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Posted by Kismet7 on Aug-07-2009 11:19:

I've discovered that Thomas Penton's kicks for his sample packs are actually kicks from other samples packs, heavily limited and "mastered". Especially the kicks in "Thomas Penton Essential Drums." I've found the exact same kicks in another library, but in the library they likely orginated the kicks are not limited at all, and you have to add quite a bit of gain to get them to a mixing volume.

At the moment i'm looking for a kick library that is really clean, and not processed at all. Or I think im gonna have to go with a Jomox box.

Posted by Acton on Aug-07-2009 11:51:

quote:
Originally posted by PutBoy
Try this:

Send the kick to a send channel, on the send add a compressor with the lowest attack possible (preferably none at all), a ratio at 2:1, and a treshhold at 50 dB. The release should be at 300-400 ms.

Cut out the low 200hz or something like it

A frequency cut at 200hz to make the kick "thump harder", are you being serious?

Why send the kick to a different channel for FX processing? (unless you're layering it with another kick drum).

Posted by studiobob on Aug-07-2009 13:03:

thats parallel compression at work. the original kik is still playing with a compressed version of the signal on top from the send. works wonders

Posted by evo8 on Aug-07-2009 13:46:

quote:
Originally posted by Acton
A frequency cut at 200hz to make the kick "thump harder", are you being serious?

Why send the kick to a different channel for FX processing? (unless you're layering it with another kick drum).

I think he means cut at 200 on the send channel

Posted by samplemaniac on Aug-11-2009 11:45:

quote:
Originally posted by Kismet7
I've discovered that Thomas Penton's kicks for his sample packs are actually kicks from other samples packs, heavily limited and "mastered". Especially the kicks in "Thomas Penton Essential Drums." I've found the exact same kicks in another library, but in the library they likely orginated the kicks are not limited at all, and you have to add quite a bit of gain to get them to a mixing volume.

At the moment i'm looking for a kick library that is really clean, and not processed at all. Or I think im gonna have to go with a Jomox box.

exactly what I discovered
so he rips of other sampling companies. I wonder why this seems not to be a "big drama" here?

Posted by dannib on Aug-11-2009 17:44:

Yes its the same with Vengeance as discussed here before.

I am starting think that Thomas Penton is as bad as vengeance!

Vengeance rip most of their sounds from other peoples tracks and old ueberschall cds

Thomas penton rips from vengeance, ueberschall etc and applies a limiter. what the.....?

i think we concluded in another thread that it would be impossible for anything to be done about this, unless all the djs and sample companies got together and stopped this blatent theft.

I just avoid these companies products. Simple.

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