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Posted by Silky Johnson on Oct-12-2009 14:27:

Yeah but you were obviously lying because the opposite is true. I KNOW you would fuck Rupaul. Why you mad son?


Posted by denys envy on Oct-12-2009 14:30:

i had a conversation about this with a friend a few weeks back.

is it my race (white) that pre-determines my attraction to a black woman, or is it that a bigger percentage of black women are unattractive (as opposed to white/asian/etc.)

basically, are black women generally less attractive than white ones, or am i pre-determined to think so because i'm white.

does that make sense?

i don't think there's a proper answer, and it's probably a mixture of both. but living in baltimore (huge black population) i see my fair share of chocolate, and percentage wise i'd say there's just more attractive white women.

i dunno... something to think about.


Posted by denys envy on Oct-12-2009 14:31:

quote:
Originally posted by bas
What!?! I told you I don't like dark meat. You fuckin liar

Domesticated is right, you're not funny at all!


doesn't egyptian fall into the dark meat category?... you self-hater.


Posted by Silky Johnson on Oct-12-2009 14:32:

Bas dates a white woman so people will take him more seriously.


Posted by MeLLyMeL on Oct-12-2009 15:55:

I liked this cute black boy in high school. He won like homecoming prince/ or prom king.. 1 of those.

Everytime he would come to talk to me all these black girls would get SOOOOOOOOO jealous. They'd start screaming at him " Cory, don't forget our baby" . The most retarded shit.

These girls would pop out of nowhere too. Like if they were stalking him lol.


Posted by Omega_Blue on Oct-12-2009 16:08:

i am personally rarely attracted to black black girls. any one that i was attracted to in high school was half-asian or half-white. typically i'm only attracted to white or asian girls (and not dark-skinned asians like cambodian/lao etc). i think the media has a lot to do with that- black black women are typically associated with big asses, fat tits, humongous.. well, everything. kind of an unfair depiction.

in the end, i'm attracted to pretty girls, and averse to ugly ones, regardless of race.


Posted by bas on Oct-12-2009 16:11:

quote:
Originally posted by denys envy
doesn't egyptian fall into the dark meat category?... you self-hater.

Yes.
quote:
Originally posted by jennypie
Bas dates a white woman so people will take him more seriously.

Yes.


Posted by Omega_Blue on Oct-12-2009 16:14:

quote:
Originally posted by bas
Yes.

Yes.



Posted by Lira on Oct-12-2009 16:44:

quote:
Originally posted by Domesticated
Why do you say that? Do you believe media really controls our perceptions of each other that much?

Yes and no.

Firstly, I'm not talking exclusively about the media, but about the cultural discourse as a whole. In this thread (which is hardly a representative, but anyway), it's hardly a coincidence that an Australian thinks black girls have perky arses, while North Americans in jest talk about "Shaniquas" and girls that "read Jet magazine while eating fried chicken and getting [their] nails done while chewing some 5 hour old bubble gum and start calling everyone 'girlllllllll'". I'm not North American and even I know this stereotype: can that be a coincidence? Many a true word is spoken in jest, and it may well be a sign that there's something wrong with their PR campaign

In that sense, I truly think that social meaning plays an active role in attraction. For example, as you can see on the right, there were products to help you gain weight in the end of the 19th century, and that was sure commercialised in order to satisfy a social demand. It's no secret that society plays a role in what is to be considered attractive and what isn't: if you take a look at some paintings from the Renaissance, you can see that women were almost always portrayed with charming love handles. When was the last time you opened a magazine and saw a chubby model?

As you can see, you can not help but recognise that there is a certain influence regarding what is to be considered attractive to any society, and these values are quite often arbitrary. For example, why the hell do the Japanese even care about double eyelids? She looked better before applying that damn thing! If that's not social, and with the sole intent of mimicking the shape of the eyes of pretty much everyone else in the world, then the next paragraph shouldn't make sense.

The fact is that we're rarely exposed to beauty that doesn't conform to what I'd call "European". That's not just because Whites (Hispanic or otherwise) are a majority in developed countries, but because we still haven't welcomed other peoples aesthetically, so to speak. Why do Americans have expressions like "jungle fever" and "yellow fever", for example, and nothing like "white cracka fever"? I almost feel that being attracted to white people is considered to be the norm (reason why white males fared so well) even if you're not white. That's what our culture oozes, and the consequences are sometimes quite funny. Anyway, take a look at Slylee's "Hot" thread to see what I mean.

On the other hand, I wouldn't be so absolute as to deny the possibility of an underlying biological bias towards fair-skinned women. "Fair Women, Dark Men", written by an anthropologist at Université Laval in Quebec named Peter Frost seems to have an argument in favour of a less cultural interpretation. In the foreword, U. of Washington sociologist Pierre L. van den Berghe states:
Although virtually all cultures express a marked preference for fair female skin, even those with little or no exposure to European imperialism, and even those whose members are heavily pigmented, many are indifferent to male pigmentation or even prefer men to be darker.
Honestly, I know very little about this book, but I'm humble enough to know this may play an influence. And this maybe why black woman, rather than black man, are prejudiced against. However, should culture not play a role, white men wouldn't be so popular either. So there,
quote:
Originally posted by Domesticated
What about the fact that many white men just don't find black women attractive?

