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Posted by iTranscendence on Sep-11-2009 20:24:

quote:
Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
lols, unlike you i put absolutely no importance on what random people think about the attacks. couldn't give a shit.


Thanks Random person who doesn't even live in this country.


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Sep-12-2009 01:37:

quote:
Originally posted by culorut
Post of year.

You hit the nail on the head regarding the trolls in here and how they treat other members. They hide behind their keyboards and attack others for being rational and not accepting the lies of the official story because they are the ones who are really afraid of dealing with the reality of it.

I would love to see any of these "tough guys" speak their same nonsense in front of the people who lost someone directly/indirectly on 9/11 intsead of hiding like cowards in cyberspace. The reaction on their faces after taking a slamming from those who have a real reason to be upset today (9/11 anniversary) would be absolutely priceless.

The internet way too often turns worthless piles of shit into courageous part time trolls, and we have a few good examples in this forum.

Thanks for clearing everything up Max and setting the record straight by the way. I just lost a close friend a few hours ago so I will morn a little more for you and all the good people on this tragic day.

Peace out.


that's hilarious coming from someone who routinely accuses innocent people of mass murder. and yes, if i met someone face to face that lost someone on 911, and they were going on about thermite or missiles or controlled demolition, i would have absolutely no qualms calling them a moron. luckily for me the tiny forum brigade of CTers have absolutely no influence on me (or anyone else) outside the internet.

how's that second investigation coming along fellas? got any peer-reviewed studies published in science journals yet? no? come on, we're 8 years and counting!


Posted by Fir3start3r on Sep-12-2009 03:10:

quote:
Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
how's that second investigation coming along fellas? got any peer-reviewed studies published in science journals yet? no? come on, we're 8 years and counting!


^^^^^
THIS.
/eod


Posted by LazFX on Sep-12-2009 13:41:

I come in to see whats up and this shit is still going on ....
and when did pkc become a troll??



hello to all.... just passing through....


Posted by culorut on Sep-12-2009 16:03:

quote:
Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
that's hilarious coming from someone who routinely accuses innocent people of mass murder. and yes, if i met someone face to face that lost someone on 911, and they were going on about thermite or missiles or controlled demolition, i would have absolutely no qualms calling them a moron. luckily for me the tiny forum brigade of CTers have absolutely no influence on me (or anyone else) outside the internet.


They are mass murderers, it's common knowledge but yet you are still so fuking blind and ignore it. Let me guess you believe there were Weapons of Mass Destruction in Iraq also? LOL. It's ok PKC, the dark basement you live in 24/7 restricts you from the real world. Acting tough behind your keyboard still makes you a coward.

quote:
how's that second investigation coming along fellas? got any peer-reviewed studies published in science journals yet? no? come on, we're 8 years and counting!


It is coming along, and much better then the lies and write off that the 911 Commission was. You base your beliefs from the 9/11 Commission report but they did not even cover at least half of the material that absolutely should have been.

Numerous people that where on the board of the 9/11 Commission have made it public that it was a scam and setup from the start to not cover all the facts. That is not an investigation, it is a cover up 110% and you still believe in it blindly because you are scared to ask the real questions.

Who's the fuking fraud now?


Posted by culorut on Sep-12-2009 16:11:

quote:
Originally posted by Fir3start3r
^^^^^
THIS.
/eod


No, this....


City of New York Concedes 9/11 Coalition Has 30,000 Valid Signatures to Put Referendum for 9/11 Investigation on November Ballot



NEW YORK, Sept. 10 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ -- In a last minute decision, lawyers for the City of New York have conceded that the New York City Coalition for Accountability Now (NYC CAN), a group comprising 9/11 family members, first responders and survivors, indeed did submit over 30,000 valid signatures to put the referendum for a new 9/11 investigation before the voters of New York City this November.

In an earlier letter from the City Clerk dated July 24, 2009, the City had claimed only 26,003 signatures were valid, 3,997 short of the requisite 30,000. The City's concession that over 30,000 of the 52,000 signatures submitted were in fact valid paves the way for lawyers from both sides to argue the legality of petition.

Asked whether he thought NYC CAN could overcome the City's challenge to the legality of the petition, legal counsel to the petitioners, Dennis McMahon, said, "Absolutely. Although the City has an incredibly successful record of shooting down ballot initiatives, we will be arguing from a fresh perspective that reflects the unprecedented events of 9/11. We believe the courts will see how critical an issue this is, and be persuaded with our legal reasoning and point of view." A final determination on the legality of the petition will be reached in time for the referendum to be included on the November ballot should the petitioners prevail.

