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| Originally posted by owien i think people here just like to have a good chat about edm i know i do |
E) My response always has and will be the same:
If you don't like it...why are you listening to it and taking the time to write how much you hate it?
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| Originally posted by DJ_Rafnel E) My response always has and will be the same: If you don't like it...why are you listening to it and taking the time to write how much you hate it? |
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| Originally posted by Kismet7 cause doing something else would require some sort of skill or talent? or they have nothing better to do? or they simply are trolls? or they are something else? |
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| Originally posted by Kismet7 cause doing something else would require some sort of skill or talent? or they have nothing better to do? or they simply are trolls? or they are something else? |
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| Originally posted by DJ_Rafnel E) My response always has and will be the same: If you don't like it...why are you listening to it and taking the time to write how much you hate it? |
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| Originally posted by Mr.Mystery What is it with you and the troll word? |
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| Originally posted by Kismet7 whats its with you and pointless questions? |
LOL.
Ahh you're a trip. But out of all of them, you're not that bad somehow.
My answer would be :
A - I wouldnt really care what some faceless person says about me/my music/my production/my dj`ing etc on a faceless forum, what would be the point?
If i had sold countless albums be them mp3 or vinyl, have had and still get plenty of dj gigs, am in love and being loved by the most wonderful woman on the planet, live in thailand and make my music in the sun, make a living from doing what i truly love to do, why oh why oh why would i even break sweat about it?
In my opinion many people now a days seem to care more about "what other people think" than actually doing what they want to do, i hear it all the time, especially with the risks i took in my own personal life which meant i was no longer part of the main stream way of life.
Just get on with your OWN life, enjoy it, spread your wings and fly through your own experiences and live your life to the fullest, take your q`s from those you trust and love, not unknown, faceless avatars whome you probably couldnt please even with a large Dildo :O
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| Originally posted by DJ_Rafnel If you don't like it...why are you listening to it and taking the time to write how much you hate it? |
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| Originally posted by Mr.Mystery What is it with you and the troll word? |
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| Originally posted by Beatflux I don't try and listen to new music by listening to music I have already heard. People have feelings and the need to express them. |
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| Originally posted by Mr.Mystery Obviously one would have to listen to it to know whether he/she likes it or not... BUT the endless bickering about it is indeed quite pointless. If you don't like something, fine - state your opinion and move on. Then again the opposite end of spectrum is just as bad. Some people will praise anything made by their favourite producer even if it was an 8 bit recording of cats farting. |
well said !!
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| Originally posted by mfitterer1 The reason this usually happens is because they're attention whores or talentless hacks and they'd rather be in the position the person in question is. It's simple jealousy that starts most of these flamewars; except when it comes to music. Let's face it; there are those among us who have gifted brains made for this stuff and others that will never even come close. Like anything in life not everyone can succeed at it. So when people who don't (a large % of internet forum communities) see someone who does and has a chance to degrade the quality of his/her work; they jump at it. |
I agree with Mr Mystery. There are a lot of feelings / triggers that could result in harsh criticism of music.
Music is about emotion, so is it so strange that emotional responses can result from music that's below someone's expectation?
"Someone was good dammit, why does he have to suck now! Become good again you asshole!"
That's not jealousy, it's someone's crushed hope of being delighted by someone's new music.
"Someone is in a position to steer the mainstream side of a genre towards innovation, but he/she chooses to use that position to churn out carbon copies of his/her success track"
Seems more like frustration with missed opportunities in the view of the listener, than jealousy to me.
I'm going to have to go with A. If I were in that situation and I saw someone bashing my stuff I really think I wouldn't care. I'm the one getting paid for it so in the end, I win.
Now if it were beyond immature bashing and there was something constructive in there, I might take that into account for my future work.
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| Originally posted by mfitterer1 The reason this usually happens is because they're attention whores or talentless hacks and they'd rather be in the position the person in question is. It's simple jealousy that starts most of these flamewars; except when it comes to music. Let's face it; there are those among us who have gifted brains made for this stuff and others that will never even come close. Like anything in life not everyone can succeed at it. So when people who don't (a large % of internet forum communities) see someone who does and has a chance to degrade the quality of his/her work; they jump at it. It's always seemed pretty simple to me. Me personally I shove their shit right back in their face because the more fucked up and hateful shit they say to me or about my music the more it motivates me to prove them wrong. How do you do that? By continuing to learn and refine/improving my sound. Obviously I would like everyone to enjoy my music (what producer doesn't want that?) but it's just not possible. |
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| Originally posted by Pjotr G "Someone is in a position to steer the mainstream side of a genre towards innovation, but he/she chooses to use that position to churn out carbon copies of his/her success track" |
I would explicitly explain how my shoes were of a greater value than you could ever conceive of. That's industry standard, no?
I was not trying to argue a position of my own above. I was trying to describe common views with possible motivations, avoiding the jealousy card.
I, myself, understand that there are musicians who make music for a living, and thus make some 'safe' choices (and I also understand there's no such thing as a sure thing, which it why the quotes are around 'safe').
I know mate im just opening up the debate
So many factors here.
Who is saying it?
Where are they saying it?
What are the accusations? (Extremely defaming? might even call for possible legal action in a very extreme and rare situation)
Generally though, people who take the time to bad mouth you in a negative way don't deserve a response. And people who want to believe what they hear from others are people that you don't want as fans. At least I don't anyway.
i cant picture myself in that situation so i have no idea what id do. i might have killed myself, or i might have registered and act like angelo or ingrosso or who fuck swedish gangsta it was: "i got my own shoo, who are u? im better than you looser", lol id probably do that.
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