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Posted by Clovis on Sep-18-2009 22:46:

quote:
Originally posted by clubamerica
Yes... Yes he does!! Jealous??


No, not at all.


Posted by Sadface on Sep-18-2009 22:57:

quote:
Originally posted by clubamerica
Yes... Yes he does!! Jealous??

I'm pretty sure everyone is jealous of tiesto to some degree. Who wouldn't want all his money and pseudo-fame for playing some CD's up on a stage to a chemically enhanced crowd that's loving every song? Sure, you can take issue with his music, but the job of a successful (read: rich) pro DJ is something that I would think everyone on this forum would take in about a second.

Still, the fact that any DJ, but especially one as technically and musically unremarkable as Tiesto, can get to where he is today makes a very profound statement about electronic music and the way it's enjoyed by most people.


Posted by Clovis on Sep-18-2009 23:09:

quote:
Originally posted by Sadface
I'm pretty sure everyone is jealous of tiesto to some degree. Who wouldn't want all his money and pseudo-fame for playing some CD's up on a stage to a chemically enhanced crowd that's loving every song? Sure, you can take issue with his music, but the job of a successful (read: rich) pro DJ is something that I would think everyone on this forum would take in about a second.

Still, the fact that any DJ, but especially one as technically and musically unremarkable as Tiesto, can get to where he is today makes a very profound statement about electronic music and the way it's enjoyed by most people.


I don't consider Tiesto to be a professional, personally.

Second, the idea of taking his job if it were hypothetically on offer to anyone is pretty stupid. To take his job would be to take on his entire identity, because the identity that he has created is what brings in the money. In effect you would have to surrender whoever you are and become Tiesto, and I'd never in a million years do that.


Posted by Sadface on Sep-18-2009 23:51:

quote:
Originally posted by Clovis
I don't consider Tiesto to be a professional, personally.

Second, the idea of taking his job if it were hypothetically on offer to anyone is pretty stupid. To take his job would be to take on his entire identity, because the identity that he has created is what brings in the money. In effect you would have to surrender whoever you are and become Tiesto, and I'd never in a million years do that.

First of all, I was purposefully ambiguous in my post, saying pretty much anyone on this forum would want to be a successful pro DJ, which is something I KNOW you of all people would go for given the chance.

Secondly - in particular with Tiesto, his "identity" only manifests itself on stage and in publicity photos. Nobody really cares about who he is or what he does when he's not playing music because he's just not that famous. At least not here in the states. I have no idea what its like for him in europe.

If you would really be unwilling take a job where all you need to do is play some (mostly bad) music for a few hours once or twice a week while jet setting to exotic locations and getting paid millions of dollars annually you must have a sick fucking job right now.


Posted by Apeattack on Sep-19-2009 00:31:

quote:
Originally posted by Clovis
I don't consider Tiesto to be a professional, personally.


Why? Who is a professional to you?


Posted by malaplace on Sep-19-2009 00:44:

quote:
Originally posted by Clovis
I don't consider Tiesto to be a professional, personally.

Second, the idea of taking his job if it were hypothetically on offer to anyone is pretty stupid. To take his job would be to take on his entire identity, because the identity that he has created is what brings in the money. In effect you would have to surrender whoever you are and become Tiesto, and I'd never in a million years do that.


Whoa. Holy strawman.


Posted by Uncle ED on Sep-19-2009 03:22:

This is way old news and Vid.....


Posted by Clovis on Sep-19-2009 04:19:

quote:
Originally posted by Sadface
If you would really be unwilling take a job where all you need to do is play some (mostly bad) music for a few hours once or twice a week while jet setting to exotic locations and getting paid millions of dollars annually you must have a sick fucking job right now.


Actually I do not have a sick job right now, I'm only 23.

In a few years I hope to be doing mostly that minus the bad music and exorbitant salary.

So yes, I wouldn't take the job.

I'm surprised that it is so difficult to understand that some people might not want to ever be anything like Tiesto. The idea itself to me of saying "would you be this person?" doesn't make sense to me in the first place.

Like, would I be Bill Gates because he's rich? Yeah sure. I'd like to be rich. I'd like to be paid as well as Tiesto sure. But the hypothetical is sort of a pointless question. I am me. I am not going to be those people, so what is the point in even asking, or getting upset because you don't like my answer?


Posted by Clovis on Sep-19-2009 04:22:

quote:
Originally posted by Apeattack
Why? Who is a professional to you?


Dance music wise?

Ryan Elliot
Three
Ricardo Villalobos
Shaun Reeves
Doc Martin
DJ Harvey
John Digweed
Lee Burridge

etc.

Even Paul Van Dyk, as gash as the music he plays may be, is imo far more "professional" than Tiesto. He puts on something of an original show.


Posted by Jim Carson on Sep-19-2009 04:23:

Bas, delete this thread. I think I am losing brain cells. That's only supposed to happen when I am at the club.


Posted by clubamerica on Sep-19-2009 06:27:

Clovis getting owned.