Representatives for NYC CAN, 9/11 family member Manny Badillo and Executive Director Ted Walter, arrived at the Board of Elections on the morning of Wednesday, September 9, to assist the court-appointed referee in commencing a line-by-line review of the disputed signatures, only to learn the referee's review had been called off due to a last minute concession by the City. Mr. Badillo immediately got on the phone to inform others of the news.

"The City conceded we have 30,000 valid signatures. Big victory."

The City's concession comes as a result of the immense effort put forth by 50+ volunteers who gave more than 1,000 hours over a two week period from August 10 to August 25 to identify a total of 7,166 signatures that were wrongly invalidated by the NYC City Clerk and Board of Elections. On August 27, NYC CAN filed the 631-page Bill of Particulars cataloguing each of the 7,166 signatures it contended were in fact valid. NYC CAN submitted another 28,000 signatures on September 4 to guarantee the referendum will go on the ballot if they win the court case, bringing the total signatures submitted to 80,000.

NYC CAN must deliver its memorandum of law in response to the City's motion for summary judgment by Monday, September 21. The City will be given an opportunity to reply before the referee's decision is made on Monday, September 28. Fast-track appeals will likely follow no matter who wins. A final decision will have to be made by September 30.

If the referendum passes in November, it would lead to the creation of a local, independent commission with subpoena power that would be tasked with comprehensively re-investigating the attacks. For more info:

http://www.nyccan.org

http://www.sunherald.com/prnewswire/story/1597096.html


Posted by culorut on Sep-12-2009 16:12:

quote:
Originally posted by LazFX
I come in to see whats up and this shit is still going on ....
and when did pkc become a troll??



hello to all.... just passing through....


He always was, he even admitted to it, read my sig.


Posted by Krypton on Sep-12-2009 16:15:

quote:
Originally posted by Max Thomson
and thats why you're a soul-less, mean spirited troll that can do nothing but insult people. If there's an afterlife, in it you and Krypton will spend all day sucking each other off and having sex, making little troll babies that do nothing but badger people who say anything you don't agree with.

I don't particularly care what you think, but I hope you never know what its like to have a personal connection to something so unspeakably evil. One of my mom's best friends was on the first plane, and I've been flying out of Logan Intl Airport to Los Angeles since I was a baby and recognize it could've very easily been me that day. But of course you'd never know what that would be like. And, honestly, as much as you piss me off, I hope you never do.

Incidentally its a matter of PUBLIC RECORD that 6 out of the 10 9/11 commission members feel they were deceived, or at least didn't get the whole picture, so I guess they're all degenerate conspiracy theorists too right? Fuck off back to aussie-land, this has nothing to do with you.

Enjoy your angry existence, one love


All you do is cry about getting your feelings getting hurt. Quit being a little bitch.


Posted by Krypton on Sep-12-2009 16:20:

quote:
Originally posted by culorut
Post of year.

You hit the nail on the head regarding the trolls in here and how they treat other members. They hide behind their keyboards and attack others for being rational and not accepting the lies of the official story because they are the ones who are really afraid of dealing with the reality of it.

I would love to see any of these "tough guys" speak their same nonsense in front of the people who lost someone directly/indirectly on 9/11 intsead of hiding like cowards in cyberspace. The reaction on their faces after taking a slamming from those who have a real reason to be upset today (9/11 anniversary) would be absolutely priceless.

The internet way too often turns worthless piles of shit into courageous part time trolls, and we have a few good examples in this forum.

Thanks for clearing everything up Max and setting the record straight by the way. I just lost a close friend a few hours ago so I will morn a little more for you and all the good people on this tragic day.

Peace out.


Posted by colorut:
...instead of being a pussy like you. Get some balls already. Just when I thought there could not be any bigger kunts on this planet you had to go out do yourself again. I know you will ignore because you are to fuckin full of yourself and will never debate. IDIOT.

---------------

Shut your hypocrite ass up bitch.


Posted by culorut on Sep-12-2009 16:21:

quote:
Originally posted by Krypton
All you do is cry about getting your feelings getting hurt. Quit being a little bitch.


