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Posted by Demoted on Aug-24-2009 15:52:

quote:
Originally posted by Ania_xox
I have the respect to keep my voice down when out with my sister or mother or cousins or whatever member of my family with whom I speak Polish.


Loud people are annoying in general. Loud people yelling in canto, arabic, farsi, romanian, lalalala, etc. are doubly annoying.


I want you to speak Polish to me loudly the next time we phonesex.


Posted by SMC on Aug-24-2009 16:17:

Where did she get the crazy idea the country and the language are her's?


Posted by Paradox Lost on Aug-24-2009 21:31:

quote:
Originally posted by Ania_xox
I agree somewhat.

It is fucking rude and annoying when foreigners speak loudly amongst eachother in public - especially in small places indoors, in close proximity to eachother.


But what makes you think her grievances were with the volume of their discussion, rather than her just resenting them speaking a language other than English?


Posted by MrJiveBoJingles on Aug-24-2009 21:35:

quote:
Originally posted by Paradox Lost
But what makes you think her grievances were with the volume of their discussion, rather than the idea that she just resented them speaking a language other than English?

LOL, really. Did she even say a word about how loudly they were speaking? Not to mention she speaks gibberish as a parody of Arabic...


Posted by Renzo on Aug-24-2009 21:38:



What s dumb skank. She needs a good punch to the face.


Posted by Clovis on Aug-24-2009 21:38:

I would have told that bitch to FUCK. OFF.


Posted by montana on Aug-24-2009 21:40:

that is one pissfunny video.


Posted by Paradox Lost on Aug-24-2009 21:49:

quote:
Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
LOL, really. Did she even say a word about how loudly they were speaking? Not to mention she speaks gibberish as a parody of Arabic...


I think it's also worth noting that she was yelling far too loud for me to get a sense as to how loud the other guys were.

Lousy loud people.


Posted by Lira on Aug-24-2009 23:04:

quote:
Originally posted by SMC
Where did she get the crazy idea the country and the language are her's?

People often have this kind of delusion. Sometimes they even try to enforce their aesthetic preferences on others, saying that it's wrong to shamelessly split infinitives, for example, because that didn't happen in a dead language no one cares about.

It makes me wonder. Would grammar nazis in the US accept Spanish more readily if they realised that the gracious Latin language to which they look up is the primary source of the languages (with few exceptions) spoken in the South of the Rio Grande? If not, there's a funny contradiction there


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Aug-24-2009 23:10:

quote:
Originally posted by Ania_xox
I agree somewhat.

It is fucking rude and annoying when foreigners speak loudly amongst eachother in public - especially in small places indoors, in close proximity to eachother.


what's this kind of ignorant bullshit? i'll speak whatever damned language i choose regardless of where i am or who is around.

idiot.


Posted by astroboy on Aug-24-2009 23:22:

If she had used her English etiquette she would not have been eavesdropping and wouldn't know whether they were speaking English or not.


Posted by boris_the_bear on Aug-25-2009 04:46:

quote:
Originally posted by Clovis
I would have told that bitch to FUCK. OFF.

not to be rude or anything, but do you ever write more than 1 short sentence?


Posted by Sunsnail on Aug-25-2009 04:56:

quote:
Originally posted by Lira
to shamelessly split infinitives,


Posted by astroboy on Aug-25-2009 05:28:

quote:
Originally posted by Sunsnail


haha nicely spotted! Lira, you cunning linguist, was that intentional?


Posted by Ania_xox on Aug-25-2009 08:12:

quote:
Originally posted by Paradox Lost
But what makes you think her grievances were with the volume of their discussion, rather than her just resenting them speaking a language other than English?


Good point. The only reason I would understand her frustrations would have been if the men were being loud and boisterous.

The idea of speaking a language other than that of the majority is not even the issue here, imo. I'm sure she wouldn't have flipped out if it was an Arabic couple just sitting together and speaking to eachother, or a Swedish mother speaking to her child. Then again, who knows - she uses the term "dickwank"



My parents always taught us to keep our voices down when speaking Polish in public as a courtesy to those around us
a) because they don't have the ability to understand
b) because I know for a fact that Polish sounds like annoying gibberish to the foreign ear

The reasoning for A is something along the lines of this:
If something is private and you don't want others to understand, you can say it quietly or use another language. If it's not meant for others to hear, then you don't have to bellow it - english or not.


I haven't even considered this from the point of view of someone using their mother tongue because their English isn't strong enough. That being the case - ya, this woman is a cunting hag.

But my guess is still that those guys were being loud and annoying.


