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Posted by tubularbills on Aug-10-2009 10:26:

simple answer: no. grow the fuck up and get a jerb.


Posted by Domesticated on Aug-10-2009 10:29:

I really can't understand shit-cunts who don't want to work.

When I have sick days, I am usually bored by midday and craving some stimulation, and I don't even really like my job.

Work is the lesser of two evils.


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Aug-10-2009 11:04:

quote:
Originally posted by Domesticated
I really can't understand shit-cunts who don't want to work.


its really not rocket science. would i prefer to play games all day or get up early and go spend time with people whom i normally wouldn't choose to hang out with?

quote:
Originally posted by Domesticated
When I have sick days, I am usually bored by midday


you're doing it wrong. midday is when you have breakfast. if you are up early i mean.

quote:
Originally posted by Domesticated
and craving some stimulation, and I don't even really like my job.


yeah of course, but there's nothing in the stimulation rulebook that says you can't be stimulated by things that don't require you to wear a tie or be out of bed at unholy hours. what kinda work do you do?

quote:
Originally posted by Domesticated
Work is the lesser of two evils.


work is like the greater of a bajillion evils.

everyone lives for the weekend. why would i want to limit the weekend to 2 days out of 7, if i could make it 7 for 7?


Posted by Trance Nutter on Aug-10-2009 11:11:

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
yeah of course, but there's nothing in the stimulation rulebook that says you can't be stimulated by things that don't require you to wear a tie or be out of bed at unholy hours. what kinda work do you do?


theres nothing saying that work has to be those things either

Theres plenty of things you could be doing instead of your job you hate. Just admit that you're too lazy to actually find your 'thing' and would rather be mooching off those who actually have ambition in life.


Posted by Domesticated on Aug-10-2009 11:15:

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
its really not rocket science. would i prefer to play games all day or get up early and go spend time with people whom i normally wouldn't choose to hang out with?


Games, internet and TV get boring after three or four hours. I'd love to hang out with my friends, but they're all at work during the day (surprise surprise!)

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
you're doing it wrong. midday is when you have breakfast. if you are up early i mean.


Believe me, I understand this. The other day I slept from 5pm to 9am. I love a good sleep. To be fair though, my example was when I am sick, which usually wakes me up. Also, after years of work, my bodyclock usually wakes me up at 8am anyway. Besides, sleep-ins are only good for three days, max. After that you catch up and it's all wasted time.

quote:
Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
yeah of course, but there's nothing in the stimulation rulebook that says you can't be stimulated by things that don't require you to wear a tie or be out of bed at unholy hours. what kinda work do you do?


I work 10 hours in an office, but I sure as hell don't wear a tie.

quote:
Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
work is like the greater of a bajillion evils.

everyone lives for the weekend. why would i want to limit the weekend to 2 days out of 7, if i could make it 7 for 7?


My ideal mix would be three days at work, and four off, provided everyone else was on the same deal. Skipping work is great, but it's useless unless there are other people around to enjoy it with.


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Aug-10-2009 11:16:

quote:
Originally posted by Trance Nutter
theres nothing saying that work has to be those things either


i was being generic.

quote:
Originally posted by Trance Nutter
Theres plenty of things you could be doing instead of your job you hate.


yeah, other jobs i'd hate. awesome.

quote:
Originally posted by Trance Nutter
Just admit that you're too lazy to actually find your 'thing' and would rather be mooching off those who actually have ambition in life.


and who am i mooching off, cockfag?


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Aug-10-2009 11:25:

quote:
Originally posted by Domesticated
Games, internet and TV get boring after three or four hours. I'd love to hang out with my friends, but they're all at work during the day (surprise surprise!)


well, in my fantasy world all my friends have time off too and there's always time for new friends! you could hang out with BTG and ******** down the dole office.

quote:
Originally posted by Domesticated
Believe me, I understand this. The other day I slept from 5pm to 9am. I love a good sleep. To be fair though, my example was when I am sick, which usually wakes me up. Also, after years of work, my bodyclock usually wakes me up at 8am anyway. Besides, sleep-ins are only good for three days, max. After that you catch up and it's all wasted time.


yeah, sleeping is the best.

