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Posted by culorut on Nov-04-2009 15:40:

quote:
Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
hahaha. oh, youre missed around here mate

but what are ASIO going to do if they found some references to personal use in my hotmail account? i dunno, cant imagine them whisking me off the street in a black van because i enjoy the occasional joint


If you made a reference to pot smoking even just for personal use they can come after you under suspicion. I mean if you are smoking marijuana you either bought it from someone (dealer) or you are the dealer/grower.


Posted by culorut on Nov-04-2009 15:50:

quote:
Originally posted by Krypton
I won't say they are systematically searching innocent people's private internet communication until I have absolute evidence to say so.




Sorry but you are really blind on this one.

This is like digging through crate's of records to find that one tune. You will listen to a thousand garbage songs before you find the one gem but the fact still is you had to listen or read thousands before you found what you really wanted.


Posted by Krypton on Nov-04-2009 16:24:

quote:
Originally posted by culorut


Sorry but you are really blind on this one.

This is like digging through crate's of records to find that one tune. You will listen to a thousand garbage songs before you find the one gem but the fact still is you had to listen or read thousands before you found what you really wanted.


Ah of course, you are the enlightened one. If only Buddha knew of you. I don't base my world view on inferences and leaps to conclusion without the evidence to back it up. If the government is systematically trolling innocent people's private data, then back it the fuck up. When the government fucks up, we sue them in court. With 99% of the crap you bring to the table, a self-professed serial killer wouldn't be convicted. Your persecutory skills = FAIL.


Posted by Comrade Stalin on Nov-04-2009 23:49:

Re: Feds Can Search Your E-Mail Without Notice

quote:
Originally posted by culorut


Aren't you supposed to be in a FEMA concentration camp?


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Nov-05-2009 00:12:

quote:
Originally posted by culorut
If you made a reference to pot smoking even just for personal use they can come after you under suspicion. I mean if you are smoking marijuana you either bought it from someone (dealer) or you are the dealer/grower.


i care as much about ASIO looking thru my email as ASIO care about my pot smoking.


Posted by Lebezniatnikov on Nov-05-2009 01:32:

Re: Re: Feds Can Search Your E-Mail Without Notice

quote:
Originally posted by Comrade Stalin
Aren't you supposed to be in a FEMA concentration camp?


Like I said, we have a thick dossier.


Posted by culorut on Nov-05-2009 19:33:

quote:
Originally posted by Krypton
Ah of course, you are the enlightened one. If only Buddha knew of you. I don't base my world view on inferences and leaps to conclusion without the evidence to back it up. If the government is systematically trolling innocent people's private data, then back it the fuck up. When the government fucks up, we sue them in court. With 99% of the crap you bring to the table, a self-professed serial killer wouldn't be convicted. Your persecutory skills = FAIL.


Are you fuckin retarded or what? They have already illegally tapped into innocent peoples information years ago. What exactly don't you understand about there being no privacy?

Fuckin ignorant kunt.


Posted by culorut on Nov-05-2009 19:34:

Spy Agency Mined Vast Data Trove, Officials Report


The National Security Agency has traced and analyzed large volumes of telephone and Internet communications flowing into and out of the United States as part of the eavesdropping program that President Bush approved after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks to hunt for evidence of terrorist activity, according to current and former government officials.

The volume of information harvested from telecommunication data and voice networks, without court-approved warrants, is much larger than the White House has acknowledged, the officials said. It was collected by tapping directly into some of the American telecommunication system's main arteries, they said.

As part of the program approved by President Bush for domestic surveillance without warrants, the N.S.A. has gained the cooperation of American telecommunications companies to obtain backdoor access to streams of domestic and international communications, the officials said.

The government's collection and analysis of phone and Internet traffic have raised questions among some law enforcement and judicial officials familiar with the program. One issue of concern to the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court, which has reviewed some separate warrant applications growing out of the N.S.A.'s surveillance program, is whether the court has legal authority over calls outside the United States that happen to pass through American-based telephonic "switches," according to officials familiar with the matter.

"There was a lot of discussion about the switches" in conversations with the court, a Justice Department official said, referring to the gateways through which much of the communications traffic flows. "You're talking about access to such a vast amount of communications, and the question was, How do you minimize something that's on a switch that's carrying such large volumes of traffic? The court was very, very concerned about that."

