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Posted by ChemEnhanced on Aug-11-2009 22:41:

quote:
Originally posted by smuncky
cyclists should also wear life jackets. it only makes sense.


and seatbelts


Posted by miketg23 on Aug-12-2009 01:08:

"In urban areas where a curb lane is too narrow to share safely with a motorist, it is legal to take the whole lane by riding in the center of it. This action is safer than riding near the curb, which may encourage a motorist to squeeze, by where there isn't sufficient room. If you are uncomfortable in the center of the lane, take an alternate route. On high-speed roads, it is not safe to take the whole lane."

http://www.onlysports.ca/index.php/...cling-Laws.html


If this goes through, expect a lot more cyclists to take up a lot more room


Posted by feelgood on Aug-12-2009 01:08:

quote:
Originally posted by Cro_Addict
I fucking hate the cyclists as well!

They ride around not really obeying any laws at all. I love driving so close to the curb so they cant get past me..lol...


Watch out buddy.

See, Im that fixed gear riding messenger who has no problem putting a nice scratch or dent across your car. Also, piss me off enough and ill have a bike lock through your window in no time.

When you see me (or any other cyclist) adjacent to you please dont play stupid games like that.


Posted by ChemEnhanced on Aug-12-2009 01:15:

quote:
Originally posted by feelgood
Watch out buddy.

See, Im that fixed gear riding messenger who has no problem putting a nice scratch or dent across your car. Also, piss me off enough and ill have a bike lock through your window in no time.

When you see me (or any other cyclist) adjacent to you please dont play stupid games like that.


And I'm the driver who would have no problem with having you put in jail and then file a lawsuit against you.


Posted by Jayx1 on Aug-12-2009 03:06:

quote:
Originally posted by miketg23
"In urban areas where a curb lane is too narrow to share safely with a motorist, it is legal to take the whole lane by riding in the center of it. This action is safer than riding near the curb, which may encourage a motorist to squeeze, by where there isn't sufficient room. If you are uncomfortable in the center of the lane, take an alternate route. On high-speed roads, it is not safe to take the whole lane."

http://www.onlysports.ca/index.php/...cling-Laws.html


If this goes through, expect a lot more cyclists to take up a lot more room


And a lot more run over cyclists. I cant wait for the day when a car going 60 runs into a bike going 10. Id hate to be that cyclist.

Un real


Posted by Jayx1 on Aug-12-2009 03:08:

quote:
Originally posted by feelgood
Watch out buddy.

See, Im that fixed gear riding messenger who has no problem putting a nice scratch or dent across your car. Also, piss me off enough and ill have a bike lock through your window in no time.

When you see me (or any other cyclist) adjacent to you please dont play stupid games like that.


Are you the douche on the bike that yelled at me the other day when i was making a right turn and GOD FORBID temporarily blocked the lane that i was legally allowed to be in?

If you consider yourself a vehicle which you should under current laws... wait behind me. And dont give me attitude because im blocking you from breaking the law in the first place.


Posted by feelgood on Aug-12-2009 04:42:

quote:
Originally posted by Jayx1
Are you the douche on the bike that yelled at me the other day when i was making a right turn and GOD FORBID temporarily blocked the lane that i was legally allowed to be in?

If you consider yourself a vehicle which you should under current laws... wait behind me. And dont give me attitude because im blocking you from breaking the law in the first place.


Are you the guy who went and vented on a forum because you may have been yelled at, due to inadvertently cutting said cyclist off?

Everything is perspective.

I dont piss off drivers for spite. We're all trying to get from one place to another. I've been riding in the city for years, i know the rules and I abide by them. In fact id venture to say i know the rules better than most of the cell phone addicted drivers out there. However when some imbecile decides that its lol funny to see how close to the curb he can get. That pisses me off. Don't screw around on the road. Trust me, ive seen enough go wrong. All it takes is for a side mirror to just tap the elbow of a cyclist and then shit hits the fan.


Posted by Jayx1 on Aug-12-2009 05:01:

For this guy to go off like he did was inapropriate. Especially when he proceeded through the intersection on a red without stopping after i moved. If bicyclists want to be taken seriously they need to learn how to share the road. I dont support licensing but i do think the police should be charging them more often for blatantly disrespecting the law.

And i also think that cyclist with your mentality need to calm down and realize that they dont own the road and need to share it with other vehicles. If a car stops close to the curb you need to stop behind it and wait your turn. IMO its lucky that bikes can go up the side of a car in the first place. Motorbikes cant!


Posted by Jayx1 on Aug-12-2009 16:44:

quote:
Originally posted by Cosmic Fur
Spacing is a minor issue that would range from street to street obviously. I'm talking about a distinct separation between where cars travel and where bikes travel.


With enough minor roads criss crossing the city i dont know why cyclists feel the need for bike lanes all over the place. When i ride a bike i take the sideroads and only take the main road for the half block it takes to get to my destination.

Maybe on extra wide boulevards a bike lane could be an option. But it usually gets filled in with snow half the year anyways.


Posted by smuncky on Aug-12-2009 16:47:

quote:
Originally posted by ChemEnhanced
and seatbelts


why not just ban bikes altogether?


