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Posted by Domesticated on Jul-29-2009 05:50:

It amazes me how transient the young population in America is.

In Australia it's really only started happening in the past decade, and the small percentage of people who do move only tend to do it once or twice. Over there it seems that large tracts of the population are regularly moving, and three or four times doesn't seem to be unusual.


Posted by Paradox Lost on Jul-29-2009 05:51:

quote:
Originally posted by jennypie
What the fuck is an associate's degree? I don't understand that about the States. Up here anything less than a bachelor's is just a diploma or certificate.


It's what's awarded upon graduation from a community college here in the States.

Put it another way, imagine completing two years of a four year university, and getting a certificate for it.

Perhaps it's just useful for those who would like to stretch themselves beyond a high school diploma (for various reasons), but are unable/unwilling to commit to a four year university program in order to obtain a bachelors.

EDIT: Or, yeah, what Omega said.


Posted by Sushipunk on Jul-29-2009 05:53:

quote:
Originally posted by Domesticated
It amazes me how transient the young population in America is.

In Australia it's really only started happening in the past decade, and the small percentage of people who do move only tend to do it once or twice. Over there it seems that large tracts of the population are regularly moving, and three or four times doesn't seem to be unusual.


They do have a lot more options for places to move to though, at least as far as cities go. Over here, there's prety much the 3 big ones on the east coast - There aren't too many folk who dream of moving west, even though Perth is supposedly pretty sweet. It's just that there's nothing else over there


Posted by Silky Johnson on Jul-29-2009 05:53:

I guess that I've just always associated the word degree with more academic programs.

I think your system is stupid, lol.


Posted by Silky Johnson on Jul-29-2009 05:55:

quote:
Originally posted by Paradox Lost
It's what's awarded upon graduation from a community college here in the States.

Put it another way, imagine completing two years of a four year university, and getting a certificate for it.

Perhaps it's just useful for those who would like to stretch themselves beyond a high school diploma (for various reasons), but are unable/unwilling to commit to a four year university program in order to obtain a bachelors.

EDIT: Or, yeah, what Omega said.





Yeah see? I think that's stupid. Just what the world needs to do: help out the stupid and unable to commit. That's probably why there's so many fucking morons where they don't belong in the world.


Posted by Omega_Blue on Jul-29-2009 05:56:

quote:
Originally posted by Domesticated
It amazes me how transient the young population in America is.

In Australia it's really only started happening in the past decade, and the small percentage of people who do move only tend to do it once or twice. Over there it seems that large tracts of the population are regularly moving, and three or four times doesn't seem to be unusual.


i can't speak for the entire american population's youth, but yeah i've moved 7 times within the last 5 years. yikes, i guess that is quite a bit.

quote:
Originally posted by Paradox Lost
It's what's awarded upon graduation from a community college here in the States.

Put it another way, imagine completing two years of a four year university, and getting a certificate for it.

Perhaps it's just useful for those who would like to stretch themselves beyond a high school diploma (for various reasons), but are unable/unwilling to commit to a four year university program in order to obtain a bachelors.

EDIT: Or, yeah, what Omega said.


i mean, it looks good on a resume but doesn't mean jack shit, and hasn't helped me land any job other than welding ever (and the only reason i never have a problem getting hired for welding jobs is because i've been doing it for 6 years)

edit: actually, here's a picture of me doin' my thang. keepin' it gangsta nukka


Posted by Paradox Lost on Jul-29-2009 06:03:

quote:
Originally posted by jennypie
Yeah see? I think that's stupid. Just what the world needs to do: help out the stupid and unable to commit. That's probably why there's so many fucking morons where they don't belong in the world.


Well, there certainly are some practical advantages involved here, depending upon your life circumstances.

"Associates Degree" is essentially the equivalent of being accredited for the completion of 'some college,' and certainly looks better on a resume than merely listing a high school diploma.

If you're unable to involve yourself in a four year program for the purposes of time, money, and travel, you can usually find a community college that has convenient class times, is cheap, and is close by, which will get you that (admittedly unsubstantial) 'associates advantage.'

If that is so, then an associates degree might very well be the thing for you at a certain time.

However, the associates degree also happens to be the degree of those that are of the 'ok, is this good enough?' mindset.