quote:
Originally posted by Domesticated
My ideal mix would be three days at work, and four off, provided everyone else was on the same deal. Skipping work is great, but it's useless unless there are other people around to enjoy it with.


see, my ideal mix would be whatever i wanted to do on any given day, which i would decide upon over breakfast, ~1.30pm

im always a little surprised by people's defenses of the institution of work, as if it was inherently good. as far as im concerned work is good because it gives me the ability to enjoy aspects of life other than work. imagine how much more of everything you could explore and experience if you weren't somebody else's property during the day. yeah karl, i still hear you *hugz*


Posted by Trance Nutter on Aug-10-2009 11:27:

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
and who am i mooching off, cockfag?


I didn't say you are mooching off anyone.
I too though was being generic of people who would prefer to just be on welfare rather than trying to find out what their thing actually is. Like this BTG cockfag.
If you actually made an effort I'm sure you'd find something you could do instead of a job you hate, rather than just not trying because you think you'd hate everything.


Posted by Domesticated on Aug-10-2009 11:34:

quote:
Originally posted by Trance Nutter
theres nothing saying that work has to be those things either

Theres plenty of things you could be doing instead of your job you hate. Just admit that you're too lazy to actually find your 'thing' and would rather be mooching off those who actually have ambition in life.


This.

I believe that pretty much everyone with the constitution can find a job they enjoy, even the least intelligent and skillful among us.

p.s I am quitting my job at the end of this year and I can't fucking wait. I have around 7-8k of unpaid leave owing to me. I was never one for pointless holidays.


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Aug-10-2009 11:41:

quote:
Originally posted by Trance Nutter
I didn't say you are mooching off anyone.
I too though was being generic of people who would prefer to just be on welfare rather than trying to find out what their thing actually is. Like this BTG cockfag.


well yeah. i did enjoy my 13 months on the dole after graduating though. was glorious

quote:
Originally posted by Trance Nutter
If you actually made an effort I'm sure you'd find something you could do instead of a job you hate, rather than just not trying because you think you'd hate everything.


yeah, that's definitely true. but its also a matter of simply not being able to downsize the income to follow something less tangible. i have to chase the dollar now. nobody aint gonna pay me for playing no games, yo. fit more negatives in a single sentence and ill give you a cookie.

quote:
Originally posted by Domesticated
p.s I am quitting my job at the end of this year and I can't fucking wait.


see! you agree


quote:
Originally posted by Domesticated
I was never one for pointless holidays.


ive always considered holidays to be innately point-ful. kinda like nature. there is an inherent "worth" to it even as a kid i fucking hated getting up in the morning for school.


Posted by MrJiveBoJingles on Aug-10-2009 12:45:

I have to go with PKC on this one. I have serious doubts that I'll ever find a job where the interesting aspects outweigh the boring or annoying ones. My standard for a "good" job is something I would want to do even if I never had to work for a living, e.g. if I inherited a bunch of wealth or something. Making music would be one such "job."


Posted by Domesticated on Aug-10-2009 13:07:

You're all pieces of shit. Go and kill yourselves so that those of us who enjoy and value life can be left to improve it for ourselves.

Also, rebutting with 'I like life, I just don't like work' is completely invalid, because a huge part of life IS work. The human brain is wired to receive rewards and generate satisfaction after completing tasks that are not necessarily 'fun'; humans would not have gotten anywhere today were in not for those who made it their life work to invent electricity or cars or the theory of relativity or whatever. It sounds platitudinous, but nothing easy in life is worth having (except, of course, pkc's mother). Things can only be fully enjoyed when you have sacrificed for them.

You're all just evil spawn of the over-stimulated internet generation.

Also, did anyone else pick up on the fact that pkc doesn't want to work, when just two days ago he was calling all Americans laze-abouts and brats with no work ethic? Huh.


Posted by MrJiveBoJingles on Aug-10-2009 13:13:

quote:
Originally posted by Domesticated
You're all pieces of shit. Go and kill yourselves so that those of us who enjoy and value life can be left to improve it for ourselves.

Also, rebutting with 'I like life, I just don't like work' is completely invalid, because a huge part of life IS work.