^^

Another tough guy hiding behind the keyboard.

I bet if you lost someone on 911 and the 911 Commission failed you like it has to everyone that did lose someone you would not be singing the same tune.


Posted by Krypton on Sep-12-2009 16:25:

quote:
Originally posted by culorut
^^

Another tough guy hiding behind the keyboard.


I'm not a tough guy. When someone acts like an ass, I treat them like one. Notice how you'r one of the few I insult on this board. Because your posts are full of insults to anyone disagreeing with you. Stop bitching about reaping what you sow.

quote:
I bet if you lost someone on 911 and the 911 Commission failed you like it has to everyone that did lose someone you would not be singing the same tune.


A useless rhetoric argument which I will not answer. It proves nothing, like almost every one of your arguments.


Posted by culorut on Sep-12-2009 16:27:

quote:
Originally posted by Krypton
Posted by colorut:
...instead of being a pussy like you. Get some balls already. Just when I thought there could not be any bigger kunts on this planet you had to go out do yourself again. I know you will ignore because you are to fuckin full of yourself and will never debate. IDIOT.

---------------

Shut your hypocrite ass up bitch.


No thanks, I am speaking for the people who have lost someone and because the questions must be answered. Debate why the Commission failed the public already. Most of the families that lost someone on 911 agree that it was a scam including the people on the very same board.

You can now join PKC being the coward and fraud for believing in that shit.


Posted by Krypton on Sep-12-2009 16:30:

quote:
Originally posted by culorut
No thanks, I am speaking for the people who have lost someone and because the questions must be answered. Debate why the Commission failed the public already. Most of the families that lost someone on 911 agree that it was a scam including the people on the very same board.

You can now join PKC being the coward and fraud for believing in that shit.


I'm sure your concern for speaking for lost loved ones justifies you calling people pussies, idiots, kunts, cowards, and frauds..

You are the village idiot.


Posted by culorut on Sep-12-2009 16:43:

quote:
Originally posted by Krypton
I'm sure your concern for speaking for lost loved ones justifies you calling people pussies, idiots, kunts, cowards, and frauds..

You are the village idiot.


It is justified because the people I am calling frauds, idiots, cowards (you) etc show no remorse for people who really did lose someone on 911 and want questions answered which the government clearly covered up from the start.

I did not find it funny when the troll PKC called somebody a moron for wanting to know why the person they knew which was killed on 911 had any right to do that in the first place.

Yes I am standing up for someone, live with it and stop being a pussy.

Pussy.


Posted by Krypton on Sep-12-2009 17:48:

quote:
Originally posted by culorut
It is justified because the people I am calling frauds, idiots, cowards (you) etc show no remorse for people who really did lose someone on 911 and want questions answered which the government clearly covered up from the start.

I did not find it funny when the troll PKC called somebody a moron for wanting to know why the person they knew which was killed on 911 had any right to do that in the first place.

Yes I am standing up for someone, live with it and stop being a pussy.

Pussy.


Thanks for demonstrating that the fraud is really you..


Posted by culorut on Sep-12-2009 21:10:

quote:
Originally posted by Krypton
Thanks for demonstrating that the fraud is really you..


At least I do not believe in a half ass 911 Commission that was setup to fail from the start. You have put all your faith into the official 911 fraud, not me.


Posted by culorut on Sep-12-2009 21:25:

quote:
Originally posted by Max Thomson
^^^ sorry to hear about that man, you'll be in my thoughts as well.

and thanks for the support, it really bugs me when people come on here trying to have an honest, open discussion about any topic, political or unpolitical, and they get shouted down by these ass-clowns just because they don't see eye to eye with them. I've been posting on TA for a long time, and its the only forum I still frequent because I really do think this is an awesome, enlightened community, built on all the positive things and amazing experiences that come from sharing electronic music with total strangers. But more and more these days you'll see topics cropping up asking why people are so down-right mean on here, not just in the PDD but all over this board, and I think its really gotten out of hand. I'm all for joking around and am quite a sarcastic son-of-a-bitch myself, but this whole childish practice of beating up on people just because they disagree with you really needs to go. I don't post in here often because I know shit like this will happen, but you know what, fuck that, we all need to speak up on behalf of promoting open and honest discussion. The more people that speak up on behalf of promoting open discussion, the better this place will become. so for anyone out there who's reading this and has been put off by these dweebs, don't let their none-sense stop you from speaking your mind! they obviously can't handle any sort of criticism or opposing viewpoint, but guess what, its the INTERNET, get used to it or FUCK OFF! there are people here that genuinely are trying to make this a better place, don't put them down just for speaking their mind.

