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beacuse the sound isnt the same we dont have analog distortion!

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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles And he uses Cubase VST 5, released back in 2000.

I still miss Cubase 5...

Reminds me of a post from MD:

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Originally posted by stev�sto i think you and many others around here should stop masturbating to how clean a synth sounds or, wow listen to that subtle supersaw or, ooh that bass is much tighter than your average bass ... and just pay attention to what makes it a song in the first place. too much emphasis on production quality these days and not enough creativity. back in the day all we had was an 808 and 4 track recorders, we had to compensate the lack of production quality with creativity. i think we're getting spoiled, it used to be you could only afford so many vinyls in your crate but you made it work with what you had, but now we have millions of mp3s on our hard drive and scratch our head when it comes to thinking of what to play next. we used to only have so many production tools to work with but we made amazing tracks with what we had, now we're flooded with capabilities and better sound quality but when it comes down to sitting down and making something unique and inspiring we end up making crap like what you posted.

http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...&postid=9383188

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Originally posted by Terrence Parker Check out the producer masterclass with Nathan Fake, this guy is a real inspirarion: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3aIARLPv3MU

HAHAHA i have that same old Casio Keyboard. Gawd that thing is old


The demo song on it is

Wham - wake me up before you go go

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Originally posted by Floorfiller Wham - wake me up before you go go

Awesome

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Originally posted by Floorfiller HAHAHA i have that same old Casio Keyboard. Gawd that thing is old The demo song on it is Wham - wake me up before you go go

Time to make a remix.

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Originally posted by Terrence Parker Time to make a remix.

and this, i was thinking make a remix of this last night
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vgZm8okgH6c

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Originally posted by Energy_3 and this, i was thinking make a remix of this last night http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vgZm8okgH6c

80s
I would like to see a nice NuDisco/Prog House remix of the BMX Bandits Theme. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xp-lG3sn0rY
Hard to get any good samples.

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Originally posted by Terrence Parker 80s I would like to see a nice NuDisco/Prog House remix of the BMX Bandits Theme. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xp-lG3sn0rY Hard to get any good samples.

yip, bless the 80's. some of the best tunes come from that period'.

That Burial choon is fucking wicked. :O Love it to death. How he did this in Soundforge, I don't no idea

I have to have that album!

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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles Reminds me of a post from MD: http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...&postid=9383188

I agree with what he's saying but we need to find a middle ground. Let's face it, a lot of music back then was horribly produced but the melodies and ideas were great. These days everything is extremely polished but a lot of it lacks any substance.

The best tracks are the ones that use the new techniques and much better production quality, but still compose a song with love and original ideas.

I disagree that old production was "horrible." People say that now because they are used to everything being drenched in effects, twenty tracks of percussion, and compressed to shit, but personally a lot of the time I prefer the simpler, rawer, and yet more spaciously mixed tracks of ten to fifteen years ago.

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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles I disagree that old production was "horrible." People say that now because they are used to everything being drenched in effects, twenty tracks of percussion, and compressed to shit, but personally a lot of the time I prefer the simpler, rawer, and yet more spaciously mixed tracks of ten to fifteen years ago.

I didn't say all of it.

Plus 10 years ago was 1999. Take many tracks from early 90s or even late 90s and a lot of them while compositionally good have the sound quality of a clogged toilet.

IMO the percentage of "horrible" production was no higher back then than it is now. The difference is now that people have learned to think of polished hypercompressed turds as "normal" rather than "shit."

And that's what I'm getting at, we've gone too far with production values because we're attributing more focus on the engineering rather than the song writing. We need a middle ground.

A musical engineer, haha.

its like most things, things were built differently in the past, some could even argue better than they are today. but ultimately the difference is still tanjably good.

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Originally posted by Fledz I didn't say all of it. Plus 10 years ago was 1999. Take many tracks from early 90s or even late 90s and a lot of them while compositionally good have the sound quality of a clogged toilet.

Have you got any examples of late 90s tracks with the sound quality of a clogged toilet ?

I started buying Trance in 99 and from what I remember the sound was better then than it is now.

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