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Originally posted by Abercrombie This thread is worthless without pics

I wouldn't say "phasing out" and "banning" are the same thing Jay

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Originally posted by chinamon the kilt was the best part about high school.

+ 10000000000000000000000000000

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Originally posted by Skipper I wouldn't say "phasing out" and "banning" are the same thing Jay

When you are not allowed to do something anymore its a ban.

"phasing out" just means its not a complete province wide ban... yet. Just like they "phased out" smoking until the province banned it outright.

Semantics my dear.

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Originally posted by Jayx1 this is public school we are talking about. Private schools have always had weird rules depending on the school. But when its private its your choice to be there (well parents but still) My point is everything you can think of is being banned and im sick of it.

wrong. this is Catholic school, not a public school. and it IS your choice to be there, because there will be a non-denomination public school serving that area.

http://www.dpcdsb.org/CEC/About+Us/

The Catholic school boards have long been able to enforce their own policies with regard to dress codes, code of conduct, religious ciriculum requierments, etc. *separately* from public school boards.

If this school, with the support of the board, sees fit to change its dress code, they can do so...and wtf do you care? send your kid to the local public school that doesn't have a uniform or dress code.

this is a huge FAIL on your part for making this part of your constant whining about "bans" when this has nothing to do with gov't or public policy.

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Originally posted by Sentinal There you go AJ, just for you pal!

lolololololololololol

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Originally posted by MarkT wrong. this is Catholic school, not a public school. and it IS your choice to be there, because there will be a non-denomination public school serving that area. http://www.dpcdsb.org/CEC/About+Us/ The Catholic school boards have long been able to enforce their own policies with regard to dress codes, code of conduct, religious ciriculum requierments, etc. *separately* from public school boards. If this school, with the support of the board, sees fit to change its dress code, wtf do you care? this is a huge FAIL on your part for making this part of your constant whining about "bans" when this has nothing to do with gov't or public policy.

1) Publicly funded schooling
2) that was a side point, the main point is that everyone likes to ban everything at the drop of a hat. Im sick of it

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Originally posted by Jayx1 1) Publicly funded schooling 2) that was a side point, the main point is that everyone likes to ban everything at the drop of a hat. Im sick of it

FAIL.

Catholic schools have always enjoyed the same exemptions and there IS a public school serving every area, so no one is forced to go there.

this is nothing new and each school, with the support of the board, has always been able to determine its dress code.

some schools allowed for walking shorts in lieu of pants, most do not. some allowed for sweaters or vests in lieu of blazers, some do not. all enforce a specific colours.

this is your most pathetic whining yet...

So I just scrolled through 3 pages of a kilt thread and all I got to see was a couple nutsacks and a gay picture of Iain. Lame

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Originally posted by MarkT FAIL. Catholic schools have always enjoyed the same exemptions and there IS a public school serving every area, so no one is forced to go there. this is nothing new and each school, with the support of the board, has always been able to determine its dress code. some schools allowed for walking shorts in lieu of pants, most do not. some allowed for sweaters or vests in lieu of blazers, some do not. all enforce a specific colours. this is your most pathetic whining yet...

I dont diasgree. They do have the right to change the dress code. Im saying that i disagree with the decision and that parents obviously havnt been consulted (the taxpayers). A lot of others on here seem to agree. Imagine they banned buttless man chaps on Church? LOL

So PASS!

FAIL seems to be the cool buzzword on trance addict these days eh?

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Originally posted by nifty narcotix So I just scrolled through 3 pages of a kilt thread and all I got to see was a couple nutsacks and a gay picture of Iain. Lame

hahaha i agree.

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Originally posted by FunkyCrew as much as I bitched back in the day, uniform has made my life much easier back in school - no painful outfit decisions on daily basis probably saved a fortune on clothes shopping too

I don't agree with that at all. Having attended catholic and public high schools in Mississauga, I found that people (girls especially) put more of an effort on their clothing in Catholic school. Because the uniforms were the same, they made sure to go crazy with accessories, or buying clothing that just barely fit the criteria, but made them look as unique as possible. Had to have the right golf shirt, Tommy, right shoes, new bags...etc

At public school most people dressed for comfort. Sure they made sure they dressed well, but it wasn't a fashion show.

Banning a kilt in Catholic schools, is like banning jeans. Its just the dress code, and they have already added certain articles of clothing, why not this? No different.

IMO there was a definite 'issue' with girls constantly hiking up their skirts, and it was hard for the teachers to control. Now I did go to a school, where students were caught running a prostitution ring out of the washrooms, so I can see how hard it would be to control.

God I loved that school. *tear*


DOWN WITH HOMEWORK, UP WITH MINI SKIRTS!

Id say the problem is more or less the teachers not doing their jobs. Banning is a convenient way to do less work. Its the easy way out.


