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Originally posted by NeoPhono Synthroid. Super-sexy, I know.

yeah, nothing sexier then a fat, depressed patient with thinning hair and fucked up menstral cycles.

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Originally posted by Dj Nacht I hope you don't prescribe that garbage as if it was candy like most doctors do. Instead of wasting money paying people to give away pills they could spend that money on actually helping them. Sorry but I hate prescription pills and everyone involved with them

doctors are merely puppets for the pharmaceutical industry. if doctors are pushing meds down your throat, they're getting a %, trust me lol

my mom's gyno kept trying to push her to take all these hormone prescriptions and stuff when my mom was going through menopause and my mom didn't want to take anything because she literally had NO menopause symptoms. no hot flashes, no real noticeable mood swings, her bloodwork was totall normal...i mean she was fine. exercising all the time, etc....

anyway it really pissed her off how every time she'd go for a visit he'd try to sell her on some new drug to take. she found a new doc after a while.


anyway, neo...what exactly do you specialize in? i mean i'm assuming you just got done with med school/internship?

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Originally posted by Dj Nacht I hope you don't prescribe that garbage as if it was candy like most doctors do. Instead of wasting money paying people to give away pills they could spend that money on actually helping them. Sorry but I hate prescription pills and everyone involved with them

I've said it before and I'll say it again: Western medicine is far too focused on treatment rather then prevention. But I mean, we all know it's because there's no money in prevention.

There's plenty of money in prevention -- money saved by not having to treat illnesses that were prevented -- but no one sees any of that immediately, so people don't care about it.

Well duh. But that's the kind of money people tend to prefer, now is it?

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Originally posted by jennypie I've said it before and I'll say it again: Western medicine is far too focused on treatment rather then prevention. But I mean, we all know it's because there's no money in prevention.

exactly.

our whole system with healthcare is really fucked up, dont even get me started.

i mean starting with the fact that every doctors office is filled with fat, bitchy, minimum wage employees who don't give a shit about you. it's all ass backwards. i thought you were supposed to go to the doctor to feel better, i usually leave there feeling annoyed and jipped lol

I remember a few years back I was all funked up so I went to the doctor for help. After 15 minutes of talking I walked out with two different bottles of anxiety pills and one box of depression pills. He told me I would be taking all this for about a year. Few weeks later I was just getting worse so I shot it all in the garbage. After that I got back to normal Who knows If I wouldn't have made that one decision to throw them out, I might be some zombie today or worse killed myself.

too bad you can prescribe k or blow. useless.

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Originally posted by Dj Nacht I remember a few years back I was all funked up so I went to the doctor for help. After 15 minutes of talking I walked out with two different bottles of anxiety pills and one box of depression pills. He told me I would be taking all this for about a year. Few weeks later I was just getting worse so I shot it all in the garbage. After that I got back to normal Who knows If I wouldn't have made that one decision to throw them out, I might be some zombie today or worse killed myself.

i had the same exact experience. was going through some "situational depression/anxiety" (basically i was just in a shitty relationship and a shitty time in my life) and i wasn't even in the office 10 minutes before he sent me off with 2 prescriptions. i tried them for a month and was like fuck this. they made me feel worse. i finally got my shit together and was back to normal several months later but i know exactly what you mean.

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Originally posted by Dj Nacht I hope you don't prescribe that garbage as if it was candy like most doctors do. Instead of wasting money paying people to give away pills they could spend that money on actually helping them. Sorry but I hate prescription pills and everyone involved with them

I love when people come in swinging like this. Why? Because in the US and the UK, people COMPLAIN when they DON'T get a prescription for pills. The people like you and I that don't want a pill unless it is necessary, are a lot fewer and farther between.

The best doctors around here seem to be naturopaths. They actually sit with you and collect a detailed health history and look at your WHOLE picture of health. Instead of treating SYMPTOMS, they come up with solutions to change your lifestyle or whatever it is that's causing the problem. So instead of prescribing pills...they'll tell you ways to change your diet, or teach you techniques of relaxation, or whatever. Stuff like that.

They will only prescribe medication as a last resort.

It did actually take me a while to get better but just the fact that I wasnt taking pills to be happy probably helped a lot. The funny part is that I never met this doctor before and in 15 minutes he told me that I will be taking all these pills for a year!

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Originally posted by jennypie The best doctors around here seem to be naturopaths. They actually sit with you and collect a detailed health history and look at your WHOLE picture of health. Instead of treating SYMPTOMS, they come up with solutions to change your lifestyle or whatever it is that's causing the problem. So instead of prescribing pills...they'll tell you ways to change your diet, or teach you techniques of relaxation, or whatever. Stuff like that. They will only prescribe medication as a last resort.

yea i'm definitely a fan of this method.

when i was with my ex, he definitely had a lot of good arguments that pretty much support what you are saying about how we all just want to treat symptoms rather than focus on prevention. chiropractors aren't very popular among "real doctors" over here because basically, they can't write prescriptions and they really focus more on diet, health, and exercise, etc... and like you said...where's the money in that?