And remember that good ol' ignore list works wonders!

/end rant


Thanks, cancer is a motherfuker and has taken many lives including my very good friend yesterday.

To be honest I do not use the ignore list because I get a kick out of reading posts from the degenerate assholes which still exist in this forum. I actually enjoy putting them in their place every now and then, otherwise we would have a forum full of people who take everything at face value never questioning anything that must be true because "they" said so.


Posted by Krypton on Sep-12-2009 22:26:

quote:
Originally posted by culorut
we would have a forum full of people who take everything at face value never questioning anything that must be true because "they" said so.


We should take you at face value right?

quote:
Originally posted by culorut
At least I do not believe in a half ass 911 Commission that was setup to fail from the start. You have put all your faith into the official 911 fraud, not me.


If you or your ilk could have proven your case in the 8 years since 9/11, I would have expected people to be in prison by now charged with some serious crimes. Your "movement" has failed to name anyone to charge or make a case worthy of a courtroom. Everyone wants an independent commission. Until then, the original 9/11 commissions and the various other reports give a satisfactory account of the event. Your version of events is full of fallacies and leaps of logic, no serious inquirer would agree with you.

Care to answer these question Mr. Prosecutor? The floor is yours.

1) Who planned and led this whole government conspiracy?
2) What was their motive?
3) When did they plan and prepare?
4) Where did the conspirators plan, prepare, and carry the conspiracy out from?
5) Why did the US government want to destroy its financial capital, attack its military headquarters, and send a missile into the middle of nowhere in Pennsylvania.


Posted by Moongoose on Sep-13-2009 03:54:

quote:
Originally posted by culorut
To be honest I do not use the ignore list because I get a kick out of reading posts from the degenerate assholes which still exist in this forum. I actually enjoy putting them in their place every now and then, otherwise we would have a forum full of people who take everything at face value never questioning anything that must be true because "they" said so.



Wait, I seem to be missing something...when have you ever put someone in their place during a debate on this forum? Granted i dont have the time to visit pdd as much as i used to, but ever there was a thread if ever there was a thread (or even a post) where you put someone in their place it is bound to be so epic and notorious that everybody would know about it. So i ask again, post a link to this mythical thread where you were the one doing the pwning instead of the usual other way around.


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Sep-13-2009 05:46:

quote:
Originally posted by culorut
No, this....


City of New York Concedes 9/11 Coalition Has 30,000 Valid Signatures to Put Referendum for 9/11 Investigation on November Ballot



NEW YORK, Sept. 10 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ -- In a last minute decision, lawyers for the City of New York have conceded that the New York City Coalition for Accountability Now (NYC CAN), a group comprising 9/11 family members, first responders and survivors, indeed did submit over 30,000 valid signatures to put the referendum for a new 9/11 investigation before the voters of New York City this November.

In an earlier letter from the City Clerk dated July 24, 2009, the City had claimed only 26,003 signatures were valid, 3,997 short of the requisite 30,000. The City's concession that over 30,000 of the 52,000 signatures submitted were in fact valid paves the way for lawyers from both sides to argue the legality of petition.

Asked whether he thought NYC CAN could overcome the City's challenge to the legality of the petition, legal counsel to the petitioners, Dennis McMahon, said, "Absolutely. Although the City has an incredibly successful record of shooting down ballot initiatives, we will be arguing from a fresh perspective that reflects the unprecedented events of 9/11. We believe the courts will see how critical an issue this is, and be persuaded with our legal reasoning and point of view." A final determination on the legality of the petition will be reached in time for the referendum to be included on the November ballot should the petitioners prevail.

Representatives for NYC CAN, 9/11 family member Manny Badillo and Executive Director Ted Walter, arrived at the Board of Elections on the morning of Wednesday, September 9, to assist the court-appointed referee in commencing a line-by-line review of the disputed signatures, only to learn the referee's review had been called off due to a last minute concession by the City. Mr. Badillo immediately got on the phone to inform others of the news.

"The City conceded we have 30,000 valid signatures. Big victory."

