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I don't agree, nor do I think the premise of "very best CD of all times" make much sense.

It gives me an out of body experience unlike any other

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Originally posted by Clovis I don't agree, nor do I think the premise of "very best CD of all times" make much sense.

I asked 800 penguins to name their favorite cd and they all unanimously agreed that northern exposure is without a shadow of doubt the best cd of all times.

It is my favorite Northern Exposure CD but can we please wait at least another couple years before making threads about it again? This topic is about as dead now as "why does trance suck so much?!"

Re: The Very Best CD Of All Times. Folks... it doesn't get any better than this...

Yes it does.

http://www.discogs.com/Sasha-And-Jo...e/release/36165

The 2xcd limited edition.

The second disc is certainly the more influential of the two, I'd say. It predicted every progressive house set of the following six years. Sound System, Heliopolis and Dark Train are also my picks from the whole compilation.

Second disc sounds too straightforward, dare I say too standard in comparison to first one. S&D already did almost the same thing with older (and IMO much better) tracks on their first Renaissance.

With that in mind, disc 1 still today sounds completely otherworldly and different from everything else that have been done when it comes to mixing and especially selection. This ambient breaky optimistic and carefree style intermixed occasionally with dark and mysterious tones (O.B.E., Cascade) all perfectly mixed in a whole was definitely not a common practice with mixed CDs, even after NE popularized that sounds. To be fair, some of the tracks already dated up to 6 years when they appeared on NE, so today the whole disc looks more like a fine mixed compilation of the greatest tracks from the first part of the 90's, but considering the fact that even to more experienced EDM ears most of those tracks were unheard of at that time, we can all agree that S&D did a tremendous job.

for those who want to check it out if they haven't already

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vV-dmAKjaE&fmt=18

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Originally posted by sljiva Second disc sounds too straightforward, dare I say too standard in comparison to first one. S&D already did almost the same thing with older (and IMO much better) tracks on their first Renaissance.

I'd love to hear exactly how any of the discs on the first Renaissance "did almost the same thing" as the second disc of NE. I find that a baffling comparison.

The second disc sounds straightforward now, only because it laid the blueprint for every Global Underground and Masters Series disc that followed.

Straightforward and similar to Renaissance as in bunch of relatively fresh dance tunes (that in the meantime became semi-classics) compiled together for a nothing more than a good dancefloor entertainment.

Disc 1 sounds deeper, more intriguing, more varied and like they generally spent more working on it.

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Originally posted by sljiva Straightforward and similar to Renaissance as in bunch of relatively fresh dance tunes (that in the meantime became semi-classics) compiled together for a nothing more than a good dancefloor entertainment. Disc 1 sounds deeper, more intriguing, more varied and like they generally spent more working on it.

The Renaissance mix was a summary of the biggest tracks from that club spanning from 1992-1994. NE CD2 was pretty much the opposite: a completely new direction for S&D that they would later go on to immortalise at Twilo.

I dispute the notion that the tracks on the second disc were just "relatively fresh". Many of them are from 1993 and 1994 and didn't fit into the Renaissance aesthetic S&D would have been playing in those years. The second disc is just as much a collection of older material to form something new as the first. Especially when you compare it to their sets from 1995 - it's a complete shift in sound.

I don't agree that most of the tracks on the first disc were "unheard of" before they featured on NE. The Orb, The FSOL, YAP, Guerilla, Banco De Gaia... all known names, even at the time.

I also think that the second disc is much deeper and more subtle than the first. The first disc is very "songy": despite the sterile Protools mixing and editing, it does feel like a collection of tracks glued together rather than a unified set. You've also got quite a few poppy vocals and accessible, almost New Age melodies. I can imagine my mother enjoying it. The second disc completely went against the hands-in-the-air progressive sound they'd been playing up until then. There's little in the way of accessible melodies, and the individual tracks are mixed unbelievably tightly. It all becomes one fluid 75 minute piece of music.

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J ...it does feel like a collection of tracks glued together rather than a unified set.

Cd 1 is a perfect example of a set where the whole becomes greater than the sum of its parts To say that it is ''just a collection of tracks'' patched together hot mix style would be grossly inaccurate. Don't even go there. By no stress of the english language could this masterpiece ever be called "songy".

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J ...You've also got quite a few poppy vocals and accessible, almost New Age melodies. I can imagine my mother enjoying it.

