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Posted by SteelWolf on Aug-24-2009 20:33:

I still occasionally play vinyl (see my newest mix Classic Progressive Mix) but about 3 years ago I switched to using Torq DVS and Ableton Live. When I buy vinyl now, its either used or classic vinyl.


Posted by Nemesis44 on Aug-24-2009 22:42:

Once in a while I will drop some vinyl but for me it's all CDs. Just makes more sense both in terms of finances and the carrying of gear around.

Cheers
Nem


Posted by boris_the_bear on Sep-03-2009 13:07:

quote:
Originally posted by lenazi
considering i own a few thousand records bla bla bla...

considering you're an asshole..
p.s. have you given a thought that maybe "gay bro" was more of a rhetorical phrase rather than an insult, you ..you


Posted by itsamemario on Sep-04-2009 05:51:

I've bought one vinyl the last 4 or 5 years and that was Radioslave - Grindhouse


Posted by Stormbringer on Sep-04-2009 21:30:

Yes, I still buy and play vinyl. But I will also buy and play an occasional single CD, too. Don't plan on ever buying any downloads.


Posted by jcastro22 on Nov-16-2009 00:36:

Dude, I love vinyl.. I love the sound, the feel, everything about it.. its depressing that its pretty much gone.. however, I understand that things must change and evolve.. that is a part of life..

anywho..if anyone knows of a decent stateside vinyl store, please let me know.. i'd love to pick up some new vinyl..

though, I'll never stop loving trance due to a format change.. es mi corazon


Posted by PivotTechno on Nov-16-2009 13:41:

quote:
Originally posted by jcastro22
anywho..if anyone knows of a decent stateside vinyl store, please let me know.. i'd love to pick up some new vinyl..


http://www.discogs.com/

I only play wax. Only care about good music, not needing to have the latest and greatest, and there's been so much good electronic music released in the past 40 years... If there's something new that I really dig, I'll shell out for it, but on average, I'm paying around $3-$4 for older 12"s (most with 2 or 3 really good cuts) that most retailers sell for anywhere from double to 10x that amount. It's all about knowing where to look/bulk purchases/haggling.

If I end up touring again at some point, I may end up burning a lot of it to CD for the sake of convenience, but that isn't an issue at the moment - too busy with homefront projects.

Viva la black crack!


Posted by MSZ on Nov-16-2009 14:54:

vinyl is long gone for me, im just a cheap guy, perhaps at a different situation i could have stayed with it. however, i do love pitch bend/sliding a lot more on digital tables compared to technics, im just so quick.


Posted by physe on Nov-16-2009 17:44:

quote:
Originally posted by Mr.Mystery
I mostly buy vinyl, actually. Sometimes CD's, but if I can I'll get the vinyl version.

I have never bought a single digital file in my life and I don't plan on doing so any time soon either.


My thoughts exactly.


Posted by knowhope on Nov-16-2009 20:14:

Vinyl purist present.

I was firstly a digital DJ, then went with vinyl. It's just different. That's all. No hating.


Posted by Dj Nacht on Nov-16-2009 22:48:

Used to own 2 1200's in 2003 and sold them a year or two later. 2007 I bought 2 CDJ 800's and I just recently sold them to buy another pair of 1200's. The main reason was because I found a guy selling 600+ techno vinyls from early 90's to early 2000 for 200$. Now I have a mountain of vinyl and will be modding the technics a bit so they can be used for audiophile use. Gonna be buying mostly used vinyl from discogs once my setup is ready. Old skool techno only.


Posted by PivotTechno on Nov-16-2009 23:45:

quote:
Originally posted by Dj Nacht
Gonna be buying mostly used vinyl from discogs once my setup is ready. Old skool techno only.


*bumps fists*

That's mainly my territory (both techno and discogs) as well, along with classic Chicago House, be it acid, funky, hard, ghetto or otherwise, and classic Electro and Freestyle.


Posted by DJ RANN on Nov-17-2009 02:21:

I technically lied about my vote (1, yes I buy vinyl) just becuase given the chance I would prefer to buy vinyl over any other medium, even at the extra cost.

I don't buy vinyl anymore simply because I cannot find a record store in LA that sells EDM Vinyl.

If there was an EDM record store in LA I would be there at least once a week, regardless of distance and cost.


Posted by TWD on Nov-17-2009 21:58:

I buy vinyl, but not to DJ with. I use Traktor for that. We have two record stores with an extensive EDM library. I'll go by every few months. If I see anything I recognize I'll get it.

I honestly only do it just because having vinyl brings some sort of sentimental value to me. Plus I really like the owners of the record stores.