Since the disclosure last week of the N.S.A.'s domestic surveillance program, President Bush and his senior aides have stressed that his executive order allowing eavesdropping without warrants was limited to the monitoring of international phone and e-mail communications involving people with known links to Al Qaeda.

What has not been publicly acknowledged is that N.S.A. technicians, besides actually eavesdropping on specific conversations, have combed through large volumes of phone and Internet traffic in search of patterns that might point to terrorism suspects. Some officials describe the program as a large data-mining operation.

The current and former government officials who discussed the program were granted anonymity because it remains classified.

Bush administration officials declined to comment on Friday on the technical aspects of the operation and the N.S.A.'s use of broad searches to look for clues on terrorists. Because the program is highly classified, many details of how the N.S.A. is conducting it remain unknown, and members of Congress who have pressed for a full Congressional inquiry say they are eager to learn more about the program's operational details, as well as its legality.

Officials in the government and the telecommunications industry who have knowledge of parts of the program say the N.S.A. has sought to analyze communications patterns to glean clues from details like who is calling whom, how long a phone call lasts and what time of day it is made, and the origins and destinations of phone calls and e-mail messages. Calls to and from Afghanistan, for instance, are known to have been of particular interest to the N.S.A. since the Sept. 11 attacks, the officials said.

This so-called "pattern analysis" on calls within the United States would, in many circumstances, require a court warrant if the government wanted to trace who calls whom.

The use of similar data-mining operations by the Bush administration in other contexts has raised strong objections, most notably in connection with the Total Information Awareness system, developed by the Pentagon for tracking terror suspects, and the Department of Homeland Security's Capps program for screening airline passengers. Both programs were ultimately scrapped after public outcries over possible threats to privacy and civil liberties.


http://www.nytimes.com/2005/12/24/politics/24spy.html?_r=1


Posted by culorut on Nov-05-2009 19:43:

Re: Re: Feds Can Search Your E-Mail Without Notice

quote:
Originally posted by Comrade Stalin
Aren't you supposed to be in a FEMA concentration camp?


Nope I do not live anywhere remotely close to the USA and I intend on keeping it that way.

I hear PKC is heading there though for blabbing off in his emails about his pot addiction. What an idiot.


Posted by Moongoose on Nov-05-2009 20:16:

No he isnt. Im working for the upcomming NWO and because i like him i managed to swing it that he can do all the pot he wants and vewer get in trouble for it. Of course working for the NWO I am quite evil so to balance it out he isnt allowed to play anything but JRPGs for the rest of his life (now thats evil!). But hell be so stoned all the time that he probably wont mind anyway.


Posted by Krypton on Nov-05-2009 21:33:

quote:
Originally posted by culorut
Are you fuckin retarded or what? They have already illegally tapped into innocent peoples information years ago. What exactly don't you understand about there being no privacy?


It's no longer warrantless. Something called the FISA Court oversees surveillance warrants from Federal agencies. You didn't have privacy ever since you were born. Multiple entities, government and commercial, maintain databases with all your information on it. Privacy? The only way to really have privacy is to build a bunker in the wilderness and cut yourself off from the world. Have you done that yet? If you told me the sky was blue, I wouldn't believe it. Idiot...


Posted by Comrade Stalin on Nov-05-2009 21:44:

Re: Re: Re: Feds Can Search Your E-Mail Without Notice

quote:
Originally posted by culorut
Nope I do not live anywhere remotely close to the USA and I intend on keeping it that way.

I hear PKC is heading there though for blabbing off in his emails about his pot addiction. What an idiot.


Too bad FEMA aren't as effective as my NKVD. I would have offed you a long time ago. You'r just too dangerous to state security. You know too much.

Pot is used by the state to keep the people in control. I thought you would have known that.


Posted by Darkarbiter on Nov-06-2009 05:39:

quote:
Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
hahaha. oh, youre missed around here mate

but what are ASIO going to do if they found some references to personal use in my hotmail account? i dunno, cant imagine them whisking me off the street in a black van because i enjoy the occasional joint

I wouldn't be suprised if they did shit like that in the U.S. though.
quote:
Originally posted by Comrade Stalin
Pot is used by the state to keep the people in control. I thought you would have known that.


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