Posted by FunkyCrew on Aug-12-2009 16:48:

I once saw a douchcyclist block Queen/Bay interesection going West cos the car tried to cut him off - the idiot just got off his bike, blocking the whole lane and started dialing 911... seeing his ass get kicked by a cop on a bike made my day


Posted by Jayx1 on Aug-12-2009 16:59:

quote:
Originally posted by FunkyCrew
I once saw a douchcyclist block Queen/Bay interesection going West cos the car tried to cut him off - the idiot just got off his bike, blocking the whole lane and started dialing 911... seeing his ass get kicked by a cop on a bike made my day


LOL that would have been hilarious


Posted by VERTiG0 on Aug-12-2009 17:06:

LETS BAN ALL FORMS OF LOCOMOTION

EVEN WALKING





WELCOME TO CANADA

YEAH, YOU CAN'T FLY HERE, IT'S ILLEGAL. BETTER START WALKING

OH, YOU'RE FROM EUROPE? THAT'S A SHAME HUH


Posted by ChemEnhanced on Aug-12-2009 17:17:

quote:
Originally posted by smuncky
why not just ban bikes altogether?


you can't make any money if they are banned


Posted by basilisk on Aug-12-2009 19:13:

This bike licensing stuff will never fly. What this city needs is more bike lanes, more cyclist-friendly initiatives. Devoting the metropolis to automobiles is not a sustainable option.

Still waiting on that bike highway from the Junction to the core.


Posted by Jayx1 on Aug-12-2009 19:16:

quote:
Originally posted by basilisk
This bike licensing stuff will never fly. What this city needs is more bike lanes, more cyclist-friendly initiatives. Devoting the metropolis to automobiles is not a sustainable option.

Still waiting on that bike highway from the Junction to the core.


What we need are more subways. Most people will never ride a bike in winter. Once we wrap our heads around that fact we will actually succeed in fixing this broken city.


Posted by miketg23 on Aug-12-2009 19:37:

quote:
Originally posted by Jayx1
What we need are more subways. Most people will never ride a bike in winter. Once we wrap our heads around that fact we will actually succeed in fixing this broken city.


Agreed

I'm surprised there are people other than those at city council that think further choking drivers is the solution to our transit problems.


Posted by DigiNut on Aug-12-2009 22:30:

quote:
Originally posted by feelgood
See, Im that fixed gear riding messenger who has no problem putting a nice scratch or dent across your car. Also, piss me off enough and ill have a bike lock through your window in no time.

I'm always amused at pedestrians and cyclists who think they have a god-given right to cause thousands of dollars in property damage because somebody pissed them off.

Just wait until the day one of them calls the police - or better yet, the day you find out that one of them keeps a baseball bat in the trunk, or a handgun in the glove box.


Posted by Spam on Aug-13-2009 03:33:

quote:
Originally posted by DigiNut
I'm always amused at pedestrians and cyclists who think they have a god-given right to cause thousands of dollars in property damage because somebody pissed them off.

Just wait until the day one of them calls the police - or better yet, the day you find out that one of them keeps a baseball bat in the trunk, or a handgun in the glove box.


Knives under the driver's seat are fairly common.


Posted by malek on Aug-13-2009 03:58:

quote:
Originally posted by Cosmic Fur
Spacing is a minor issue that would range from street to street obviously. I'm talking about a distinct separation between where cars travel and where bikes travel.


what a waste, i'm actually really against that.

Drivers and cyclist should learn to co-exist on the same road, separating them only make drivers (and to a lesser extent cyclist) ignore the rest of the traffic, creating a hasard. Or worst pedestrians walking in them, or crossing them without looking on both sides (its not a street per se, so they don't have the same reflexes).

Whats worst, is that our city has built some reserved cycling lanes, and you still see cyclist still driving on the same street and not using them


Posted by Jayx1 on Aug-13-2009 04:00:

at least montreal understands one way streets and how to use them. Toronto uses one way streets to impede traffic.

Most major downtown roads should be one way and then MAYBE a bike lane would fit in


Posted by malek on Aug-13-2009 04:03:

quote:
Originally posted by basilisk
Devoting the metropolis to automobiles is not a sustainable option.


Look at this brain washed bozo, and why aren't cars sustainable??? It's been like that for a 100 years, and it will stay the same until we discover teleportation or something as ubiquitous as the car. Don't give me the crap about depleted oil, because cars will still run on other forms of energy, it's already happening.


Posted by malek on Aug-13-2009 04:08:

quote:
Originally posted by Jayx1
at least montreal understands one way streets and how to use them. Toronto uses one way streets to impede traffic.

Most major downtown roads should be one way and then MAYBE a bike lane would fit in


not really, a well thought cyclist lane would have been on the ride side of the road, not the left. Bikes are always supposed to run on the right side, even if it's a one way street, putting a lane on the left is inciting cyclists to behave wrongly elsehwere. And for this particular bike lane, most traffic turns left. So Traffic is slown down considerably because the bike lane has priority


Posted by Abercrombie on Aug-13-2009 04:10:

I used to be a bicycle courier in Montreal.

Anarchy cycling FTMFW.


Posted by Jayx1 on Aug-13-2009 04:17:

quote:
Originally posted by malek
Look at this brain washed bozo, and why aren't cars sustainable??? It's been like that for a 100 years, and it will stay the same until we discover teleportation or something as ubiquitous as the car. Don't give me the crap about depleted oil, because cars will still run on other forms of energy, it's already happening.


dont worry the electric car will be evil too. As will electric buses and whatever else they come out with.

I think some people wont be happy until we are back in the cave man days. Or even extinct.

I like the people who advocate that we should have fewer people on earth. I always reply with, "should we start with you then?" LOL


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