Posted by yukii on Jul-29-2009 06:03:

don't worry about it too much. if you put your mind into anything- you can do it.

i was born late into the year so i was supposed to be put in school the year later, but my dad put me in private school so i could start early. i struggled in school a lot bc i had difficulty speaking english with spanish at home.. but later on i became a straight a student and pretty much all my classes were AP in high school. i was in the varsity soccer team, was secretary treasurer, honor society, science club (stfu) and so i was always busy & stressed but it paid off bc i was able to push my limits and it feels good when you see how much you've accomplished.

i moved to the states in the summer before my senior year and hated it here so i graduated in 5 months & started college the next semester. in spring ill be a junior- everyone that is my age is barely half way with their first year.. so i feel pretty accomplished and it's a good feeling bc you know you're going somewhere when you set a lot of plans for yourself..

cor version: work hard and you can accomplish many things that pay off.


Posted by Silky Johnson on Jul-29-2009 06:05:

quote:
Originally posted by Paradox Lost

However, the associates degree also happens to be the degree of those that are of the 'ok, is this good enough?' mindset.





Yeah exactly. Fucking crock of shit. No wonder people these days have such a shitty fucking work ethic, when they're practically handed an "education". Total bullshit.


Posted by Krypton on Jul-29-2009 06:08:

quote:
Originally posted by The17sss
yeah I was thinking that too... maybe that's why K-dawg had been edgy?

It's cool though Krypton- props for not broadcasting your every personal move like some people on TA. Hope you stay clean dude.


Ya thanks. I just decided one day after smoking a fat blunt that it was time to move on. But quitting is easier said than done after 4 years of daily morning-to-night smoke outs. Plus the E, acid, shrooms, scripts, coke I've done. It was just best I went into a detox program for drug addiction. I'v tried to quit before, but the anxiety was too much to bear. For the last 4 weeks, I have been going 3 times a week, for acupuncture, massage, and spinal adjustment. Add to that, some heavy duty supplements (90% metabolic absorption), and I feel better than ever! Much healthier, better mood, and I'm told, my demeanor exudes far more confidence than before ("You stand taller!"). My body is detoxified and I can definitely feel the difference. You don't know how deficient your body is in nutrients until you eat right and take a really high quality supplement(s). I was chronically depressed and that stuff brought me out of it. Plus, it's better than Viagra!!

No way I could go into finance and be all drugged out 24/7.

Yukii did break up with me because of my drug use, and I guess that's when I hit rock bottom and decided, I'm done with this shit. Best decision I ever made. I got my girl back!


Posted by yukii on Jul-29-2009 06:11:

quote:
Originally posted by Krypton
Yukii did break up with me because of my drug use, and I guess that's when I hit rock bottom and decided, I'm done with this shit. Best decision I ever made. I got my girl back!



Posted by Paradox Lost on Jul-29-2009 06:13:

quote:
Originally posted by yukii


And you feel unappreciated.


Posted by yukii on Jul-29-2009 06:13:

quote:
Originally posted by Paradox Lost
And you feel unappreciated.


i dont want to begin talking about my day.

+he wrote that after i made the thread.


Posted by Omega_Blue on Jul-29-2009 06:15:

quote:
Originally posted by jennypie
Yeah exactly. Fucking crock of shit. No wonder people these days have such a shitty fucking work ethic, when they're practically handed an "education". Total bullshit.


to be fair, an associates of arts & sciences is exactly the same as taking the first two years of your bachelor's degree- same class requirements, same tuition, etc. so someone who does so isn't really getting "handed" anything. and again, the associate's degree by itself really does nothing for pursuing a career, unless the job requirements literally state "must have 2 year degree or better" or something like that.


Posted by Renzo on Jul-29-2009 06:18:

I slang rocks.


Posted by Silky Johnson on Jul-29-2009 06:19:

quote:
Originally posted by Omega_Blue
to be fair, an associates of arts & sciences is exactly the same as taking the first two years of your bachelor's degree- same class requirements, same tuition, etc. so someone who does so isn't really getting "handed" anything. and again, the associate's degree by itself really does nothing for pursuing a career, unless the job requirements literally state "must have 2 year degree or better" or something like that.





