as 'for fuck's sake'


Posted by MeLLyMeL on Jul-24-2009 02:23:

that is pretty fuking disgusting how gross some guys can be.


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