Posted by Ania_xox on Aug-25-2009 08:17:

quote:
Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
what's this kind of ignorant bullshit? i'll speak whatever damned language i choose regardless of where i am or who is around.

idiot.



jak fajnie
w takim razie, od dzis bedziemy tak pisac ze soba
bardzo sie ciesze ze masz taka ochote i ze sie zgadzasz ze nie ma sprawy jezeli nie rozumiesz nic z tego czego sie dzieje dokola ciebie


Posted by inazuma on Aug-25-2009 11:44:

quote:
Originally posted by bananas
On the other hand, when we have russians and polaks living here in Lithuania, especially the capital Vilnius, for decades and they still can't speak Lithuanian, and oftenly are instulted if you don't speak russian with them. Then I'm like what the fuck.
It's just I don't want them to 'talk my language' I just want them to get back to their mother russia, there's plenty of it for everyone.


lol that sounds like English-speaking expats and whatnot over here...
some live here for 10+ years and are even married and have kids and can't speak more than a few basic words of Japanese, and will constantly bitch about stuff like "job discrimination" when they can't find a job other than English teaching or headhunting or something. Of course, they can only complain in English since their Japanese is too rudimentary, so nobody except for fellow bitchy expats listens to them anyway.


Posted by Kaidreas on Aug-25-2009 12:45:

mmmmz my point on this topic is... if you started to live in another country and you are planning on staying there, then you simply learn the language. but I understand that people who are on a holiday can�t speak that language. anyways most (flemish side) belgian people, when they travel they will try to speak the language of the country they are in. french in france, german in germany, english in england and so on. or they would take a small dictionary with them (and try to speak the language).
but for example when I�m getting a durum or a kebab in belgium, i simply hate it when the employees talk arabic or whatever when I or other people are in their restaurant. They could just be laughing with you, without you even knowing it.


Posted by Ian on Aug-25-2009 13:10:

quote:
Originally posted by inazuma
lol that sounds like English-speaking expats and whatnot over here...
some live here for 10+ years and are even married and have kids and can't speak more than a few basic words of Japanese, and will constantly bitch about stuff like "job discrimination" when they can't find a job other than English teaching or headhunting or something. Of course, they can only complain in English since their Japanese is too rudimentary, so nobody except for fellow bitchy expats listens to them anyway.


it happens worldwide to be honest. You get lots of people from asian countries, chinese, pakistani, arabs etc who don't try to speak a word of the language here, like you get the english or whatever there. I think it's polite to actually try to speak some of the language of whatever place you're in and usually the locals appreciate effort if not accuracy.

However if you're planning to live in another country, you should at least make an effort to integrate or else

a) you're cheating yourself of opportunities
b) you're as bad as the people you moan about here.


Posted by Lira on Aug-25-2009 13:41:

quote:
Originally posted by astroboy
haha nicely spotted! Lira, you cunning linguist, was that intentional?

I thought that was obvious in that context, but yeah, that was intentional... and shameless

It's about time English speakers worldwide felt free to blithely split their infinitives! And the passive voice must be rescued from the dirty hands of ignorant editors as well!!

*shakes fist*


Posted by lenazi on Aug-25-2009 13:42:

no one cares here as people tend to be at least bilingual and not toothless chav breeders.


Posted by astroboy on Aug-25-2009 14:33:

I think people are mixing issues here. If you permanently move to a country sure you should learn the language, but if you're having a private conversation around strangers who have no business listening to you anyway, you should feel free to speak whatever bloody language you want. And unless you were being loud or otherwise antisocial there is no explanation for someone else being pissed off at you other than xenophobia.


Posted by astroboy on Aug-25-2009 14:43:

quote:
Originally posted by Lira
I thought that was obvious in that context, but yeah, that was intentional... and shameless

It's about time English speakers worldwide felt free to blithely split their infinitives! And the passive voice must be rescued from the dirty hands of ignorant editors as well!!

*shakes fist*


Do you have any pet grammar peeves? I have a shitload even though my grammar is far from perfect. For example you failing to use the possessive form of the pronoun preceding a gerund would annoy me.


Posted by Lira on Aug-25-2009 15:16:

quote:
Originally posted by astroboy
Do you have any pet grammar peeves? I have a shitload even though my grammar is far from perfect. For example you failing to use the possessive form of the pronoun preceding a gerund would annoy me.

I do, actually: I hate when people try to change the language because of the whimsical caprices of others. They're what I call zombie rules.

For example, it's really common to end sentences with prepositions in English. Yet, for no good reason, some people go great lengths to avoid doing that, and the result is often awful. Why? It's been okay to do that for ages! I don't understand what the problem is with split infinitives, singular they, and passives either.

In Portuguese, I really hate it when grammar claim it's wrong to say "Me give!" (for "Give me!") and "I saw she" (for "I saw her") even though that's the way we've been speaking for more than a century. Therefore, whenever I hear someone say "her" or "him" in Portuguese (or when they insist to put the pronoun after the verb), it really makes me cringe.


Posted by MrJiveBoJingles on Aug-25-2009 16:36:

quote:
Originally posted by Ania_xox
But my guess is still that those guys were being loud and annoying.

So the proper response is to be even louder and far more annoying? LOL.

quote:
jak fajnie
w takim razie, od dzis bedziemy tak pisac ze soba
bardzo sie ciesze ze masz taka ochote i ze sie zgadzasz ze nie ma sprawy jezeli nie rozumiesz nic z tego czego sie dzieje dokola ciebie

Nice try, but this is less rude than it is simply idiotic. You might have a point if the guys were speaking Arabic to her and expecting her to understand it, but that wasn't the situation as far as I know.


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