I love work that's actually rewarding, and I like overcoming challenges and figuring out how to get things done. I just think most "jobs" involve work that is boring, deadeningly routine, and not very rewarding at all.


Posted by MrJiveBoJingles on Aug-10-2009 13:17:

What kind of job do you have, btw?


Posted by Domesticated on Aug-10-2009 13:18:

quote:
Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
I love work that's actually rewarding, and I like overcoming challenges and figuring out how to get things done. I just think most "jobs" involve work that is boring, deadeningly routine, and not very rewarding at all.


a) That's bullshit.

b) Go and find the work that you think is actually rewarding. You seem to be very academically inclined and a bit of a book worm. Wouldn't something like a research position at a University suit your criteria?


Posted by MrJiveBoJingles on Aug-10-2009 13:19:

Sure, but I graduated with a shit GPA and a degree in a rather useless field I don't think I want to pursue. Good luck getting a decent university job with that.


Posted by Domesticated on Aug-10-2009 13:20:

quote:
Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
What kind of job do you have, btw?


A 9-5 office job.

It's not my lifelong dream, but in the short-term, it's helped me achieve financial security for the next few years at least. My search for the dream job starts in 2011 when I get back from travelling.


Posted by Domesticated on Aug-10-2009 13:22:

quote:
Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
Sure, but I graduated with a shit GPA and a degree in a rather useless field I don't think I want to pursue. Good luck getting a decent university job with that.



There are ways around those obstacles: it's all a matter of will-power.


Posted by Spam on Aug-10-2009 15:32:

Get on welfare and then stay in a friend's basement. Bing bang boom.


Posted by Nostalgic on Aug-10-2009 19:36:

Work isn't great at all, but what the fuck am I gonna do all day without working? Besides after every two weeks when you see that nice paycheck auto-deposited into your bank account all negative feelings of work subside.


Posted by BTG on Aug-10-2009 21:48:

I think work was designed to distract humans from accomplishing great things.

like where is the reverse microwave?


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Aug-10-2009 23:21:

quote:
Originally posted by Domesticated
You're all pieces of shit. Go and kill yourselves so that those of us who enjoy and value life can be left to improve it for ourselves.


hey, just because you've been brainwashed by "the man" into thinking work is a natural part of everything, don't try and sell that shit to us!

quote:
Originally posted by Domesticated
Also, rebutting with 'I like life, I just don't like work' is completely invalid, because a huge part of life IS work.


hence our disdain, duh.

quote:
Originally posted by Domesticated
The human brain is wired to receive rewards and generate satisfaction after completing tasks that are not necessarily 'fun';


what bollocks. the human brain is wired to be self-interested. how that interest manifests itself is up to the individual. just because you wanna sit around all day and masturbate over your job doesn't mean you're the default model of human.

quote:
Originally posted by Domesticated
humans would not have gotten anywhere today were in not for those who made it their life work to invent electricity or cars or the theory of relativity or whatever. It sounds platitudinous, but nothing easy in life is worth having (except, of course, pkc's mother). Things can only be fully enjoyed when you have sacrificed for them.


ive never see so much bullshit from you in a single post, especially the highlighted portion. i think you're confusing the dark ages with post modernity. the whole point of modernisation is having things that are worthwhile without having to work (relatively) for them.

quote:
Originally posted by Domesticated
You're all just evil spawn of the over-stimulated internet generation.


i turn 31 in 4 weeks. im not the internet generation.

quote:
Originally posted by Domesticated
Also, did anyone else pick up on the fact that pkc doesn't want to work, when just two days ago he was calling all Americans laze-abouts and brats with no work ethic? Huh.


jesus; way to go paraphrasing horribly. what i said was that third-world nation peasants have a greater understanding of the importance of work compared to their first-world cousins. don't be dishonest blog, it doesn't suit you.

...

way to go swallowing the ruling class ideology, hook, line, sinker, rod & copy of angling times.


Posted by Domesticated on Aug-12-2009 06:33:

Socialist cunt.


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Aug-12-2009 07:05:

quote:
Originally posted by Domesticated
Socialist cunt.


lmfao

you've been in form of late!


Posted by winston on Aug-12-2009 07:10:

agree, fuck work...

trust fund your life away

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joss w.


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