Posted by spdandpwr on Nov-18-2009 23:31:

I used to buy vinyll, til I got serato in 2007 and realized the glory of playing with vinyl and not having to worry about sound quality wearing out with each play (you know I would purposely not play certain tracks to ensure that they didn't prematurely wear )


Posted by Lews on Nov-22-2009 12:14:

I'm currently building up a collection. I have a lot more vinyl than CDs, but sadly a huge collection of digital files. Slowly replacing all the digitally bought stuff with the physical copies. I'm a collector at heart and vinyl is just great. Plus the fact that it sounds so much better... Would love to mix with vinyl, going to be looking at buying some Technics soon I don't quite think my personal listening turntables are up to it haha


Posted by chewy dragee on Nov-23-2009 10:17:

I buy lots of digital, but if I get something I really like I get it on vinyl too. I love vinyl... and vinyl loves me.


Posted by Schadenfreude on Nov-23-2009 15:42:

yes. there is just too much great stuff that is exclusive to vinyl, and with a dvs you can have the best of both worlds.


Posted by skip on Nov-23-2009 15:43:

I only buy vinyl if I can't get the tune/tunes in any other format as vinyl is such a fucking hassle with all the pops and clicks and surface noise etc.

But I do DJ with TTs and Traktor Scratch. But even then when I buy a vinyl I put my better cart on one of my techs, record the vinyl to my computer, edit all the pops and clicks out and use the saved file for DJing.

I kinda like vinyl and I kinda hate it at the same time (it's pretty cool, but such a fucking hassle and sound quality isn't anything special with normal gear and dust and all going around).


Posted by Schadenfreude on Nov-23-2009 15:47:

the pops and crackles can add a little "je ne sais quoi" to the track for me, not to mention that a fuller lower end cancels that.


Posted by DJ RANN on Nov-23-2009 16:18:

pops and clicks should really not be an issue if you keep your records clean and static free.

Also, many people in this thread keep going on about the records wearing out ? If you calibrate your needle and tonearm correctly then there's very little wear on a record - I've got tracks I've had since the mid 90's and caned them DJ'ing and they still sound great.

Frankly, over the same period, I've lost more music through drive failure than I have through damaged vinyl. Go figure.


Posted by Schadenfreude on Nov-23-2009 17:51:

that is why you back up everything to dvd and cd.

I just got my laptop stolen...the cool thing is that beatport will allow my to re download everything recently bought that i lost free of charge. Yet another advantage to paying for your tracks

the most positive note is that my insurance will allow me to go quad core

I like to think that i keep my records in immaculate condition and that my decks are set up perfectly, that being said over an extended period of time it is inevitable to get some slight degradation in quality.

What pisses me off more is when you buy records brand new that sound like shit. A neat little trick is to play the record a few times with a coin used as a weight to "loosen" the grooves a bit.


Posted by ReclusNdangrmnt on Nov-23-2009 19:38:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ RANN
I technically lied about my vote (1, yes I buy vinyl) just becuase given the chance I would prefer to buy vinyl over any other medium, even at the extra cost.

I don't buy vinyl anymore simply because I cannot find a record store in LA that sells EDM Vinyl.

If there was an EDM record store in LA I would be there at least once a week, regardless of distance and cost.


You haven't heard of Amoeba Music in West Hollywood?


Posted by chewy dragee on Nov-24-2009 06:40:

quote:
Originally posted by Schadenfreude
that is why you back up everything to dvd and cd.

I just got my laptop stolen...the cool thing is that beatport will allow my to re download everything recently bought that i lost free of charge. Yet another advantage to paying for your tracks

the most positive note is that my insurance will allow me to go quad core

I like to think that i keep my records in immaculate condition and that my decks are set up perfectly, that being said over an extended period of time it is inevitable to get some slight degradation in quality.

What pisses me off more is when you buy records brand new that sound like shit. A neat little trick is to play the record a few times with a coin used as a weight to "loosen" the grooves a bit.


I have bought a hell of a lot more bad sounding digital tracks than I have ever bought on vinyl.

I actually cannot believe the quality of some of the digital tracks being sold out there. Some tracks are completely unplayable.


Posted by Schadenfreude on Nov-24-2009 16:24:

i completely agree.

there are tons of labels on vinyl that have weird records that need the technique (coin on the tonearm) a few times before they sound alright.

off the top of my head NRK (nick holder's label) and Underground Quality (Jus Ed's ) come to mind. I'll still order their records, but a few times i have had to exchange them.

Ninja Tune and Mojuba have also had a few send backs from me.

you also have to remember that if you are buying mp3's they really can rarely reproduce the low ends properly.


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