I'm so glad Canada doesn't work like that, lol.


Posted by Sushipunk on Jul-29-2009 06:20:

quote:
Originally posted by Krypton
Ya thanks. I just decided one day after smoking a fat blunt that it was time to move on. But quitting is easier said than done after 4 years of daily morning-to-night smoke outs. Plus the E, acid, shrooms, scripts, coke I've done. It was just best I went into a detox program for drug addiction. I'v tried to quit before, but the anxiety was too much to bear. For the last 4 weeks, I have been going 3 times a week, for acupuncture, massage, and spinal adjustment. Add to that, some heavy duty supplements (90% metabolic absorption), and I feel better than ever! Much healthier, better mood, and I'm told, my demeanor exudes far more confidence than before ("You stand taller!"). My body is detoxified and I can definitely feel the difference. You don't know how deficient your body is in nutrients until you eat right and take a really high quality supplement(s). I was chronically depressed and that stuff brought me out of it. Plus, it's better than Viagra!!

No way I could go into finance and be all drugged out 24/7.

Yukii did break up with me because of my drug use, and I guess that's when I hit rock bottom and decided, I'm done with this shit. Best decision I ever made. I got my girl back!


Nice one man, I honestly had no idea. Way to sort your priorties out


Posted by Omega_Blue on Jul-29-2009 06:22:

quote:
Originally posted by jennypie
I'm so glad Canada doesn't work like that, lol.


i suppose. i mean, there should obviously be a differentiation between people who intend to get a 2 year degree and people who just happened to drop out after 2 years. but then again, why go to school for 4 years if your intended field only requires 2? self-improvement aside, of course.


Posted by The17sss on Jul-29-2009 06:23:

fo real. my best friend smoked like that for years too... he said when he finally stopped and the fog in his brain lifted, he couldn't believe how much more shit he started to remember on a daily basis... like, simple conversations and being able to retrace the steps of his day.


Posted by bas on Jul-29-2009 06:23:

What's with all the hate for Associate's Degrees? Someone could be a very successful secretary with that.


Posted by Domesticated on Jul-29-2009 06:26:

quote:
Originally posted by bas
What's with all the hate for Associate's Degrees? Someone could be a very successful secretary with that.


Or even learn how to use apostrophes.


Posted by Silky Johnson on Jul-29-2009 06:27:

quote:
Originally posted by Omega_Blue
i suppose. i mean, there should obviously be a differentiation between people who intend to get a 2 year degree and people who just happened to drop out after 2 years. but then again, why go to school for 4 years if your intended field only requires 2? self-improvement aside, of course.



It's the principle, really. I mean why bother with that at all? Up here you either choose community college and get a diploma after 3 years in something more practical, or university and get a degree after 4 years and do something more academic. Pretty simple.


Posted by Omega_Blue on Jul-29-2009 06:30:

quote:
Originally posted by Domesticated
Or even learn how to use apostrophes.


lolpwnd

quote:
Originally posted by jennypie
It's the principle, really. I mean why bother with that at all? Up here you either choose community college and get a diploma after 3 years in something more practical, or university and get a degree after 4 years and do something more academic. Pretty simple.


i see what you mean, but i think 2 year community college degrees are useful for some people in certain situations- even if it is just for personal growth. mine, for example, was used as part of a guaranteed transfer program to any university in wisconsin, so i guess it depends on the application.


Posted by bas on Jul-29-2009 06:31:

quote:
Originally posted by Domesticated
Or even learn how to use apostrophes.

It's Associate's Degree you fuckin' abbo. Shut your goddamn half-breed mouth.

quote:
Originally posted by Omega_Blue
lolpwnd

You too. I understand that English is a second language for you, but it's Associate's because it's a degree that belongs to an Associate. Otherwise it would be Associates Degree which doesn't mak any sense anyway.

Looks like it's pretty clear who went to school here


Posted by Krypton on Jul-29-2009 06:31:

quote:
Originally posted by The17sss
fo real. my best friend smoked like that for years too... he said when he finally stopped and the fog in his brain lifted, he couldn't believe how much more shit he started to remember on a daily basis... like, simple conversations and being able to retrace the steps of his day.


Yea, THE FOG. You don't know you're in one until you're out of it.


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