Lack of exposure, plus other social implications. And, there may be the biological variable I posted above, but that's not a determinant factor.

quote:
Originally posted by Domesticated
There is nothing racist about that. Caucasians have an overwhelming majority in most Western countries, so it makes sense that black people would receive less responses to their advertisements. Also, underlying racism present in at least some percentage of people present on dating sites would have an effect here too.

Even if Caucasians are a majority in economically developed countries, everyone else is awfully under-represented in the media as aesthetic models. Really, with some effort I think we can all name a hundred hot Hollywood actors (and actresses). Now, out of this list, can you think of 5 Asian Americans, 13 African Americans and (I don't understand why they are a distinct group but...) 14 Hispanic Americans? Try not to over-represent any gender

But, I'd have to agree with you, the term "racism" is being used too loosely here. It's not like I believe "race" has any validity anyway.


Posted by astroboy on Oct-12-2009 23:18:

quote:
Originally posted by Lira
an Australian thinks black girls have perky arses,


Hey my opinion is based on empirical observation ... there are quite a few African immigrants around Melbourne these days and all the (not overweight) women seem to have perfect arses.


Posted by chimera66 on Oct-13-2009 01:45:

quote:
Originally posted by denys envy
i don't think there's a proper answer, and it's probably a mixture of both. but living in baltimore (huge black population) i see my fair share of chocolate, and percentage wise i'd say there's just more attractive white women.


isn't baltimore full of ghetto people many of which just happen to be black? i don't personally care if you find black women attractive but i do care that you think an accurate representation is ghetto trash. i hate ghetto people.


Posted by Nrg2Nfinit on Oct-13-2009 01:48:

quote:
Originally posted by chimera66
isn't baltimore full of ghetto people many of which just happen to be black? i don't personally care if you find black women attractive but i do care that you think an accurate representation is ghetto trash. i hate ghetto people.


Lol fuck that shit.. i love the ghetto.. have you ever riddin up on dat ghetto booty

DAYUM once you hit dat you ain't goin baaack i tellz ya


Posted by chimera66 on Oct-13-2009 01:56:

i really don't like ghetto people so no.


Posted by Spam on Oct-13-2009 02:12:

quote:
Originally posted by Arbiter
Maybe black women tend to have atrocious grammar?

http://blog.okcupid.com/index.php/2...-first-message/

You can't control for every other variable; therefore, you can't draw any conclusion about whether it is race per se that is affecting response rates.

The data are amusing, though...


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Posted by Lebezniatnikov on Oct-13-2009 02:12:



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Posted by yukii on Oct-13-2009 02:13:

my name isn't yukii.

it's lah'fawndah


Posted by Arbiter on Oct-13-2009 04:39:

quote:
Originally posted by Spam
Awesome! Pretty much how�s it going? My zombie vegetarian metal band you mention, atheist!


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Posted by denys envy on Oct-13-2009 04:41:

quote:
Originally posted by chimera66
isn't baltimore full of ghetto people many of which just happen to be black? i don't personally care if you find black women attractive but i do care that you think an accurate representation is ghetto trash. i hate ghetto people.


so where exactly do i go for a high volume non-ghetto black population?


Posted by Spam on Oct-13-2009 04:42:

quote:
Originally posted by Arbiter
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Posted by Arbiter on Oct-13-2009 04:46:

quote:
Originally posted by denys envy
so where exactly do i go for a high volume non-ghetto black population?



Posted by echosystm on Oct-13-2009 13:20:

i generally don't find indian or african american women attractive. it just seems like the majority of them aren't very good looking. in particular, black women seem very masculine and that is a huge de-boner. however, when indian and black women ARE attractive, they're hot as fuck

anyone else notice this?


Posted by denys envy on Oct-13-2009 13:50:

quote:
Originally posted by echosystm
i generally don't find indian or african american women attractive. it just seems like the majority of them aren't very good looking. in particular, black women seem very masculine and that is a huge de-boner. however, when indian and black women ARE attractive, they're hot as fuck

anyone else notice this?


i mean... when i find a diamond amongst turds, i'm generally pretty excited too... more so than when finding a diamond amongst diamonds.


Posted by Slylee on Oct-13-2009 16:56:

there's plenty of all black neighborhoods in south florida that aren't "ghetto". they're just middle class working black families. same with cuban dominated neighborhoods in parts of southwest miami.


Posted by chimera66 on Oct-13-2009 18:15:

^there you go. i don't judge all white people by those who live in trailer parks. yes we all are black but i think i would be hard pressed to find an attracrive guy in the trailer park and i do find white guys attractive. either way ghetto does not equal black.


Posted by Slylee on Oct-13-2009 18:28:

my best friend used to live in a predominantly black neighborhood but the houses and lawn were nicely maintained and there were kids in the street playing football and stuff on the weekends and people waving at you and stuff when you drove by. he always joked about it and called it "the hood" but i always told him i didn't get the "hood" vibe at all from his neighborhood. it was a nice neighborhood with mostly black families. no biggie.

we're house hunting now and we looked at a place in a neighborhood like that and we were strongly considering it but then we got this other deal where we get to find a foreclosure property now. but anyway my point is, we know the difference between a hood and neighborhood with working black people in it.


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