How do we teach discipline if we take away opportunities to demonstrate discipline? Banning the kilt for example takes away the kilt issue but now there will never be the "crime and punishment" example set for kids. So as a result when they are set loose on society there is one more lesson they didnt get. Expect the kilt banned schools to produce the 20 somethings with the most sluttiest outfits u can imagine

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Originally posted by Orko

yeah sure they dress for comfort - 90% of highschool students here look like bums on a Sunday, I remember how shocked I was when I just moved here and encountered them. Track suit pants all year around and switching between crocs and Uggs depending on a season, gosh! You don't go to school/university/college to be comfortable, get over it!

Uniforms made us look WAY more presentable and professional. The only things we could use to stand out were shoes, watches and stationary, and that was enough. Seriously, it's not a freaking fashion show!

Jeezus, they're not banning them altogether, just removing them from their uniforms.

I'll bet some girls will wear them on civvies day.

The image has been oversexualized for too long. That's one social trend they were not going to reverse.

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Originally posted by Xavier Moriarty NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

I don't really see what the big deal is. One Catholic school decided that they don't want the uniform to include kilts anymore. You're acting like this was some nationwide ban by the government.

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Originally posted by Jayx1 I dont diasgree. They do have the right to change the dress code. Im saying that i disagree with the decision and that parents obviously havnt been consulted (the taxpayers). A lot of others on here seem to agree. Imagine they banned buttless man chaps on Church? LOL So PASS! FAIL seems to be the cool buzzword on trance addict these days eh?

lol - decisions get made in public schools every day that don't involve tax payer input. This is a uniform and has nothing to do with the whole purpose of the school itself - to educate.

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Originally posted by Orko Banning a kilt in Catholic schools, is like banning jeans. Its just the dress code, and they have already added certain articles of clothing, why not this? No different. IMO there was a definite 'issue' with girls constantly hiking up their skirts, and it was hard for the teachers to control. Now I did go to a school, where students were caught running a prostitution ring out of the washrooms, so I can see how hard it would be to control. God I loved that school. *tear* DOWN WITH HOMEWORK, UP WITH MINI SKIRTS!

I'm guessing you went to St. Hoes?

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Originally posted by nifty narcotix So I just scrolled through 3 pages of a kilt thread and all I got to see was a couple nutsacks and a gay picture of Iain. Lame

Ouch

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Originally posted by Jayx1 I dont diasgree. They do have the right to change the dress code. Im saying that i disagree with the decision and that parents obviously havnt been consulted (the taxpayers). A lot of others on here seem to agree. Imagine they banned buttless man chaps on Church? LOL So PASS! FAIL seems to be the cool buzzword on trance addict these days eh?

FAIL is a popular buzzword because so many fucking stupid threads like this are started.

personally, I think it's silly that it came to this, but I respect that the authority for this decision ought to reside with the administration, not with the parents. parents don't set school policies or determine the curriculum, so why should they determine the dress code?

the real problem here (and you backtrack, as usual) is that your wording and tone implies that your drawing a parallel between this issue and the 'bans' that arguably infringe upon the rights and/or freedoms enjoyed by the public...bans which are taken away by a gov't that arguably ought not have the authority to do so or which has failed to sufficiently demonstrate the need for the 'ban'. i.e. in the absence of authority to enact the ban or the absence of good reason to impose the ban, freedom ought to prevail.

well, none of that is the case here.

there's a dress code. enough students consistently failed to adhere to it, that the administrations of these schools saw fit to amend it. period.

I actually believe that it would be counter-productive for parents to complain. doesn't that just tell teens that it's ok to disobey rules? to not have respect for authority?

maybe that's my naive idealism that parents see this trivial matter as a lesson when in reality most of them could probably care less about the change...but either way, I would expect little fuss.

personally, I'd be much happier seeing parents shrug and say "oh well, enough of you fucked up that your schools decided that you all get to wear pants now" vs taking this up as a some kind of 'cause'.

and yes, I'm sure not ALL girls fucked up and ALL are 'suffering' as a result, but that's what happens in real life too and the school should be prepping these kids for the real world.

non-issue.

Everything is a non issue. The collective mindset is the issue. Ban ban ban. Thats our culture now. It's quite sad

if you're upset that you won't see as many hot chicks in short kilts, just say so.

I'd sympathize and agree that it is a travesty to deprive people of their schoolgirl eye candy, lol.

I think we've seen enough disempowerment of our teachers and administrations. time to let them do their job, which includes setting school policies. not everything warrants "taxpayer consultation".

I suppose you have a better solution though...or just the usual complaining?

I ask only because I'm *guessing* that the experienced administrations of 18 high schools probably put a fair bit more thought into their position than you have into yours.

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