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Posted by Existo22 on Oct-26-2009 13:35:

Unhappy

From the guys mentioned I only know union jack and simon & shaker. The rest of these names must be new in the scene.

A lot of record labels I used to buy records haven't put anything out since 2005-2006.
Nobody cares no more. I think the dance scene is gone. Finito La Musica. No money in this shit anymore. Even veterans put out albums and they flop. I guess if we are honest we must admit by now that the digital revolution was a coup.

So tell me...

What are we supposed to do?
After all that we've been through
When everything that felt so right is wrong
Now that the love is gone ?

There is nothing left to prove
No use to deny this simple truth
Can't find the reason to keep holding on
Now that the love is gone, love is gone

Dance Music Is Dead.


David Guetta – Love Is Gone
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Posted by idoru on Oct-26-2009 13:38:

quote:
Originally posted by Existo22
Nobody cares no more. I think the dance scene is gone. Finito La Musica. No money in this shit anymore.


Can somebody please ban this retard?


Posted by _Ocean_Drive_ on Oct-26-2009 13:41:

quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
I think this is a largely futile discussion, because everyone will just nominate from their personal niche, and nobody follows every niche closely enough to make anything like an objective comparison of the nominees.


Great way to find out about 'new' artists, though.


Posted by foothegreat on Oct-26-2009 13:43:

Giuseppe Ottaviani.

Brilliant melodic, uplifting tracks in his new album


Posted by MrJiveBoJingles on Oct-26-2009 13:45:

quote:
Originally posted by Existo22
Dance Music Is Dead.

Quit the whining and nostalgia. I have done way more than enough of it myself for the past few years, as most here know, but when you get tired of what is happening to a kind of music you like, at some point you have to either:

(a) Accept that things have changed and try to find new things that coincide with your taste or...
(b) Accept that the new stuff is just not for you, or at least not exciting enough to keep you optimistic and passionate about it, and move on.

Otherwise you just end up with perpetual bitterness.

Me, I am choosing option (b).


Posted by idoru on Oct-26-2009 13:54:

quote:
Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
Quit the whining and nostalgia. I have done way more than enough of it myself for the past few years, as most here know, but when you get tired of what is happening to a kind of music you like, at some point you have to either:

(a) Accept that things have changed and try to find new things that coincide with your taste or...
(b) Accept that the new stuff is just not for you, or at least not exciting enough to keep you optimistic and passionate about it, and move on.

Otherwise you just end up with perpetual bitterness.

Me, I am choosing option (b).



Posted by Existo22 on Oct-26-2009 13:57:

Sales figures don't lie man. This is scene is a thing of the past. A throwback from the 90's and the early part of this decade when there was actually a record industry and people were making a living out of it.

A lot of record labels I used to buy records from haven't put anything out since 2005-2006.
Nobody cares no more. The dance scene is gone. Finito La Musica. No money in this shit anymore. Even veterans put out albums and they flop. I guess if we are honest we must admit by now that the digital revolution was a coup.


This is from John 00 fleming blog.
If you don't know who that is you must be really new to this scene and I am sorry to tell you... you are late for the party...

So what�s happened to the up-beat Fleming blogs of recent? �He always seems to be moaning about something and bleeding his heart out� I hear you all say. That�s probably because the usual happy-go lucky John Fleming has been in a very sad place. Music has a very special place in my heart. It�s been a healer for me while in hospital. It was the stimulus to get my life back together after recovering from cancer. All aspects of my wonderful life, music plays a big part in this. So now you see why I�m so passionate about it. You�ve heard me repeatedly moan about the state of the current dance world, and I don�t see things changing. What has happened to the club scene around me that I dearly loved? Not so long ago the UK was at the forefront of the Worlds Electronic dance music scene, we where proud to have the rest of the Worlds eyes watching us as we lead the way. All the major cities had multiple nights running every weekend specializing in all types of electronic dance music for open-minded clubbers. Today we only have one Club (Ministry of Sound) that can sustain a weekly event and I see many territories around the World heading this way too.

I dearly miss those nights where I could express myself musically and simply be able do a true job of a DJ and use my music as a tool to control the dancefloor. This used to be the reason why clubs where packed, as these specialist/underground clubs offered fresh approach to music, as opposed to the commercial clubs where DJ�s played anthem after anthem. Back then there was a clear divide. In today�s World a new breed of DJ has been born, that seeks fame and glory that has crossed into the specialist club market. This is something that the new generation of clubbers only know and understand. I have nothing against these guys, as many are my close friends, we all have goals in our careers and admire how well they have done. But it�s worrying watching the whole scene move forward with blinkers on and not acknowledging the history of electronic dance music scene and how it works. Without underground/specialist clubs we don�t have a place for new music/producers/DJ�s to be born, hence why things have gone very generic.