The City's concession comes as a result of the immense effort put forth by 50+ volunteers who gave more than 1,000 hours over a two week period from August 10 to August 25 to identify a total of 7,166 signatures that were wrongly invalidated by the NYC City Clerk and Board of Elections. On August 27, NYC CAN filed the 631-page Bill of Particulars cataloguing each of the 7,166 signatures it contended were in fact valid. NYC CAN submitted another 28,000 signatures on September 4 to guarantee the referendum will go on the ballot if they win the court case, bringing the total signatures submitted to 80,000.

NYC CAN must deliver its memorandum of law in response to the City's motion for summary judgment by Monday, September 21. The City will be given an opportunity to reply before the referee's decision is made on Monday, September 28. Fast-track appeals will likely follow no matter who wins. A final decision will have to be made by September 30.

If the referendum passes in November, it would lead to the creation of a local, independent commission with subpoena power that would be tasked with comprehensively re-investigating the attacks. For more info:

http://www.nyccan.org

http://www.sunherald.com/prnewswire/story/1597096.html


quoted for posterity. i cant wait to see this blow up in your face. should only be a few weeks til you find out why the city didn't bother contesting the signature issues


Posted by Halcyon+On+On on Sep-13-2009 07:44:

I think Conspiracy Theorists did 9/11 and are merely trying to deflect the attention away from themselves. My proof? They possess so much technical knowledge about the scenario, it's obvious they are guilty.


Posted by culorut on Sep-13-2009 16:22:

quote:
Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
quoted for posterity. i cant wait to see this blow up in your face. should only be a few weeks til you find out why the city didn't bother contesting the signature issues



Like I give a fuk what some troll thinks. Maybe you believe all these people that signed actually care what you think too?

LOL

idiot.


Posted by culorut on Sep-13-2009 16:39:

quote:
Originally posted by Krypton
We should take you at face value right?



If you or your ilk could have proven your case in the 8 years since 9/11, I would have expected people to be in prison by now charged with some serious crimes. Your "movement" has failed to name anyone to charge or make a case worthy of a courtroom. Everyone wants an independent commission. Until then, the original 9/11 commissions and the various other reports give a satisfactory account of the event. Your version of events is full of fallacies and leaps of logic, no serious inquirer would agree with you.

Care to answer these question Mr. Prosecutor? The floor is yours.

1) Who planned and led this whole government conspiracy?
2) What was their motive?
3) When did they plan and prepare?
4) Where did the conspirators plan, prepare, and carry the conspiracy out from?
5) Why did the US government want to destroy its financial capital, attack its military headquarters, and send a missile into the middle of nowhere in Pennsylvania.


Actually some of those questions is what your government failed to answer from day one. You should be asking them truther.



The answers to your questions are as follows and as absolutely crazy as they seem this is the "official version" which you believe in. I guess you official story believers like "satisfactory" answers to serious questions.

1. Osama and 19 hijackers
2. They hate America's freedoms
3. The CIA funded them through ISI
4. In a fucking cave
5. False flag operation, you need a very good reason to go to war and everyone knows it was a waste of time and more importantly lives.


Posted by Krypton on Sep-13-2009 19:16:

quote:
Originally posted by culorut
Actually some of those questions is what your government failed to answer from day one. You should be asking them truther.



The answers to your questions are as follows and as absolutely crazy as they seem this is the "official version" which you believe in. I guess you official story believers like "satisfactory" answers to serious questions.

1. Osama and 19 hijackers
2. They hate America's freedoms
3. The CIA funded them through ISI
4. In a fucking cave
5. False flag operation, you need a very good reason to go to war and everyone knows it was a waste of time and more importantly lives.


Did I ask you for the official version? No, I asked you to make your case by answering these questions. I'm giving you a chance here so you can't whine about nobody listening to you.


Posted by Spam on Sep-13-2009 19:41:

quote:
Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On
I think Conspiracy Theorists did 9/11 and are merely trying to deflect the attention away from themselves. My proof? They possess so much technical knowledge about the scenario, it's obvious they are guilty.


Holy shit, I never looked at it from that perspective.

But now that I've researched the subject at hand, I think you're 100% correct.

I looked it up on youtube, and there's this one video where they blame the CTs and fuckin PROVE it with pictures glues to construction paper, so it MUST be true!

The CTs are covering it up, that's why we can't find any evidence.


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