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Originally posted by woscar Have any of you defending the Cuban system actually been to Cuba?

Just to be clear, I'm not defending it, I'm just saying that from all accounts I've heard, it's nowhere near North Korea. And you actually hear of people getting out.

viva cuba

cuba is awesome!
best place to vacation.

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Originally posted by gehzumteufel So the fact that the government covers going to the doctor means that basic necessities are met? Seriously?

i would say yes, most definitely. cubans also have far higher literacy levels than those in the US. another need i would argue is being met.

cuba aint marxist utopia or anything but its sure as fuck better than north korea.

When the fuck did I ever say Cuba is worse than NK?

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Originally posted by gehzumteufel When the fuck did I ever say Cuba is worse than NK?

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Originally posted by gehzumteufel Cuba is worse than NK

I would guess that Cuba is better and the people aren't as brainwashed as the NK's... just based on some of the documentaries I've watched. I don't know anyone from NK, but one of my best friend's wife is from Cuba- her family went through Honduras and got to the U.S. when she was 14. They live in Miami now (shocker).... but shit, the stories her and her family tell about the deplorable conditions there and the abject hopelessness are fucking sad.

lol I see what you did there.

I was there last month, had a great time, and would go back in a flash. I've seen poverty, and I've seen riches. The government may suck, but the people are great, and a proud people. They know they can do better, they just can't openly talk about it. It's beautiful and historic there, so Cuba by far if compared to N.Korea

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Originally posted by gehzumteufel When the fuck did I ever say Cuba is worse than NK?

hence the paragraph between my reply to you and my reply to the thread question

I would love to visit Cuba. I have no interest in visiting NK.

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Originally posted by jonSun I would love to visit Cuba. I have no interest in visiting NK.

are you going to keep that doctored santa hat on your avatar all the way through till this year's christmas?

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN hence the paragraph between my reply to you and my reply to the thread question

lol fucking hell. I meant NK is way worse than Cuba. My bad.

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Originally posted by The17sss are you going to keep that doctored santa hat on your avatar all the way through till this year's christmas?

im black, so Santa never made it to my place yet.

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Originally posted by The17sss are you going to keep that doctored santa hat on your avatar all the way through till this year's christmas?

it's a special gift from a special person

Cuba and North Korea have overcome class struggle to form societies devoid of unemployment, political infighting, and social injustice by the capitalist class. All countries should look to them as an example of what is possible!

Cuba is certainly a developing country and as such most people live below what we in the developed world would consider the poverty line. That said many of my friends have been there on holiday and didn't find the place depressing or tragic etc.. by all accounts they thought it was a pretty chill place.

From what I know of NK it is extremely impoverished (to the point of people dying of hunger in rural regions) and the regime there is at least as bad as what my grandparents experienced under Stalin...

If I had to choose to live in one of those places I'd choose Cuba.. no brainer.


.. also I love their cigars. Cohiba Siglo VI ftw!

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Originally posted by astroboy also I love their cigars. Cohiba Siglo VI ftw!

Too strong for my taste... and a little hard to draw. Although most of the cigar smoking business executives I've met seem to choose this as their "go to" smoke.

Try one of these for a nice change man... a little softer and sweeter, but when you light it you know it's a Cuban

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Originally posted by The17sss Too strong for my taste... and a little hard to draw. Although most of the cigar smoking business executives I've met seem to choose this as their "go to" smoke.

I've been enjoying the Partagas serie P No 4 lately too. tho no one else seems to like it very much

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Try one of these for a nice change man... a little softer and sweeter, but when you light it you know it's a Cuban

I'll give it a go but don't recognise the label.. I'm not the most knowledgeable when it comes to cigars. What is it?

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Originally posted by astroboy I've been enjoying the Partagas serie P No 4 lately too. tho no one else seems to like it very much I'll give it a go but don't recognise the label.. I'm not the most knowledgeable when it comes to cigars. What is it?

Oops.. sorry it's the Hoyo de Monterrey double corona.

I've heard good things about the Partagas No 4 and almost ordered some from my last batch... Maybe I'll get some next time. I have 3 Partagas Lusitanias but haven't tried one yet; have you smoked that one before? I got a few Siglo V's and Trinidad Robustos (which I also haven't tried), 2 Montecristo #2's, and 1 Romeo y Julieta short churchill.... I actually don't smoke that often and use them as "business currency"; it seems to make sealing the deal a little easier, especially if you break them out on the golf course. lol

NORTH KOREA



CUBAN GIRLS>>>>>>>>>>>>>

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Originally posted by The17sss Oops.. sorry it's the Hoyo de Monterrey double corona.

Cheers I'll check it out next time!

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I've heard good things about the Partagas No 4 and almost ordered some from my last batch... Maybe I'll get some next time. I have 3 Partagas Lusitanias but haven't tried one yet; have you smoked that one before? I got a few Siglo V's and Trinidad Robustos (which I also haven't tried), 2 Montecristo #2's, and 1 Romeo y Julieta short churchill.... I actually don't smoke that often and use them as "business currency"; it seems to make sealing the deal a little easier, especially if you break them out on the golf course. lol

Oops I actually meant the partagas #2..



Nice collection though.. I don't actually own humidor. I only smoke when I'm at a particular bar that has a good cigar collection and other people around are smoking so I don't look like a wanker :P

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Originally posted by astroboy Nice collection though.. I don't actually own humidor. I only smoke when I'm at a particular bar that has a good cigar collection and other people around are smoking so I don't look like a wanker :P[/color]

I don't have the luxury of access that you guys have since I'm in the States... so I gotta get pretty crafty to obtain them. I hear you though about not smoking them around other people; I'll smoke mine on my back deck or in a cigar friendly place while others are doing it too. The only thing I don't like is how afterwards, it feels like a cat shit in my mouth. I can't wait to pound a Gatorade and brush my teeth when I get home.

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Originally posted by Krypton Cuba and North Korea have overcome class struggle to form societies devoid of unemployment, political infighting, and social injustice by the capitalist class. All countries should look to them as an example of what is possible!

exactly.

you gringos are so full of yourself

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Originally posted by Krypton Cuba and North Korea have overcome class struggle to form societies devoid of unemployment, political infighting, and social injustice by the capitalist class. All countries should look to them as an example of what is possible!

Sounds good man... maybe you're entrepreneurial spirit would flourish better over there? What kind of society is North Korea that anyone should be envious of? And of course there's no political infighting- if you challenge Castro's regime you're as good as dead. You should really talk to my friend from Cuba and re-think what you just said.

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