Most people want pills because they're easier. Altering your diet or sleep habits or exercise habits or lifestyle is much more of a burden than just popping a few pills each day, and people can be expected to do the latter much more reliably than the former, so we have a pills-and-shots centered medical regime.

Well that's what I mean. But that's because that's how people have been taught.

of course. it's all about laziness and people being in denial about themselves and their personal issues. rather than go through some lengthy therapy that doesn't involve taking pills, they just go to their shrink and complain and get happy pills or sleeping pills or lose weight pills, etc...


and btw, i'm not talking about ALL forms of depression or whatever. like i've said before, i know there are many types of mental illnesses that must be treated with medication and i respect that.

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Originally posted by jennypie The best doctors around here seem to be naturopaths. They actually sit with you and collect a detailed health history and look at your WHOLE picture of health. Instead of treating SYMPTOMS, they come up with solutions to change your lifestyle or whatever it is that's causing the problem. So instead of prescribing pills...they'll tell you ways to change your diet, or teach you techniques of relaxation, or whatever. Stuff like that. They will only prescribe medication as a last resort.

Yeah we have those too. Also, here in the US, the "internists" (doctors of internal med) usually are similar. Not always, but usually.

canadian health care has death panels where they might prescribe you what you need or cyanide to keep the costs down.

Sarah Palin told me this on Facebook.

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Originally posted by Joss Weatherby canadian health care has death panels where they might prescribe you what you need or cyanide to keep the costs down. Sarah Palin told me this on Facebook.

That's true but as long as you're not Jewish, black, or old then it's nothing to worry about.

Different doctors have different styles, but I think it's a bit unfair to say that doctors are the whores of the pharm industry, especially newer doctors. How much medicine is prescribed is a balance between the doctor, the patient and the existing medical conditions.

As was said before, regardless of the ultimate decision, most patients want their doctor to do something to make them feel better, and often that comes in the form of a pill. I don't offer drugs to every patient I see, but if I feel that they aren't satisfied with what I think they should do, I have no problem writing a prescription for an otherwise over the counter drug. It makes them feel as if they got something that validates their coming to the doctor while being safe and generally more cost effective than if they did buy the drug normally.

I think the analogy would be if you had a problem with your car's suspension that gave you a horrible ride for a week. You decide to take the time off of work to go see your mechanic. How would you feel if you paid him to simply tell you that you need to ride in your bumpy car a bit longer and it'll be fine? Some might be fine with that, others would not...it's the same with patients seeing a doctor.

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Originally posted by NeoPhono Different doctors have different styles, but I think it's a bit unfair to say that doctors are the whores of the pharm industry, especially newer doctors. How much medicine is prescribed is a balance between the doctor, the patient and the existing medical conditions. As was said before, regardless of the ultimate decision, most patients want their doctor to do something to make them feel better, and often that comes in the form of a pill. I don't offer drugs to every patient I see, but if I feel that they aren't satisfied with what I think they should do, I have no problem writing a prescription for an otherwise over the counter drug. It makes them feel as if they got something that validates their coming to the doctor while being safe and generally more cost effective than if they did buy the drug normally. I think the analogy would be if you had a problem with your car's suspension that gave you a horrible ride for a week. You decide to take the time off of work to go see your mechanic. How would you feel if you paid him to simply tell you that you need to ride in your bumpy car a bit longer and it'll be fine? Some might be fine with that, others would not...it's the same with patients seeing a doctor.

i'm just a little bitter after working in the personal injury law field where all of those orthos, surgeons and radiologists are pretty much whores for the industry. not to mention my ex is a chiropractor so he obviously had a lot of doctor friends as well who we hung out with on a regular basis (real doctors, not just other chiros) and they all just became doctors because it runs in the family and because of the status of it all.

at this point, the only doctors i have respect for are the ones working in ERs saving lives or the ones going to 3rd world countries working for free lol

i hope you will be one who will make a difference in the lives of your patients

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Originally posted by Slylee at this point, the only doctors i have respect for are the ones working in ERs saving lives or the ones going to 3rd world countries working for free lol i hope you will be one who will make a difference in the lives of your patients

Thats a little sad, because at the rate things are going we will have third world medical care sooner than later.

I know thats a bit of an exaggeration, but its painfully obvious things are getting worse here.

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Originally posted by NeoPhono As was said before, regardless of the ultimate decision, most patients want their doctor to do something to make them feel better, and often that comes in the form of a pill. I don't offer drugs to every patient I see, but if I feel that they aren't satisfied with what I think they should do, I have no problem writing a prescription for an otherwise over the counter drug. It makes them feel as if they got something that validates their coming to the doctor while being safe and generally more cost effective than if they did buy the drug normally.

Most people that come to you don't even understand whats going on, they are weak and will believe anything. If I was prescribing pills to patients I would make it extremely clear to them that pills should be last resort. Thats definately not the case the way things are running now.

Man, doctors for old people must make serious bank then.

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Originally posted by Rose Man, doctors for old people must make serious bank then.

Yup, after 10 years you are promoted to Senior Citizen doctor. All you do is leave a buffet of pills in your office and you tell them which colour fixes that problem.

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