I too would call myself a moaning old fart if I were the only one worrying about the scene. Recent conversations with fellow friends; John Digweed, Nick Warren, Christopher Lawrence and more, we all share the same pain. This is the reason I�ve felt so low recently. In fact at one point the thought of giving it all up even crossed my mind as it was hurting me so much. I�d never ever thought this in my whole career. The last six months has been a pretty tough time for me inside my head. It�s getting increasingly harder for me to source specialist music and clubs. I�m watching my favourite producers give up because they�ve lost their faith in the scene, they refuse to head down the commercial route so would rather throw in the towel. I�m watching all of the malicious marketing tactics from the commercial World come into my World, and I refuse to stoop that low to play their games. This was the point that hurt me the most. So I�m now faced with some difficult decisions in this new world of electronic dance music. Do I take a crash course at a circus so I can jump around on stage to entertain the crowd? Do I hire out a fancy dress outfit to impress the crowd? No thanks to both of them!! I felt like I reached a dead end��then something amazing happened. My next Ministry of Sound album project involves me looking back at some older music. I initially spent a couple of hours in my garage going through some old vinyl. This was supposed to be a mornings worth of work, but something magical happened over the next FIVE days while listening to loads of old tracks. I fell in love with music again. These older tracks where made at a time when producers made music for the actual dance floor, instead of radio and fame n glory in today�s world. The difference is like black and white. It was like being reborn and taken back to the basics of why music works to likeminded clubbers. If you understand cars, then you appreciate every aspect of it while driving. If you don�t; you get drawn into the manufactures eye candy that�s easy for the brain to absorb. The same can be said for music. A room full of clubbers who understand and appreciate music will be taken on the magical journey the music and DJ provides; whilst others simply want those candy moments and wont understand what�s going on. They want a commercial club approach with an entertaining DJ offering a visual form of entertainment, so it�s obvious that these two forever clash in today�s club land.

Whilst looking at my wall of vinyl I realised I was looking at 20 years + of musical history and it struck me this is not the first time this has happened in clubland. The commercial World always follows what happens in the Underground World, and then evolution takes over as the scene goes through a new cycle as things head back underground again. I then realized this evolution is beginning to happen again and there is light somewhere at the end of the tunnel. This process has taken a little longer than the previous ones in history but there are many new promoters starting to move things forward. I remember in the past going through these new cycles, it�s so exciting finding new music and producers with a fresh take on the scene who actively want to move things forward. Going through my old tracks reminded me of those very moments. So I�m only human, and have down periods too. But now I�m ready for the new period in electronic dance music and yet again its music that is healing me. Motivation to get in the studio has been at an all time high, simply wanting to make twisted music for the dance floor, my goal is now clear!


Posted by travis75 on Oct-26-2009 14:47:

dance music is not dead...ask ricardo villalobos.

i think music evolves, so does an industry, trends come and go

but people will always buy the music they love.

don't believe the hype. dance music is alive and well.


Posted by Demoted on Oct-26-2009 14:48:

I bet you pee stardust. Predominantly in the morning.


Posted by travis75 on Oct-26-2009 14:49:

only after an enema


Posted by SYSTEM-J on Oct-26-2009 15:26:

J00F talks some shite, doesn't he?


Posted by Frenkieee on Oct-26-2009 15:36:

Danny Howells

A lot of you probably beg to differ, but I'd say the man has released some very solid productions from scratch, seeing he didn't do any production work before. Everything's Here, Gvibe, September, Right Off, The Shining, In Black, On The Moon, Brakes, Laid Out, all are quality tracks. Some or better than the others, but nearly all were worth picking up.


Posted by woscar on Oct-26-2009 16:46:

quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
J00F talks some shite, doesn't he?


And he's never heard of fabric, apparently.


Posted by idoru on Oct-26-2009 16:54:

quote:
Originally posted by woscar
And he's never heard of fabric, apparently.


Berghain, Harry Klein, etc.

The guy is a pompous ass.


Posted by SYSTEM-J on Oct-26-2009 17:06:

Are we misinterpreting that, or does he really think the whole UK has one nightclub that runs weekly, and it's the Ministry Of Sound? In a blog where he moans about the demise of the underground and rampant commercialism, no less?


Posted by Demoted on Oct-26-2009 17:09:

quote:
Originally posted by idoru
Berghain, Harry Klein, etc.

The guy is a pompous ass.


Berghain isn't in the UK, which is who he was specifying I believe.


Posted by idoru on Oct-26-2009 17:35:

quote:
Originally posted by Demoted
Berghain isn't in the UK, which is who he was specifying I believe.


This is true, however what I took away from the article is that he's bitching about both the UK and everything else in general. *shrug*


Posted by dynomite8 on Oct-26-2009 17:38:

jamie jones
tensnake


Posted by DJ_Lord on Oct-26-2009 18:06:

quote:
Originally posted by Clovis
Matias Aguayo


Can't wait for his album! When is it due?


Posted by Clovis on Oct-26-2009 18:09:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ_Lord
Can't wait for his album! When is it due?


I don't remember the exact date but I believe it is at the end of this month or early November.


Posted by enydo on Oct-26-2009 18:10:

quote:
Originally posted by woscar
And he's never heard of fabric, apparently.


Dude, I bet he doesn't even know what Wolf + Lamb is! lol!!


Posted by travis75 on Oct-26-2009 18:12:

deadmau5
tiesto
kid cudi


Posted by stealthman on Oct-26-2009 18:23:

Your mum.


Posted by woscar on Oct-26-2009 18:24:

quote:
Originally posted by enydo
Dude, I bet he doesn't even know what Wolf + Lamb is! lol!!





And Matias Aguayo's album comes out tomorrow

http://www.junodownload.com/products/1480375-02.htm


Posted by wotyzoid on Oct-26-2009 18:48:

I'd say it's Wolf + Lamb year, individually and collaboratively, with Seth coming up right behind. Some other guys that deserve attention IMHO:

Anton Zap
Lerosa
Luke Hess
Tony Lionni
Above Smoke
The Rurals
Matt Dear
Jus Ed
Jamie Jones
Lee Curtiss
Manuel Tur
MCDE
...


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