Oh stop it already! Music is just enjoyment. It isn't something to use to feel better and superior to the others. It isn't something to play and feel smart about how you get this super awesome underground music that is meant for a chosen few. Can't you see the rotten mess this mentality got us in lately? There is a reason why its sold out completely not to be found anywhere new. And that is double disc or Us edition. The reason is because it is good. Really really fucking good. And ''new age'' is not exactly top 40 material but hey you are the music critic I shouldn't be telling you this.

CD 1 will always do it for me, I never really got into the 2nd disc although I can certainly see how it was more influential in a sense of where their sound was going at the time.

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Originally posted by Existo22 Cd 1 is a perfect example of a set where the whole becomes greater than the sum of its parts To say that it is ''just a collection of tracks'' patched together hot mix style would be grossly inaccurate. Don't even go there. By no stress of the english language could this masterpiece ever be called "songy".

Perhaps if you haven't heard the second disc, or don't know the tracks they used. S&D were already doing smoother, more seamless mixing on vinyl by 1996 than all the fancy, Protools edits-and-effects of the first disc. The tracks are clearly delineated from each other, and I'm actually surprised they didn't mix more inventively. They practically let some tracks play out before mixing them.

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Oh stop it already! Music is just enjoyment. It isn't something to use to feel better and superior to the others. It isn't something to play and feel smart about how you get this super awesome underground music that is meant for a chosen few.

I'm disputing the notion that the first disc is "deeper" and the second disc is just good-time party music. You had no fucking problem with the thing being discussed in this way when Sljiva did it, because he praised the disc you love so much. But when I do it, suddenly you take ideological exception? Come off it. Your biases are obvious.

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There is a reason why its sold out completely not to be found anywhere new. And that is double disc or Us edition. The reason is because it is good. Really really fucking good.

It's not to be found new because it's out of print. I could easily argue that if it was so good, it would still be in print today. There are thousands of shitty records out of print, and it doesn't make them any good.

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And ''new age'' is not exactly top 40 material but hey you are the music critic I shouldn't be telling you this.

I presume you haven't looked at Enya's record sales recently. I could go down to the local supermarket and find a shelf of New Age compilations. My mother has a few herself.

Contrary to your fanboy-ish protestations, I'm not really knocking CD 1. I think it's a very good CD, incredibly eclectic with lots of great tracks and still very original. I'm disputing this notion that because the second CD is four-on-the-floor dance music it is somehow shallower, less worthwhile or less important.

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J Perhaps if you haven't heard the second disc, or don't know the tracks they used. S&D were already doing smoother, more seamless mixing on vinyl by 1996 than all the fancy, Protools edits-and-effects of the first disc. The tracks are clearly delineated from each other, and I'm actually surprised they didn't mix more inventively.

More inventinly? They got two different versions of a track fading from one to the other. They got 3 tracks playing at the same time at part? Have you even heard the disk? It doesn't look like we are talking about the same disc.

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J I'm disputing the notion that the first disc is "deeper" and the second disc is just good-time party music.

Never said that but remember you are the one who brought the second disc into the conversation, unfortunately, most like due to clearance issues the second disc was never realeased in my country! I will try to find it and give it a listen

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J It's not to be found new because it's out of print. I could easily argue that if it was so good, it would still be in print today.

Stop! Just stop!

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J . Contrary to your fanboy-ish protestations, I'm not really knocking CD 1.

Yes you were...

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J I think it's a very good CD, incredibly eclectic with lots of great tracks and still very original.

Now you are starting to make some sense.

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J I'm disputing this notion that because the second CD is four-on-the-floor dance music it is somehow shallower, less worthwhile or less important.

Well I didn't get a chance to hear the second disk. It is probably really good too. As far as comparing the two It doesn't really matter. Northern exposure is a masterpiece.

Good god is this person for real?

Out of curiosity, what do you believe is the best of the NE albums?

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Originally posted by Lews Out of curiosity, what do you believe is the best of the NE albums?

Get a taste of this.



http://www.amazon.com/Northern-Expo...d/dp/B000003SFN

I wasn't talking to you. It's obvious what your choice is. Moron.

Actually, it does get better than that.

DJ Ti�sto - In Search of Sunrise 1 & 2

Probably thee CD's of any trance compilation.

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Originally posted by Lews I wasn't talking to you. It's obvious what your choice is. Moron.

Beware, he might put you on ignore.

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Originally posted by Mr.Mystery Beware, he might put you on ignore.

You already met that horrible fate, correct?

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Originally posted by Mr.Mystery Beware, he might put you on ignore.

Oh, God! The horror!

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Originally posted by Existo22

You do realise it's impossible to read the text. Sometimes I really do overestimate your intellect.

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