Posted by Kismet7 on Sep-19-2009 06:44:

I think crowds enjoy a DJ fucking up once in a while. I'd be entertaining, and it would say the DJ is a human who is using things that are mechanical, and between the human and mechanical object mistakes might happen.


Posted by Sadface on Sep-19-2009 08:51:

quote:
Originally posted by Clovis
Actually I do not have a sick job right now, I'm only 23.

In a few years I hope to be doing mostly that minus the bad music and exorbitant salary.

So yes, I wouldn't take the job.

I'm surprised that it is so difficult to understand that some people might not want to ever be anything like Tiesto. The idea itself to me of saying "would you be this person?" doesn't make sense to me in the first place.

Like, would I be Bill Gates because he's rich? Yeah sure. I'd like to be rich. I'd like to be paid as well as Tiesto sure. But the hypothetical is sort of a pointless question. I am me. I am not going to be those people, so what is the point in even asking, or getting upset because you don't like my answer?

Uh, nobody's getting upset here except maybe you. I made an extremely general statement: "Pretty much everyone here wishes they could be a successful pro DJ," which shouldn't have caused ANY real discussion. Still, you tried to argue with it for a couple of posts only to eventually pretend to disagree with me (even though you obviously don't) while simultaneously falling back to the tried and true cop out line: "oh well the question is dumb anyway."

I have to say this was quite fun.


Posted by R!CH on Sep-19-2009 09:12:

no one is being owned here

there is a distinct difference between the two statements:

Pretty much everyone here wishes they could be a successful pro DJ

Pretty much everyone here wishes they could be tiesto

one does not need to sacrifice his own identity to become the first, while he must in order to become the second. there are people out there believe it or not who value their own self, potential and free will more than the guarantee of having the end product of success and recognition delivered to them under some predetermined conditions. life to them is not a having and getting, but a being and becoming.

would i trade my life for tiesto's? no. i would rather be my own nobody and haven being given that choice to determine my own fate than be defined by someone else's path for the sake of comfort and vanity. only they who can't contextualize what it is to be alive would choose to "be tiesto"


Posted by Sadface on Sep-19-2009 09:36:

quote:
Originally posted by R!CH
no one is being owned here

there is a distinct difference between the two statements:

Pretty much everyone here wishes they could be a successful pro DJ

Pretty much everyone here wishes they could be tiesto

one does not need to sacrifice his own identity to become the first, while he must in order to become the second. there are people out there believe it or not who value their own self, potential and path in life more than the guarantee of having the end product of success and recognition handed to them under someone else's terms. life to them is not a having and getting, but a being and becoming.

would i trade my life for tiesto's? no. i would rather be my own nobody and haven being given that choice to determine my own fate than be defined by someone else's path for the sake of comfort and vanity. only they who can't contextualize what it is to be alive would choose to "be tiesto"

Well said, except that nobody ever said the second statement. My first post was just saying the first one, but by using tiesto as the example of a "successful pro dj" it immediately got the hate-train rolling.

As far as the "trading lives" argument goes, I'm pretty sure everyone agrees with that. I wouldn't trade my fundamental state of being with anyone else for anything. But would I trade jobs? Sure. I'd still be me, just doing cooler shit every day.


Posted by alpha.wav on Sep-19-2009 11:11:

Re: Tiesto FAILS! LMAO.... lol

quote:
Originally posted by DjWoody
Just watch the video... :27 sec in! lol



Thank you Dr. Woody for posting this video.

Yes thats right people, Tiesto is *NOT*God and needs to poop and pee like the rest of us!!!

and +over 9000 to those that said this was a message from God to stop playing that fn god-forsaken track!! that song is not for floor use anymore, its for "private use only" - I think my grandpa has that song on vinyl...its the 12" thats stuck right in between the Mozart and Handel LPs


Posted by Banora on Sep-19-2009 21:36:

Sucks to be him... I think he handled it pretty well. He could have thrown a massive diva fit and stormed off the stage.


Posted by clubamerica on Sep-20-2009 01:23:

quote:
Originally posted by R!CH
no one is being owned here

Yes they are. its Clovis getting schooled


Posted by iclone on Sep-20-2009 01:35:

quote:
Originally posted by clubamerica
Yes they are. its Clovis getting schooled

you clearly don't know clovis...



...or you are an idiot...



...or both.


Posted by naeblis on Sep-20-2009 02:48:

children, this is why you don't take a simple statement on a messageboard and turn it into a philisophical arguement.

movie is not that funny.


Posted by shuni on Sep-20-2009 03:32:

clovis is tiesto's son.



Posted by iclone on Sep-20-2009 04:17:

i'm bas.


Posted by clubamerica on Sep-20-2009 07:41:

quote:
Originally posted by iclone
you clearly don't know clovis...



...or you are an idiot...



...or both.
You clearly dont know Tiesto...


... or you are an Idiot...



or......wait you dont know Tiesto,personely, neither do I so why the HATE???


or...wait you do know Clovis....

so you are the idiot!!!


Posted by manu.el on Sep-20-2009 16:59:


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